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June 2, 2016 at 11:03 am #106314AnonymousGuest
Dear Lada:
Maybe some calming psychiatric drugs can help in the short term, with the fear.
I think working in the factory is not good for you. I also think a plan to move away from your mother is a good plan. As well as good psychotherapy. Like I wrote to you before, however badly you feel, there is a way back to being you. Not right now and no way to rush it.
There is a way back for Lada and I am excited for her, thinking about the day she comes back.
anita
June 4, 2016 at 4:07 am #106460AnonymousInactiveAnita, I don’t feel comfortable writing here anymore, but I don’t know how else to contact you. Anyway..
It’s Saturday, I came from work after a night shift and I can’t even describe it..
What I’ve describing from the start is that I had two “visions” how my life was going to be like after I quit. The “your values, habits will change” thing. Two ways, two ways that sent me into the shithole and started “I want to kill myself” thoughts, “there’s no future for me” thoughts.
The first way:
living at home with my mother, being lazy and stupid,unemployable, nasty to my mum, not doing anything, expecting from her to do everything for me. A few moments ago I was looking at my brother and I had no idea what he was saying. NO IDEA. My brain was BLANK. I know I used to be a good “listener” when I was younger, I would look at the people to ensure them that I was listening and maybe I wasn’t actually listening to everything, I just felt obliged to be the listener and not the talker. But now I really couldn’t grasp what he was saying. I feel like saying unnecesarily mean things to everyone at home. When I was walking from a park, I looked at a tree that smelt nice and I asked myself “what kind of tree is it? Is it a pine or.. Don’t think about it, mom will say it for you.”
The second way, equally bad, or maybe worse:
because of laziness – shoplifting, being homeless, burglaries, drugs, threatening, I don’t know what else, I don’t wanna know. These thoughts occured, for example, when I was coming home from the sleepover, when I wasn’t at HOME with my MUM. I would look at homeless people, gipsies, guys smoking marijuanna, knowing, WANTING to end up like that because it meant freedom and who wouldn’t like not paying for anything right? when you can steel it.. I went to a shop that day and my thoughts were literally all about that. I looked into someone else’s cart and instead of just curious “what did they picked, maybe I can get inspired”, I thought “I don’t need this, that I could make use of” and million other thoughts like that. I COULDN!T CONTROL IT.
The weird thing is that when I was at work tonight, I was different. I had called a flat owner before I went to my job and I am supposed to look at a flat on Mondy. I also planned to go to the entrance exam on Monday, just in case, I even studied at work, eventhough I wasn’t 100% convinced that it was for me anymore. I wanted to talk to people, I was nice, we had a lot of fun with my colleague. I also felt good about setting my own bank account recently (my mum was unemployed when I first got a job and she had to pay a debt from her job that was her colleague’s fault so it was nonsense to set up my own account when she had no money. We both used hers with to cards.) On Thursday I set up my own account and felt good today about paying with my own money and being responsible about it. Then I come home and BOOM.
The thing is that I don’t understand where these two “options” come from. The problem is that there aren’t just thoughts, it really feels like behaviours, attitudes, habits, as if it really comes from me. When I ask myself “why would you want to be homeless? why don’t you want to live your life for yourself and be free, by moving out and going back to school, or going abroad and being an au-pair? Where does all of this come from?” I don’t get any answer.
Do you have any idea how these behaaviours and values were created? Where did they come from? I fear the moment I give up on writing here and fighting it, because it hasn’t felt natural for a long time already, as well as going to the psychologist, etc..
June 4, 2016 at 4:20 am #106463AnonymousInactiveI believe that some of it could be manifested fears like the fear of lack of money. I listened to relaxation music two days ago about meeting my fears and my hands were literally twitching when I imagined different fears, like the fear of drowning when I dive deeper into water, fear of trains as I was almost smashed by a train when I was younger, I stupidly, stupidly walked on the rails WITH MY DOGS and had HEADPHONES. Jesus. At one point I turned around and had to jump out of the way because of the train behind me. Fear of aging, diseases, blood, needles, death, don’t know what else.. (when I felt really down and thought of the “ways” I could end it, there was drowning, train, etc. maybe it has something to do with it. I’ve been supressing my fears a lot the past years, trying to look strong and have everything together.)
You know, my friend who reads this told me that if somebody else read it I would have been sent to psychiatry already and I agree, haha. It looks horrible. That’s why I’m still here, trying to understand it and take control over my own life, behaviours and thoughts, but..
June 4, 2016 at 4:24 am #106465AnonymousInactiveIf you are still willing, can we talk somewhere else? I’m really not comfortable with this and would like to delete the whole conversation.
June 4, 2016 at 4:45 am #106466AnonymousInactiveAbout the “second option”.
