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  • #143981
    Danielle
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    My boyfriend and I have almost been together 2 years. We are both juniors in college now and started dating the summer going into sophomore year. After 5 months of dating, I broke up with my boyfriend for not spending as much time as I wanted with me, I admit pretty stupid. We were working things out for like 3 weeks, when one night we got into a really big fight and I told him he was stupid, gross, etc (I admit I WAS WRONG). The next day after the fight, he came to talk to me and I told him I didn’t want to. SO he ended up going out that night, got drunk, and had sex with someone he had sex with previous to us being together. He never told me this, until this past weekend because he felt that our relationship was at the best place it has ever been and he finally thought I should know. I am so heartbroken and pretty distraught because I can’t believe he lied for so long. He told me he was just scared I was going to leave him and never talk to me again and that he has changed so much and thinks that him going through all of that, has helped him realize how much he loves me. I will admit, that my boyfriend the last couple of months has been everything I’ve ever wanted him to be, I can’t name one thing wrong with him except the fact that he lied to my face, which hurts. I know he has changed, and I (and him) are 100% he would never do that again. He tells me its that we were only dating for 5 months and he never thought we were going to be this serious and he just did not care as much as he does now, which is understandable I guess. I love him so much and I am just scared I won’t be over to get over this because I am overthinking too much, or making it seem like he did the worst thing possible. Please help, and give me what you would do in this situation. And maybe GUYS tell me what probably was his perspective on all this? He was 19 when this happened by the way and he had just moved to FSU and just joined a fraternity (which I think was getting to his head lol).

    #143995
    Alex
    Participant

    Quick question for you..were you guys together when he slept with her or were you guys broken up at that point?

    #144015
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    Can you explain to me what did you find out last weekend that you didn’t know last month when you posted your last thread? What is the news, to you?

    Did your boyfriend tell you this last weekend that he had sex with the same woman you mentioned in the last thread, the one he made out with (your words, last thread)?

    Or is it a different woman?

    What exactly did he tell you last weekend?

    anita

    * Soon will be away from the computer for about ten hours.

    #144123
    Barbara
    Participant

    …But weren’t you two broken up when he slept with someone else? That’s what I get from your story. If you were…well, I don’t think it was really and infidelity then. I haven’t read any other of your threads so maybe I’m missing some info but I think…if you two were broken up and it WAS two years ago…maybe just let it go? He’s with you now and he’s not cheating or giving you any reason to think he’s cheating (I assume and hope.)

    I do think you are entitled to your feelings, it’s perfectly understandably to be upset over this. Try to calm down and take a look at what you are actually feeling and why. Are these feelings coming from your own insecurities? Are you just jeleaous? Are you worried he might do it again or actually cheat? Or are you mad he took so long to tell you?

     

    #144495
    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,  you helped me a lot last time so I’m going to answer you first! Sorry it’s been days, I completely forgot I posted on here.

     

    My first initial post was discovering in November because I messaged the girl and my boyfriend finally confessed that they just “made out” the Wednesday after us really really really breaking up. But, since November. Our relationship has been SO different and we’ve been so much better than we have ever been. Last weekend, I asked him like oh are you sure nothing happened with this girl that’s more serious? I always just found it odd that they had sex previously in life multiple times, and that he slept at her house and really didn’t do anything more. He then confessed that they did have sex (Saturday which is the day after we had a really big fight but we were still broken up. *just in case you are confused, I had broken up with him October 17, for two weeks we were separate but trying to see if we could work things out, October 30th we got into a very big argument I said I wanted nothing to do with him etc ignored him when he came and talked to me, and THAT night he admits that he got drunk and that’s when he had sex with this girl) and he knew he had to tell me and was just waiting for the right moment but didn’t want to ruin things now that we have been so great and that he’s proved himself to me that he’s changed so much etc.

     

    so technically of course, I know he didn’t cheat, and I guess I am glad it was the same girl and it was a mistake he said made once etc. but I guess my major issues are that he lied for so long.. as these past 5 months I have really tried to start trusting him. Which it’s weird to explain because I trust him SO MUCH at the current moment I know he would never do anything now he’s such a different man, but I don’t trust what he’s telling me about the past because he’s lied about it for so long. Like what if there were more girls and he’s not telling me because I don’t have the slightest clue? That’s my biggest worry. How do I get over this.

