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  • #230925
    Wanderer
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    Good morning readers.

    First I wanted to express how much I appreciate the people on this forum. I’ve been reluctant to ask for advice anywhere on the internet for obvious reasons. The community here really is incredible and it’s such a relief to finally be able to put a little of myself out there. I don’t often write, so please excuse any editing mistakes and understand this may look a little jumbled, but I’m really just trying to get through all of these thoughts and stop procrastinating. I’m ready to make some changes in my life and am not sure which resources to utilize and really just wanted to start here and see where things go.

    I’ve floated around from job to job largely looking for the balance between comfort and income, always leaning towards comfort. Now in the third decade of my  life, I want so badly to have had made the choices that would have put me in a home, with a family and a career. I was very short-sighted, often emotional and never planned further out than a few months. I have no formal education outside of high school, entry-level experience in my jobs and will have to start from scratch wherever I end up going, and that’s ok.

    I avoided looking at my life for far too long and now want to start making the steps to taking control of my life and setting out on a path to creating a life I’m not ashamed of. When I search through my history, my mind and my heart for the answer to what direction I should go, tumbleweeds and a light breeze seem to dominate the mental landscape. I’ve taken more tests and quizzes than I’d ever want to admit, I’ve attempted to profile myself and made a hundred lists. Sometimes one path will sound good only for it to seem childish and short-sighted the next day. I change my mind by the hour, which is largely why I am where I am today. I know that no one here can really extrapolate any more information than I, but perhaps there is a common thread or an alternate way of looking at things that may help.

    A brief history: I was never a very good student, I struggled to focus and had a bit of a chip on my shoulder when it came to authority when I was younger. I cheated and did the bare minimum, and I never thought I was smart enough to consider college. I also knew back then that I had no idea what I might want to do, and the commitment seemed absurd without a plan. I floated from freight docks to desk jobs. I  resented the manual labor jobs because I was lazy and the desk jobs because they were boring. Directionless and bitter I sought all of my validation in relationships which would eventually cause them to end. For a short spell, I bartended in a small town and enjoyed it more than most anything else I had tried up to that point. I was finally making enough money to afford luxuries I never thought I’d have, made some friends and it kept me physically busy in a way that left me feeling like I had earned what I took home. I grew up a lot in that time frame, the job, and the town were eventually left behind and I went back to being lost. My work history seemed to hold only a few clues as to what I might find joy in.

    Outside of work I largely just wanted to spend time with people. I love talking about ideas, I would talk anyones ear off that wanted to listen and loved absorbing new concepts and points of view. I enjoyed photography for a short time, capturing little moments in time, I liked working out when my mind was in a good place, it felt good to make observable, trackable progress. I often enjoy learning about a new subject and usually find myself obsessivley researching everything there is to do with it before finding the next thing. Space fascinated me most of my life and I’ve always enjoyed talking about nuetron stars, black holes and trying to figure out the truth to why we’re all here. I’ve always been interested in people from a psychological perspective as well, why people do what they do, how our personal histories effect us and what makes us tick. Learning other languages always was intriguing but was always so difficult to stick to one long enough to make progress before another language sounded more interesting or practical.

    I’ve asked people what they thought of me so that I could gain some outside perspective.  Answers were things like: kind, soft-spoken, funny, good with people, good listener, empathetic. Most people reccomended jobs in the medical field, teaching or social work, but most just told me I shoud go back to school because regardless of what I should do, I wasn’t living up to my potential.

    I guess that leads me to where I am today. I’m looking for the next job and seem to be exclusively looking at low-wage, low-skill warehouse positions. While I understand I haven’t done anything to justify a better job, I’m afraid i’m going into another job that I don’t want, with no prospects for what would be next and this whle cycle is going to perpetuate itself until suicide once again feels like the only way out of the pain, loneliness, and mediocrity. I’m determined to do better this time and I know that even if my next job is something that is not for me I need to have a plan in motion to set up a life worth living.

    I’ve made a small list of some of the things I’ve considered in the past and added my concerns for a little extra data.

    I’ve thought about picking up a trade-skill, I likely wouldn’t  enjoy the work and am not very handy, but having a practical skill that has a future is appealing, if for no other reason than the stability and the ability to support myself and a famiy. Staying physically active can often be good for a ruminating mind as well.

    I’ve considered teaching, I don’t know if I would be a good fit for this or not. I enjoy the idea of talking with people about ideas and helping people who want to learn. Structuring lesson plans and being in front of a group of people all day scares the hell out of me just thinking about it. Something like ESL one on one seems less intimidating but I’m not sure.

    Psychology is endlessly fascinating, but I think my love of the subject would have little to do with what a psychologist would practically be doing with clients.

    I’ve considred being a mail-carrier, walking, staying busy, listening to podcasts and audiobooks, while having time to yourself sounds wondeful, assuming that’s really what i’d be doing.

    Voice acting, I’ve always been told I had a good voice and I’ve always loved stories. With voice technlogy going the way it is I’m sure voice acting is going to be obsolete soon, but I’ve always enjoyed the idea. (I also don’t know if I could stand in a booth alone for hours reading aloud without going crazy). Maybe something with other people though?

    Film crews seem like a lot of fun, traveling, nailing that perfect shot and creating something that people would enjoy. I watch things like Blue planet and think of how amazing it must be to get to travel the world, shooting such amazing footage. This just feels like a pipe dream and I know it can be hard on people with depression (Anthony Boudain comes to mind).

