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  • #98863
    dreaming715
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    Last night I went out for a friend’s bachelorette party. I had just gotten my hair done, I did my nails, and spent more time than usual doing my make-up before going out. I wore a nice dress, which several friends complimented me on. I paired it with black nylons and short heels to keep it classy. In the past I’ve been told I’m attractive and was genuinely happy with how I looked yesterday.

    While we were out at various bars for the bachelorette party, I noticed the other girls in our group were getting approached by guys. They were being asked to dance, a few asked for their numbers, or they just generally chatted with or complimented them.

    I wasn’t approached by a single guy all night. I attempted to at least make eye contact with a few. I also tried to make sure I was smiling and I wasn’t sitting with my arms crossed. By the end of the night I felt completely invisible compared to these other girls.

    I know guys (and people in general) pick up on the energy you’re giving off. Honestly, maybe they could sense that I was sad. I was broken up with last month by someone who I cared for dearly.

    As someone who appreciates human interaction, socializing, (and hey, who doesn’t enjoy a compliment from the opposite sex every now and then?)… I felt very down on myself and actually cried when I got home. I just felt like the evening reinforced a notion of “you’re not valuable, you’re not going to meet someone who is excited about you, you’re not good enough, you’re not desirable, etc…”

    A break-up and a lonely night out have left me discouraged that I’ll find a long, loving, and meaningful relationship. How can I change my perspective on dating or reach some sort of acceptance or peace?

    #98867
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear dreaming715:

    It is possible, i am thinking, that the guys in the bars approached the other girls in the group and not you because they sensed the other girls were more likely to welcome their approach than you. Nothing more or less than that.

    The guys just wanted good results for their efforts, to get Yes, for a dance, a may-I-get-to-know-you and such.

    If you attended a professional competition for the best dressed, make up, you may have won the competition as number one. But you attended instead an event where a bunch of guys want a Yes from a girl when approaching her.

    Even though you didn’t cross your arms, smiled and tried to make eye contact, maybe your smile didn’t seem genuine or convincing to the guys (the energy they picked up, as you suggested).

    The fact that you were not approached has no relevance whatsoever to your worth or attractiveness, I strongly believe. It only means… they believed they had a better chance with the others.

    anita

    #98870
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Dreaming,

    It has nothing to do with your beauty. Maybe it didn’t work out with men approaching you because it would have turned out that it would have annoyed you all night and distracted you from spending time with the friends you were with. I wouldn’t let what happened that night, base your worth and beauty. Especially since you were with a group of people.

    Namaste-

    M.

    #98887
    sandstorm
    Participant

    Hey dreaming,
    something in life you don’t have control i believe dating is one of them .
    you shouldn’t put your self down . may be looking for someone in bar is not right place for you to find special one in your life.
    may be something else is written in your destiny . some place else . u should keep patience . stand strong and wait for right person to hit on . spending quality time with right one is way more better than spending tones of time with someone who isn’t good fit for you .
    just be natural be yourself talk to people as much you can . you never know when everything will change just in heartbeat.
    don’t overthink its just kills happiness. don’t take dating too seriously it just part of life not life

    and guess what u look gorgeous i can feel it

    #98925
    Shae03
    Participant

    Hi Dreaming,
    I can really relate to how you are feeling about this, but as a guy. Last year I was suddenly single and when going out with my friends, seeing the attention they received from from girls out it also made me wonder what was wrong with me.
    Honestly, all I can tell you is to just stick it out. It takes a while for you to find your feet again in social situations like that, and once you are truly comfortable with being single and not overthinking thats when your confidence will attract guys.
    In the meantime, have you thought about trying apps like Tinder? Even if you’re not interesting in meeting anybody that way, I found its a good way for you to practice building that confidence back up.

    #98930
    Matty
    Participant

    G’day Dreaming,

    I paired it with black nylons and short heels to keep it classy. In the past I’ve been told I’m attractive and was genuinely happy with how I looked yesterday.

    vs.

    By the end of the night I felt completely invisible compared to these other girls.

    So let’s deal with the pink elephant in the room. Firstly, how you feel about yourself doesn’t need to be validated by other people. We require validation much of the time because we feel that we are wrong, making a mistake, that we are SOMETHING rather than something else. So if you felt good about yourself, then being approached by a bunch of fellas who noticed it was a bachelorette party wouldn’t be a big deal. And this is the main point, it was a bachelorette party. Even though i’m not the most observant guy, i would notice that in a bar/ pub etc. Such parties are attended by…only women, only women who are having fun or want more fun. When a woman is relaxed, guys be like “okay, now it is time” 😉 The fact that guys went up in packs to other females has less to do with attraction and emotional vibes than what seems apparent. Yes picking up on a girl that is smiling and laughing etc may be one way to check a girl out. BUT not all guys at a pub/ bar wherever what to go up and compliment a woman, maybe they just want a drink. Actually, it’s not so much ‘pretty’ women that get hit on, it’s the ones guys think they may have a shot with. Maybe the guys that were there were shy and didn’t want to come across. You know, you could go up and hit on a guy and compliment him 😉 . Also just because some guy got a phone number, doesn’t mean he is going to call. Sometimes, guys just like the chase, like knowing that they have the ‘balls’ to approach a woman and get her number.

    I just felt like the evening reinforced a notion of “you’re not valuable, you’re not going to meet someone who is excited about you, you’re not good enough, you’re not desirable, etc…”

    Well this is a mindset, no one said that to you, only you are thinking this. You should value yourself first, you should see yourself as having a ‘use’ rather than seeing yourself as a ‘use’ for someone else. So try not to think in singular equations:
    Because no guy approached me = not attractive. Such equations are useless, you are basically asserting that your self worth is based on others ‘outer’ impression of your physic. This doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship with yourself. I think it has to do with the break-up, since you have lost a part of your identity you want someone to bounce off with so that you are re-defined as ‘something’, because in your mind you are ‘nothing’. It is true that our identity is shaped by our surroundings, by the people we call friends, how we are addressed by others, who we are to others. If we have no meaningful connection with others or communities…then who are we? I want you to try to understand who you are in relation to yourself. Who is Dreaming? If i take her friends, her colleagues, people who just know her, who are you? What does ‘Dreaming’ mean to me? Ultimately, you will discover you are someone, it may be personality traits (eg reflective and deep), it may be hobbies (eg you’re a ‘trekkie’ , an expert on Klingon!! 😉 , an animal lover etc. These kinds of things….you own. Find out what you own, Dreaming.

    How can I change my perspective on dating or reach some sort of acceptance or peace?

    Finally, i don’t think you have to accept the terms of modern day dating on it’s ‘socially understood terms’. What dating means to some people means something different to others. So you should come up with your own definition. To me, going on a date = meeting in a casual place where you pretend not to ask 20 questions interview style, but ultimately do 🙂 So it’s not crucial to change your perspective, it’s more beneficial to at least have a perspective. If you don’t get asked out, there could be hundreds of reasons why a guy wouldn’t ask you (many of which may not have anything to do with you). Why not ask him? why not ask out a guy? What you would be feeling, is exactly what a lot of guys feel 🙂 Use online dating apps. Nowadays, you can find love/ companionship anywhere.

    Look it’s great to be complimented, but don’t let they be your everything, you should re-affirm to yourself how beautiful you are, how classy you looked that night etc. Don’t get into the habit of viewing yourself through the lenses of others….that can never end well. Compliment yourself everyday instead, trust me, you know yourself better than anyone else.

    Best of luck, and if you have more to say or what to question something i wrote, please post again.
    Sincerely,
    Matty

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