I remember viewing my family as poor when I was little. Or perceiving my family as poor. Once I stole two chocolate bars because I know mom wouldn’t buy them for me because they were more expensive and she wouldn’t buy them for me. She caught me and I think she made me go back and return it, I’m not sure anymore. I remember looking into windows of houses, envying what it looked like, envying the whole houses, cars, (I didn’t want to steal at, I just felt envy) I thought if we had lived in a better house it would have made me happy because I was not. I think it was because my parents didn’t sign me in for any courses, hobbies. We didn’t go skiing, didn’t play any games, I didn’t really get a chance to be good at something or learn anything. They also didn’t give me any tasks or chores, my mum just waited and if I didn’t wash the dishes when she purposely left it unwashed, she then yelled at me for not doing it. I told her many times to write me a list of chores each day or week and then I would do it but she never did, so I didn’t have to do anything and maybe felt useless and couldn’t prove myself in anything. Now when my “career” is gone, it may be the same.
June 4, 2016 at 4:50 am #106469AnonymousInactiveOh, I’ll keep thinking some more and maybe I’ll figure it out myself 😀
June 4, 2016 at 5:28 am #106471AnonymousInactiveMaybe my “career” where I was chasing the wrong things ended, I just wish I was being introduced to that in a less brutal way. My social-working job is supposed to start next week, I’ve been freaking about it. I don’t know whether to believe the psychic or not, but she told me that I should try working with kids and diferrent part-time jobs and asked me I didn’t want to have a go at attending school for social workers. I remember my friend telling me in December “and don’t you want to start going to one more school? so that English is not all you have” and I was like “Are you kidding me, I’m depressed enough, let alone study two schools.”
June 4, 2016 at 5:56 am #106473AnonymousInactiveI’ve been mowing the lawn and I calmed down, haha. It’s silly but I’ll believe the psychic, she also told me that I’m not materialistic like my mother and that I should find a modest, fain boyfriend. I also had the feeling that I don’t want to move in by myself. Maybe I’ve underestimated stopping going to the factory job, I could have been learning about psychology instead of going to a psychologist haha.
School for social-workers was my first choice at high school, I eventually decided differently, but I still was more intersted in courses of public relations and management and marketing than in English. I always cried during Home Makeover tv series. Maybe raising funds? Getting money for those who need them? Gosh, my mind.. 🙂
Why do I have the need to write you everything? 😀 I didn’t want you to be terrified but these tantrums are not necessary haha. I hope I’ll be okay, I’m not going to the factory job anymore. But I have the feeling that maybe I should have been studying for different entrance exam..
June 4, 2016 at 6:06 am #106476AnonymousInactiveI just found out that a university in a neighbourhood city offers bachelor and master’s degree in English in relation to social work. But it’s closed. Maybe next year.. :/
June 4, 2016 at 6:13 am #106480AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
You wrote above: “You know, my friend who reads this told me that if somebody else read it I would have been sent to psychiatry already and I agree, haha. It looks horrible.” I disagree. It is okay for you to post here. Nothing you posted so far on your thread is unacceptable or horrible. Everything you posted is acceptable and fine. There is nothing wrong with you, Lada. You are human and everything you posted, every word, every sentence is part of the human experience that every human shares.
You are not weird or stranger or unacceptable. You are a young woman that indeed needs help. Just as I needed all these years and wish I had. I finally got help at 50 years old. I hope you get it much sooner.
There is no shame in needing help. You were hurt, injured, significantly and for a long time as a child, a … perfect victim. Just like me.
This forum of course is not a professional setting. I am not a doctor of any kind or a psychotherapist. This is a public forum where anyone can register and comment. This is an almost random cross section of the world, people from all over the world are here, reading these words, posting. And so you are here. You belong here. You are one of us, one of us, humans.
I will write more next post.
anita
June 4, 2016 at 6:25 am #106481AnonymousGuestDear lada:
you asked your mother for a list of chores because you wanted to do the right thing, to do the chores you were supposed to do. You just needed to know what they were. You were all eager to please, eager to follow the rules, eager to fit in.
Unfortunately she did not provide you with a list or with the rules. Instead it was chanos for you: she yelled at you when you didn’t expect it, and couldn’t prevent it: there were no rules, only your mother’s unpredictable temper at anything at all. She disapproved of you a whole lot, gave you the message that you were wrong, did wrong AND provided you with no way of doing what is right. So you finally gave up and a big part of you is saying: what’s the point of trying? I can’t win. No matter how hard I tried to do the right things, I failed. So why not be like a homeless. Why not steal? Why even think? And why not walk on the train trails with headphones on?
This part of you makes sense in the context where it developed: the almost impossible situation at this place that should have been a safe home for you, a place of logic, rules, empathy, comfort.
You need to not live at “home” anymore. I am not recommending you live as a homeless, but being homeless is not necessarily better than you living at “home.” I strongly believe your hope for healing is moving out of your mother’s place and making your own life away, far, far away from her and her crazy-making treatment of you.
You will still need to heal away from her, but being away from her will be the beginning of your healing. Healing is possible for you as there is nothing, absolutely nothing inherently wrong with you, with your thinking and feeling. Your distress and dysfuction are results of injuries done to you by an abusive mother. Get away from her and heal.
Please do post here anytime.
anita
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