     

    I really don’t want to leave him over how he was 2 years ago, especially since I am so happy with the man he is now and how he treats me. I seriously could see myself marrying him. But how do I move on with the past? How do I accept that was the old immature him? The HIM that wasn’t completely in love with me yet because at the time we had only been dating for 5 MONTHS…. How do I just accept that he handled things differently than I wanted him to at the time but that he wouldn’t handle it the same way now? He’s made it so clear to me that he is so in love with me and has really realized what he wants and how much I mean to him, and his recent actions have really proven that. Just help me move on from the past, I hate that it’s 2017 and I’m stuck dealing with 2015 issues…  issues that only happened 5 months after dating, and technically being broken up…

    #144497
    Danielle
    Participant

    & Barbara. Please read what I just responded to Anita so you can get a clearer picture. I answered much of your questions in that reply 🙂 it would mean the world, thank you. 🙂

    #144523
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    I re-read all your posts in the two threads you started as well as the one comment you posted on another thread. I have some thoughts and questions. This is a heavy duty post you are about to read, if you do. Please do if you are calm enough. If it brings about strong emotions in you, please stop reading at any time and calm yourself (fast walk around the block, hot bath, for example).

    And now, my thoughts and questions, starting with your last sentence: “i hate that it’s 2017 and I’m stuck dealing with 2015 issues”

    I am thinking you are stuck dealing with issues much earlier than 2015, issues in your childhood, before you ever met your boyfriend. Those issues are fueling your current obsession.

    Your writing indicating early life issues fueling current obsession:

    “since I was very young I have been diagnosed with anxiety and (pure) OCD (obsessive thinking)”- what brought about your anxiety at a very young age?

    “he wasn’t making me a priority”- who at a young age didn’t make you a priority?

    “I shut him down and said I wanted nothing to do with him, called him all these names etc….”- who were you angry with at a young age, for not making you a priority, perhaps?

    “He runs to my house immediately after BUT DOES NOT TELL ME.… he lied for a YEAR every time I asked him… now I obsess that everything he is telling me is a lie, or that he has all of these MILLIONS of lies.. THE LYING FOR OVER A YEAR……I find myself being scared that he might be hiding so much more…I guess my major issues are that he lied for so long.”- who lied to you at an early age and on? What were the lies, or was it one big lie?

    “He has proven to me that he really has changed?… Do you think he really is capable of changing?…he has changed so much…obsessed with him reassuring me that he’s changed…he lied to my face, which hurts. I know he has changed…” Who in your childhood did you wish was different, who did you try to change, to make him/ her make you a priority, maybe, love you..?

    You asked: “Do you think what he did is unforgivable?”-

    Clearly, to me, he did nothing wrong to you, two years ago. You verbally abused him, the relationship was terminated, he had sex, at nineteen, with another girl. Clearly, his act does not require your forgiveness. On the other hand someone did something to you (over time, extended), that hurt you very much, when you were a child. What was it?

    anita

     

    #144581
    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    Thank you a lot for your response. I can start off by saying a LOT happened in my younger childhood that I can tell you about and maybe you can connect it to you? But let me start off by saying why I feel like I do. I was single for 18 years, I felt very independent, i always felt that i was very worthy of an amazing perfect guy because I knew a lot of men wanted me (not to be cocky), so this made me someone that wanted really high standards. So when me and my current boyfriend started dating, I had only the highest expectations, so the moment I didn’t think he treated me like a first priority, I wanted out. Idk if I really wanted out, or if I just wanted to show him that if you don’t make me a priority I don’t need you, I can easily leave. With the lying, idk how that relates to childhood lying because when we first got together, I trusted the guy with my entire life. I never questioned him, we lived in different cities and I never once doubted him, but once I caught him in his first lie, all that trust went away. I hate that this happened so long ago, but I guess I’m caught up on it because I recently just really found out what happened and I obsess that there must be SO MUCH more he’s lying about if he was capable of lying about that one incident and he only told me the 1st time because I messaged the girl and the 2nd time because I brought it up. What if there is an incident that I don’t know about and I don’t ask about SO he doesn’t tell me?? That’s my worry. And it’s an everyday worry of mine.

    Now to my childhood, my parents had me very very young at 19. My dad was involved in growing weed, and at the age of 5, he fled the country after breaking his probation. He disappeared from my life on an off for the last 15 years. But…. my mom got remarried when I was 6 and I LOVE my stepdad, HES treated me like his own, has paid for everything for me, adores me to be honest, loves my boyfriend, would do anything for me, he just paid a trip for me to Mexico, he’s been there to back me up and support me through everything. So I wouldn’t say that my biological dad even had a big impact on me… I understand it’s hard to deal with at 5 and it probably was the original cause of my anxiety (but my family has anxiety it’s very genetic SO I wouldn’t blame my anxiety and OCD on anything tragic).

