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    Annie
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    Hello all,

    I feel like most posts are aimed towards those who are trying to move past events, however, I’m still in a situation that is taking a toll on me. My family is very dysfunctional. It has always been. My mother and siblings were abused both physically and emotionally. I still have a lot of symptoms which feel like PTSD (e.g. jumpy, anxious, re-living trauma). When my sibling was very young, he was abused so badly that blood was shed. I had to PHYSICALLY deal with the blood after seeing him get hurt. The physical abuse ended, but the verbal abuse continues. I live on eggshells to not make my dad angry.

    I moved away to live on my own in college. There, I saw the world and met many wonderful people. I also had two unstable interpersonal relationships. I was manipulative, jealous, and controlling towards my partners. I learned that I was completely attached or detached in relationships, there was no in between. I also seem to attract partners who are emotionally unavailable, lack empathy, and don’t show affection much like my parents. My parents treat others based on their own mood swings. If you please them, then they will remain normal and calm. If you say no, they will begin verbally abusing or act out like a child does and throw out guilt trips. A close friend of mine is also very toxic. We seemed to have bonded on “ego trips”, objectifying other people, and gossip as well as connecting on our broken past.Since I began healing, I have let go of her in order to find myself and become more independent.

    I went through a break up in which my partner was emotionally unavailable and didn’t share anything about himself. I’m beginning to believe there was nothing for him to share. He has a dysfunctional family as well, which left him closed off. In the relationship, we were co-dependents, completely spending all our time together. When the relationship ended, I found myself completely insecure, lacking self-sufficiency/boundaries/self-respect, emotionally dependent on others for validation/ happiness, being the people pleaser, and lacking self confidence.

    I began to meditate and spend time alone. I was getting much better. I came home and got busy, but everything my family does is starting to get to me. It’s always loud because someone is arguing. Nobody can get a long. My mother leaves me to be responsible for everything she needs and won’t ask my brothers to do anything. I was out with my mother completely aloof and she accused me of “attracting men” by being in a romantic mood. What does that even mean? She will accuse me of things like this often and it’s very hurtful to me. There are terrible things that I have done for my mother because I felt so helpless and saying “no” wasn’t an option. One of my siblings is using threats to do something work related which is fraudulent. That is fraud and goes against my values. I told my mother and her way of dealing with it, the non-violent way, was to leave the house. I was forced to spend the day outside so a fight wouldn’t erupt. Eventually, he will return and ask me to do it again. I was just going to tell him I didn’t want to be involved.

    There are only a few weeks until I return to school and then I won’t be coming home for a long time. What can I do to live with this now? Talking to them is not an option. They are very hard headed and will not give another person a chance to speak. Anything I say will be deflected back to me. My academics have suffered, I’m on anti-depressants and in counseling. It’s hard to deal with anything when I can’t escape the situation. I don’t want to play the victim like I’ve learned from my mother, that’s not who I want to be. What can I do?

    #80227
    Anonymous
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    Dear Annie:

    I re-read your post above. I feel sadness for you, how sad it is that you lived – and are living- this kind of life.

    As I see it (and I can’t see how anyone can possibly see it otherwise unless deluded), you are living in a war zone. Your PTSD is the result of having lived your life in a war zone. Only you still visit that zone for another dose of same. You asked: “What can I do?”

    Get out of the war zone and stay out. Stay away from the war zone for good, as in forever, as in for the rest of your life. What other advice can you give a person who no longer has to be in the war zone?

    You didn’t have a choice as a child. Now you do. Annie, please, do anything and everything in your power to never again go back there. Take whatever belongings you need or want from that house, say goodbye- or not- and leave, never to go back.

    Whatever it takes, whatever the cost- stopping college, anything but your very life. Get out, leave, never go back. Never again.

    Whatever attachement you feel to your father, mother, siblings- that will pull you back to that house. How do you put your self interest first? How do you believe in your heart and mind, that the attachment you feel should not translate to going back to that place, that house (going back to be in the physical presence of your mother and/ or your father wherever they are)?

    How do you observe your attachment to that abusive father, to that abusive mother, and figure: this attachment does not mean I should ever be in their presence again?

    I can’t think of anything but the attachment that will make it hard for you to stay away. If they are financing you now, this may be a practical attachment of sorts, but their money, if a factor, is so not worth it. If I could go back in time, I would leave my mother’s little apartment when I was twenty or younger, whatever it took, whatever it took.

    anita

    #80266
    Annie
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    I’ve thought about leaving a lot of times. I don’t have any money or really any friends who I can stay with. I’m also afraid to leave because I’ll be all alone and unsafe. Where will I go? Isn’t it better to stay and figure out something?

    They have done so much for me. I wouldn’t be able to go to have a place to live or any of the nice things I have.

    Being here has destroyed me. After I came back home and left my friends and lost my relationship, I realized that I was really the only person that I had to process emotions. I always wanted to find comfort from my mother, but she was abused as a child too. She doesn’t show any affection, for her affection is feeding and clothing me. Nobody in my house is allowed to cry or talk about anything emotion related. When someone cries there is lots of belittlement and we’re told that we’re ungrateful. You are right, I am attached. My parents were always so intrusive, making every decision for me and controlling my life that I’ve reached a point where I don’t think I can be completely independent.

    #80270
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Annie:

    My empathy, Annie. I suggested you leave that house but I cannot insist on you doing so. One good reason why that would be unreasonable for me to do so is because .. I will not be there to hold your hand as you leave that house, or to provide you with a place to live in or a job or money or emotional support, etc. I do hope that one day, soon enough, you will be out of there. You wrote here: “Being here has destroyed me.” how can anyone wish anything other than you not living there anymore? You also wrote: “They have done so much for me.” Huh? You mean the feeding in between the abuse? Yes, my mother was the greatest cook. She fed me very well. She fed me and clothed me with her very hard earned money and she robbed me from LIFE. She crushed me and fed and clothed the stump of a person left there on the floor. Not a good deal for me.

    “I wouldn’t… have… any of the nice things I have,” you wrote. Nice things are kindness and respect. You don’t have those nice things, do you?

    The fact that your mother was abused as a child too is not surprising. When is it not the case, that an abusive mother was also abused as a child? She having been abused doesn’t make your abuse hurt any less.

    Do what you can do to help yourself.
    anita

    #80275
    Annie
    Participant

    Hello,

    Thanks for considering many different perspectives when responding. Soon, I will be going back. I do feel like I have never been treated with kindness or respect. We shouldn’t bring people down, especially those we love. I have no more words, I hope to move on from this and become stronger.

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