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  • #84311
    Chris
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    My fiancé and I have been separated by 11 time zones and 10,000 miles for a year and a half. The us government had been giving us a problem with her re-entry to the usa and we have engaged in a legal remedy to this. During this time I’ve dealt with major waves of depression and anxiety. This is not normal for me. We have appealed the government’s position and await a decision within a month or so. My emotional state of mind seems to be less stable as the weeks pass. Does anybody have some words of wisdom on how I can learn to wait with more peace and patience? Also, during times when we cant speak, I’ve experience a massive “void” due to loss of connection.

    #84315
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    Make Plan B: in case the answer by the US government is negative, not allowing your fiance re-entry, what will you do? Making a plan can help you feel less powerless.

    Also, you are welcome to describe this massive void you are experiencing, here on this thread: put it in words, let that void express itself in words, here. As is.

    anita

    #84318
    Chris
    Participant

    Plan B is to re-apply for a waiver, a process that will be costly and take 7 months or more. I’m afraid of this. I don’t know how I can emotionally handle it if this happens. My state of mind has not been well at times. The void is this; we share an intense connection when we can talk, but we can only talk in the morning or evening because of the time difference. I’ll be going through my day doing just fine then suddenly, as if a switch was turned on, an immense emotional emptiness consumes me. It’s horrible and I’ve never experienced anything like it. I think it is tied to the uncertainty of our situation. I am unable to live in her country and if we are unsuccessful at appealing the decision, she will not be allowed in the US for another 8 years. I can’t describe how horrible that thought is to me. I’m in tears just typing this. I love this woman with all my soul and to not be with her tears me apart. I’m normally a very strong person. I’ve been through a LOT in life and have always had the emotional resources to do well. But this uncertainty is beyond my current abilities.

    #84319
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    You express yourself very clearly. This is a good thing. Are you saying that Plan B (or C or D) cannot include you living with her in her country or in a country other than hers or the U.S?

    Plan B includes not only arranging for the two of you to live together but must include how to deal with this new phenomenon in your life, this massive void as you expressed it here. How to manage this devastating experience until the two of you live together.

    I will be waiting for your answer of my question.
    anita

    #84320
    Chris
    Participant

    I’m a single dad with aging parents that require my care. It would be devastating to my son to move him and I could not abandon my parents. Moving is not an option for me. If it were not for those obligations, I would have walked away from my life here (I own a successful business that has taken years to build) and started fresh in her country.

    I’ve been dealing with this “void” experience for over a year. It’s intensity and frequency have increase with the passing of time. My fiancé and I talk about it and she is very supportive of me. I exercise, practice gratitude, help those less fortunate, meditate, listen to motivational and spiritual teachings, eat properly and try to focus on positive things and solutions. I do everything I know I should do, yet it comes, accompanied by anxiety that lasts days. Often it happens on the weekends and I’ve come to regard weekends with dread. I refuse to take drugs for it and I really don’t have much faith in psychological counseling.

    #84339
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    I can read in your post that you are a very rational person. You covered everything relevant to your problem in two short paragraphs. I am impressed by your rationality and clarity.

    You are missing your fiance, that connection. You need it. As is, your life, as much sense as it makes, as clear as you are, you are ALONE with lots of obligations and have done very well, but you are alone and you are only human, needing that togetherness to CALM you.

    Children that get traumatized severely have much greater chances to heal if they get that togetherness with a supportive adult, much more than children far less traumatized but have no supportive connection with another. As good and right and sensible as your life is, there are anxieties that require that comforting presence of another. Another person who is there to comfort you.

    You support and comfort others but you need to be comforted too. It is only human. You can tranquilize yourself with medications (which you are against and so am I) and psychological counseling will not change that human need, that normal, natural, biological need that you have to be comforted by the woman you love.

    See how strong your need is? To be comforted by another adult, to be taken care of that way? This is the child-in-you that naturally needs the comforting presence of an equal other (not of a dependent minor child or a dependent aging parent).

    That dread of the weekends, the dread of being alone, unoccupied, with time to feel the fear-alone. You could deal with fear together with her. Alone and afraid is a terrible combination.

    While you are waiting for the legal stuff- and waiting does seem reasonable- it seems to me that it could help you to be together, on weekends, with another adult or other adults who are not dependent on you, so you are not afraid and alone. Certain support groups can do? A group of some kind where you can feel connection. Not to fix a psychological problem, only to be TOGETHER. I see no other way to experience patience and peace while you are waiting.