    I have currently been texting my dad, he has a phone in the prison apparently and we’ve been talking a lot and I’ve been giving that relationship a chance to form. For a while, i didn’t talk to him, and I did hold a grudge, but I really at this point in time, don’t think I hold him accountable for anything, it’s not like once he left I had a horrible childhood and didn’t have anything. I honestly have more than what he could’ve ever given me. At a young age I was lied to where my dad was, they told me he was working in Europe in a car business, so I was lied to. But idk… i REALLY don’t know IF that causes anything. I’ve never been someone with trust issues, i trust very easily actually. It’s just one you break it, i can’t believe anything. And it sucks that i can say that i haven’t done anything in our ENTIRE relationship to betray him, so it sucks to FEEL betrayed by him. That’s my big issue, the constant question, “do I deserve someone that was perfect from the beginning?”

    I have noticed that I wasn’t that nice to him, but when I get angry I tend to just say things that I don’t mean and I just wanted to hurt him so show him how mad I was. So when he told me that first girl pop kissed him, I screamed called him stupid gross disgusting an idiot etc… which is so wrong and I have apologized and haven’t done that in a LONG time, and maybe that’s why we’re so happy at the moment?

    #144609
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    Some reality to the situation two years ago: you were broken up, and right before he had sex with the other young woman, you verbally abused him. Really, the fact that he slept with the other woman is his private business (as long as he didn’t get an STD or had her pregnant as a result). Not only was it his business to have sex with her, he didn’t have any obligation to tell you about it.

    Then you asked him multiple times about it, contacted the woman yourself, put the pressure on him.

    Clearly, to me, because of the incongruence with reality, this obsession has its origin prior to you meeting him. Children, when confronted with lots of anxiety, dissociate, separate themselves from the anxiety best they can. Then, as adults, they believe whatever happened in childhood was no-big-deal. But the anxiety that did appear then and then, dissociated, does not disappear. It reappears in context of a different circumstance, like the one with your boyfriend.

    Regarding anxiety being genetic- I say we are all born genetically inclined to be afraid as do other animals. Then things happen and fear becomes excessive.

    Would you like to share about your relationship with your mother? Maybe there is something there… anything relevant?

    anita

    #144615
    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    There was one incident in my life, when I developed I would say my OCD. I watched a film with my mom that really triggered me hard. I wouldn’t say triggered me.. but SCARED the living crap out of me because I feel that I was too young to see that. I really had no idea that people hurt each other in that way, it was a film where a step father was having sex with his daughter. I was TEN years old when I watched that… and really thought the worst thing people could do to each other was physically hit each other, I had no idea sexual abuse was a thing… so it traumatized me and I had to leave the movie. My mom has anxiety, she doesn’t think its a problem, but she CONSTANTLY thinks the worst. So because the movie scared me and I reacted so bad to it.. she thought something had happened to me and would question me and question me constantly asking if I was hiding something and I could tell her anything. And has a 10 year old, that really screwed with my head because I KNEW I wasn’t hiding anything, I knew nothing had happened to me, I know I had never been hurt, but since she kept questioning me, and saw how traumatic that movie was, she didn’t believe me. Until I started to get over it, and just got diagnosed with anxiety when I saw the therapist. Thats when she believed it. This was all tied to my OCD that i didn’t know i had at the time, because i would be tempted to lie and say i was abused, i would be tempted to make up lies, i would rethink my childhood constantly, it drove me crazy. Once I got diagnosed with OCD, everything made sense and I felt confident and still do that nothing happened to me. That I was just too young to watch that film, and I had a step dad myself and it just scared me. But now that I think about it… what my mom did to me, I am doing to my boyfriend. I am making him doubt himself, his morals, his memories, but continually asking him if there is something else, and accusing him of lying to me, exactly what my mom did to me. Crazy how I never connected the two, but you would think that because I knew I wasn’t hiding anything to my mom and I was telling the truth, because Anita i swear I nothing ever happened to me as a child, I would think that he was being honest with me like I was with my mom.

    But after all that happened in the 6th grade, I have had the best life since then I can honestly say. It all started to get like this once I felt betrayed by my boyfriend, even though you are wise and you are telling me that he did not do anything wrong, it still hurts because it was so soon and its scary that he was capable of lying to my face. I am a very honest person, I cannot HIDE anything, it drives me crazy unless I tell the truth. Maybe this developed because of the incident with my mom? Because now I feel like I have to tell her everything lol… everything. If i was drunk, if i tried a drug, if I slept with a boy, if i threw a party while she was out of town, if me and my boyfriend are having a problem… i tell her EVERYTHING. just like I tell my boyfriend EVERYTHING, even things he doesn’t need to hear, like my previous experiences with men etc. But I feel guilty not telling him, I feel guilty not telling him if someone flirted with me, I am a big confessor, and I want him to be like me… but the truth is, many people like keeping things to themselves and I can’t change them.

