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April 12, 2018 at 8:09 am #201983Grey HeronParticipant
I want to start a family, but my partner is unsure if he does. We are both turning 35 this year, and I am struggling to know what the right/healthy choice is for me. Has anyone else left an otherwise happy relationship because of wanting (or not wanting) children?
Background: We have been together for five years, living together for four years. We got engaged a few years ago, but have yet to set a wedding date because we were putting our money into the house purchase. Now we have our house (over a year ago), I feel ready to start a family. We discussed having kids after only being together a few months. I said I knew I wanted them ‘one day’ and he said he thought *maybe* ‘one day’ too. That felt fine to me at the time; I wasn’t ready and he wasn’t ready. I had just left a two year relationship with a man with two kids from a previous relationship, when I met my current partner. The previous relationship ended badly when I discovered he had been cheating on me for a few weeks with another woman (while I looked after his small children). He told me, as we were breaking up, that he never wanted to get married again or have more kids and he was ‘setting me free’ (not what I wanted to hear at the time when my dad had just died and I was about to turn 30. I was starting to think about my own mortality). Anyway, within the year he was married the to the ‘other’ woman and with a new baby on the way. So what that ended up meaning was that he didn’t want kids with ME. It was painful. So the reason I mention that previous relationship is that I am worried I have found another man who perhaps would like kids but may be not with me? That old painful feel has surfaced again. Except this time, I am 5 years older and the biological clock has started ticking.
I love this man very much. He is committed to me, so I can see this is different from my previous relationship. He talks about getting us getting married regularly. He never mentions kids though. I bring up having kids every few months. I say it’s important to me and I want him to give it some serious thought. This didn’t seem to be getting us anywhere though and so back in January I asked him to give me a firm answer, Yes or No, to whether he wanted kids. I asked him to set a deadline for deciding and he said September. So here we are. Four months in and I am twiddling my thumbs waiting for him to decide. He is a master procrastinator with most things and I have often had to push him forward (e.g. 8 months to decide the perfect fridge for our new house). I am happy to be the instigator, implementer and general champion for new adventures that we have together, big and small. But it doesn’t seem right to do this over the idea of starting a family, if he isn’t on board then it doesn’t seem right to drag him along, does it? If I was 25 then I would be happy to wait, but I just feel that I don’t have all the time he might need to decide what he wants with regard to kids.
Can anyone give me some advice on how to help him make a decision without me pressurising him? He tends to get overwhelmed and then stick his head in the sand over big decisions. If he says No in September, then the decision will be mine as to whether I stay or not. However, it seems mad to consider leaving someone I am very happy with to start again from scratch at 35 in the hope I meet someone new who does definitely want kids, who I can build a solid relationship with etc etc. It sort of feels like saying ‘you’re not ready now, so I am going to leave and spend a few more years trying to get to this stage again with someone else who DOES want a family’. Help.
April 12, 2018 at 8:50 am #201993AnonymousGuestDear Grey Heron:
You wrote about the man in your previous relationship: “within the year he was married to the ‘other’ woman and with a new baby on the way. So what that ended up meaning was that he didn’t want kids with ME.”
If his child with his wife was not planned, that would mean that he didn’t want a kid with her either. After all, often people have unplanned children. Can it be that your conclusion (italicized) is not correct?
Regarding your present relationship: did he share with you his thoughts and feelings about having children, for and against the prospect?
I wonder if he shared with you his experience as a child, as this may have relevance to the issue.
anita
April 12, 2018 at 9:11 am #202003Grey HeronParticipantThanks for responding Anita.
Yes, perhaps I did come to the wrong conclusion with regard to my ex. I hadn’t thought of that and it is a very good point.
His main concerns regarding having children seem to be the sleepless nights and a loss of freedom. A lot of our friends who want children have had them now and do seem to relish telling us all the horror stories (and very little of the ‘good’ stuff). This really seems to scare him and I think he just likes things how they are now. He does enjoy being with ‘some’ children, but doesn’t seem to have much tolerance for ones which cry or are high spirited. Neither of us have had a huge amount of contact with children anyway. I am an only child and there aren’t any children in my family or his (we are the youngest generation). However, what I did learn from my last relationship was how unconditionally I could love a child. I feel that if I could love children which aren’t my own, even when they didn’t like me (or rather what I represented as a ‘step parent’), then it must be magnified with my own biological child(ren). I realised I could take both the rough and the smooth. It made me realise that I had the capacity to be a parent. Maybe he doubts this in himself (as I did a few years ago)?
My partner seems to have had a very happy childhood. He is close with all of his family and loves visiting them. He hasn’t mentioned any trauma except from bullying in his mid teens.
April 12, 2018 at 9:55 am #202035AnonymousGuestDear Grey Heron:
You are welcome.
A comment that may not be relevant to you, regarding “I feel that if I could love children which aren’t my own… then it must be magnified with my own biological child(ren)”-
I think that the emotions you will feel for your own children will be magnified, are likely to be more intense. What I learned though, is that more intense emotions doesn’t make a mother a better mother. There may be too much of the mother seeing herself in the child, leading to inaccurate projection.
Regarding your partner, you wrote that “he doesn’t seem to have much tolerance for ones which cry and are high spirited”- that is concerning, as you consider him being the father of your child or children as they will cry and may be high spirited.
Parenting, like you suggested, shouldn’t be forced or pressured. Doesn’t read to me that he is at all interested. He may give in to you in September, not wanting to lose you, or giving in to the pressure (there is some pressure he feels, there is the September deadline), but that would not be a good idea, that he enters parenthood unwilling.
I am wondering, does he ever cry and is he low spirited?
anita
April 13, 2018 at 6:37 am #202213Grey HeronParticipantHi Anita. Thanks again for responding and helping me decipher things.
I understand what you are saying about more intense doesn’t necessarily mean better in the sense of being a mother. I have an intense relationship with my mum and one that I don’t always feel is very healthy. It was only after therapy that I considered being a mother myself.
I think you are right about him not being interested. At least for now, but maybe ever… He cries on occasion, usually if cry or am upset. I don’t really see him cry otherwise. He is low spirited usually when he feels overwhelmed at work and/or tired. I think he might see children as another source of stress which he can’t cope with. He likes to have things a certain way and is quite particular. I can see that maybe children are a scary unknown quantity for him. I don’t think he can see any positives or the point of having children. As you say, there is a September deadline, but maybe I already know the answer…
April 13, 2018 at 7:32 am #202215AnonymousGuestDear Grey Heron:
“maybe I already know the answer”- if the question is “Are you interested in being a parent?”, I think you know the answer (no). If the question is “Will you be a parent OR lose me?”- that answer may be an unknown.
For the best interest of a child, better both parents are able and willing. It is such a heavy duty commitment and it requires so very much to do a responsible job at it, day in and day out, year after year, that better not have a child without a Yes, said with conviction, to the first question.
anita
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