    Journalism, I don’t often write and rarely for fun, but the idea of getting important trust-worthy stories out into the world often sounds like an important and fulfilling career.

    I realize that this is something we all have to discover for ourselves and problems like this are something we all deal with. I know sometimes there is a common thread that isn’t immediately obvious (I’m hoping there’s one here).  If anyone has any personal perspective, opinions, conclusions or maybe even ideas that haven’t been considered, I would be really grateful. Thank you for reading this far and I hope you all have a wonderful day.

     

     

    #231091
    LeeP
    Participant

    Hi, Wanderer,

    One thing that jumped out at me from your post:  have you thought about bartending as a career?  Sounds to me that bartending was the one job you seemed to enjoy, and that seems to be a position where you can use your communication skills without the anxiety of standing up in front of a classroom.  Hope you find your way.

    Lee

    #231187
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Wanderer:

    You write very well, no shortage of intelligence and language skills. Or social grace. Or creativity. And on top of all this, you have a realistic understanding of future careers, what it takes, as well as pretty good amount of insight into yourself.

    You know of course, how quickly you can imagine things, how easily it is to do so and how different it is from actually doing things, persisting in the execution of any real life plan of action. It is tempting, when in a difficult execution of a plan of action to… daydream about another idea and enjoy another quick and easy … sort of rise to fame, all in between the ears.

    Looking back at my own fantasy life, I’d say, real life has never matched fantasy and  never will. It simply doesn’t feel that good.

    You mentioned living up to one’s potential. We all heard about that concept, haven’t we. Thing is hardly anyone lives to his or her potential. Almost every person on the face of this earth falls way below his or her potential. Reading your writing, I see (with my professionally untrained eye) a potential of you being an astronaut,  professor in some prestigious university and whatnot.

    I think living up to one’s potential, in practical terms is fantasy.

    In practical terms, there is a lot you can do to live a better life than you do now, not as good as fantasy, but way better than now. As you examine the possibilities, don’t look at the situation from way up there, from the fantasy-perspective. Look at it from down there, ground level, where you are now.

    I will soon get away from the computer as I am losing my focus. We can communicate further if you’d like. Post and I will reply. Your topic is not one that can be resolved in one post, surely.

    anita

    #231231
    Wanderer
    Participant

    Thank you for reaching out, and for the kind words, hearing them helped tremendously.

    I believe that perspective may just be one of the largest issues. Having my head stuck either in a book or in the clouds my entire life has undoubtedly led to a top-down perspective in life. Perhaps the view from the bottom-up looks something more like the step you have in front of you. I’m certainly not qualified for very much which narrows the decisions I could make for the next step fairly drastically, potentially that is for the best.

    The reason I see this problem being as important as I do is due to the cycles of depression. I always imagined the emotional lows in life largely came from adolescent hormones but honestly they feel as though they’ve gotten much more difficult. The last cycle took me out of the game for almost a year and a half now and a lot of it was spurred by my age and a lack of stability. While I fully understand that I need to stop comparing, treat myself better, take things one step at a time etc (the list could go on for pages), it’s only a temporary relief because my mind is always chewing on the larger problem. Ultimately I know what will work is a clear sense of direction. Naturally, that isn’t something you can force, but it’s importance really feels paramount in times of distress, and every day without it seems to cause distress.

    I wish I knew which questions to ask, both to myself and others that might lead the thought process into territory that made more sense. If I were giving someone else advice I would tell them that mistakes were simply going to be a part of the journey and that they probably couldn’t get it right, and all that meant was you had to pick your head up and try again. However, the volatility of emotions after extreme failure scares me more than I can comprehend because it really feels like my mind may “win’ the next battle in the worst way. While I understand that failure is still likely, I feel like it’s vital that I at least make decisions based off of something other than desperate emotions to maximize my chances of at least feeling that my life has some sense of direction. Up until now I’ve tried the throw everything at the wall and see what sticks method many times and it’s the only thing I know won’t work. Unfortunately, it feels like the only weapon I have in my arsenal and I don’t know what to do other than to finally reach out.

    #231233
    Wanderer
    Participant

    As for bartending, I wish the job translated well to another, especially because of the alcohol. At the time I was very young, drank frequently, and was around other young drinkers. I liked the job a lot back then but I feel as though going back might be more an attempt at recreating the past than it would be pursuing something worth aiming for.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Wanderer.
    #231293
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Wanderer:

    “the view from the bottom-up”-

    I imagine you will do well in this situation: apply for an entry position in a company that affords the opportunities of advancement within the company, as well as opportunities outside the company, if you were to leave the company at one point (transferrable skills).

    Start at the bottom and work your way up to human resources/ managerial positions within the company. As you do the bottom part of the “bottom up”, you will keep your feet on the ground, endure the boredom and .. despair,  and practice persisting through boredom and despair. As you do, learn (take classes as needed) and apply to higher positions where you will work with people, counseling employees, managing employees, hiring, firing and such.

    I would say, look for a company now with opportunities for progress within, start at the bottom with your aim at the top. If you take time out and get a degree, it will keep you floating, but if you do as I suggest you will accomplish two things: feet on the ground and a plan to study and advance while your feet are on the ground. What do you think?

    anita

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