    Did this help? Do you really think this could be the issue that ties it all together?

    I wish I could say thank you one hundred times for answering me and taking time out of your day to help people with their issues 🙂 great karma is coming your way anita.

    #144637
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    You are welcome and thank you for the good wishes.

    What a powerful share, this last post, powerful. I need to re-read it with what I call a “fresh brain” that I hope to have in the morning. I need to read it attentively and slowly, so will do that in about 12 hours or so. I will probably answer a few other threads before bedtime, but the above, I need to read first thing tomorrow. Will reply then.

    Oh, if you will be checking this before, your mother doubting you, was it only in regard to that movie? Or did she at other times, other topics as well? How else did her anxiety express itself through the years?

    And how is it that she let you, being a child, watch that adult topic (R Rated?)  movie?

    anita

    #144649
    Danielle
    Participant

    Anita,

    No I would say that was when it REALLY triggered me and really effected me the most.

    My mom was a young mom, 19, she thought this movie was going to be Rated R for language….its called Georgia Rule. It had Lindsey Lohan, one of my favorite childhood actresses, and my mom thought it was about a young girl who was a rebellious high school student who gets sent to live with her grandma… which is was about, but she was rebellious because she was being raped. It was so out of the blue I remember that film like yesterday and I was like HOLY COW what??? I was in shock and traumatized. Wonder how my life would be if I never watched that. Would my OCD have developed eventually? I would say that was one of the most self confusing parts of my life, I was so young and did not know anything. I was so innocent minded and that made me learn about the real world, too soon, before I was ready to learn about those things. But yes please answer, I have been waiting for you response hesitant to see what you have to say 🙂 thank you so much and hope to hear from you in the morning.

    #144657
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    Yes, in the morning. Definitely. Till then, be good to you!

    anita

    #144659
    Danielle
    Participant

    I also want to add that I just have a lot of integrity for myself and i never want anyone to think I’m lying. I would be lying right now if I said I didn’t have a doubt that maybe you didn’t believe me, and you’re going to think I’m lying about my childhood. I guess it just stems from my mom not believing me and overanalyzing the situation instead of just believing me and being there for me when I had no idea what anxiety was and why I was having a panic attack, which I didn’t even know what that was until then. That was my first panic attack of my ENTIRE life, until then I was such a happy go free CARE free child. So I just want again to tell you that I am being honest and I am saying this because my OCD has been so good recently especially with that incident, haven’t had anxiety over that in over 5 years, and I don’t want to be triggered again by someone not believing me. But I remember previously you mentioned that you had OCD, so I’m sure you completely understand how OCD manifested itself into that situation and how OCD Is the doubting disease and that’s why I would always doubt myself and if I was forgetting something or lying etc. So please take all this into account when you respond 🙂 I really don’t want to be triggered or doubted again with something like that LOL I would spin all again like OMG did I really act out of the norm that no one believes I was just too young to see that and too much in the girls situation in the film(having a step father that gives me the world) that my young self just FREAKED OUT. And please if you have an idea that you really think this actually has anything to do with why I am doubting my boyfriend when he tells me the truth, etc 🙂 thanks again so much.

    #144715
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Danielle:

    I studied your recent posts attentively and an length.

    First item of importance: I do not doubt that you were not sexually abused by your stepdad (or by anyone else). As I read your recent accounts regarding the movie, I didn’t doubt you at all. Your accounts in the two threads here are congruent with another issue, and NOT with sexual abuse. Your mother’s past suspicions that you were sexually abused were not true, and I am not and will not be entertaining those suspicions. This is a closed issue for me for the rest of my writings to you- you are safe, here, with me, in this regard.

    And now, my analysis, put as simply and as directly as possible: the movie was a turning point in your life, but not because of the topic, but because of your mother’s reaction to your experience watching the movie.

    It is her repeated DOUBTING of you following the movie that injured you and resulted in you DOUBTING yourself to this very day. Her doubting you brought about your self doubt and therefore, your OCD.

    I will write the rest in my next post, shortly. Reason: I want what I wrote so far today to stand out in a shorter post, this one, and not to be lost in a longer post.

    anita

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