    You can also write here again and again. I will read and respond, if this is somewhat helpful, not in fixing you (you need no fixing) but only so to provide you with understanding and some emotional support…. until you find the physical presence of an appropriate group of non-dependent-on you people where you can be yourself, where you can be vulnerable (something you can’t really be taking care of those you take care of).

    anita

    #84345
    Chris
    Participant

    Anita, thank you so much for your thoughtful insight. Reading your response brought forth deep emotions. I had endured many years in a situation of emotional abuse from a mentally ill spouse. Oh, and by the way, I am a health care provider so I get to care for people all week long. You hit the nail on the head. I care for many and need connection and love. I need my fiances presence. Connection just cant be willed into existence. I’ve looked for support groups in my area and haven’t found anything that’s a fit for me. But getting another perspective is helpful. I feel a bit more sane. Thank you.

    I was reminded of this passage from the children’s book the velveteen rabbit

    “What is REAL?” asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by
    side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. “Does
    it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?”

    “Real isn’t how you are made,” said the Skin Horse. “It’s a thing that
    happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just
    to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real.”

    “Does it hurt?” asked the Rabbit.

    “Sometimes,” said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. “When
    you are Real you don’t mind being hurt.”

    “Does it happen all at once, like being wound up,” he asked, “or bit
    by bit?”

    “It doesn’t happen all at once,” said the Skin Horse. “You become. It
    takes a long time. That’s why it doesn’t happen often to people who
    break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept.
    Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved
    off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very
    shabby. But these things don’t matter at all, because once you are
    Real you can’t be ugly, except to people who don’t understand.”

    “I suppose you are real?” said the Rabbit. And then he wished he had
    not said it, for he thought the Skin Horse might be sensitive. But the
    Skin Horse only smiled.

    #84350
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    You amaze me: you did think of everything, including support groups. You thought very well about your situation from every angle- your insight is impressive to me. I suppose you have been running around on empty for a long time, taking care of others, caring for others while you need to be taken care of as well. You need to be fueled once in a while yourself. The telephone calls with your fiance are not enough. You need her physical presence. It is understandable.

    The Rabbit story, thank you for sharing it here. The Skin Horse said being real doesn’t happen to people who break easily. I would like to add: even people who do not break easily do break. It may take more, but everyone is breakable. Also the Skin Horse said that when you are real you don’t mind being hurt. I disagree: I think any person, like any animal, minds getting hurt. Hurt is real and we all mind it.

    You have a good, loving connection with your fiance. I have an idea. I tried it in another context and it works but you have to give it a … real try. When you are anxious and depressed, when you feel that massive void coming, enveloping you next time, imagine your fiance image. See her in your mind’s eye (or look at a photo).

    You do carry her image in your mind. She is a person outside of you, of course (stay with me, if you will), but she is also part of your psyche. She is living in your brain. So, next time, bring that image to life. Talk to her and let her talk to you.

    You probably did something like that, I am almost sure you did, but I am suggesting taking it a step further. I don’t mean imagining her, i mean bringing a REAL part of YOUR psyche to your attention. When you are afraid and need her presence, she is already with you, her image in your mind, that part of your psyche.

    Experiment…?

    anita

    #84365
    Chris
    Participant

    You are quite right. People DO break. I cant say that I don’t mind hurting, that would not be true. In this case its not the person that is doing the hurting, she is very loving and kind, its the circumstances. So I would suffer for this love just as I would if my child were trapped on the other side of the globe.

    I’m continuing my search for constructive ways of coping with this time and the uncertainty of our situation. It is that uncertainty that brings out the difficult feelings. I feel her always within me, as a part of me. She is in each thought and moment. She is a deep part of my psyche, of my being. It is during times when I have no physical validation that I become stressed. Men do have different needs. But couple this with the truth that our fate is in the government’s hands, and as each day passes we near a decision. We don’t know when the decision will come, or if there will be more delays. We don’t have a clue as to the outcome. How does one wait with peace and patience under these circumstances? How does one live in the moment, fully, here and now? Its a rhetorical question i suppose…

    #84369
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    Yes, I am not likely to provide an answer to you but I will keep trying … because it is my nature. Here is a Buddhist like answer: you wait with peace and patience once you stop waiting, once you stop wanting her with you.

    What? Crazy, isn’t it? Stop wanting her with you. Love her still, of course, do anything and everything that needs to be done to get her to live with you, but stop wanting it so much.

    Hush that fire, that desire to have her with you. Stop wanting so much

    (a line from the movie, Proof of Life, I believe it is, with Russel Crowe who frantically looks for his kidnapped wife, but his efforts being frantic do not bring results. Someone tells him in the movie: You want it too much).

    Like I wrote, I keep trying and will keep trying until you stop me.

    Here for you, write more any time. Good night for now.
    anita

    #84394
    Chris
    Participant

    Anita,

    I’m continually searching for a way to navigate this situation better. I’ve been thinking along these lines lately. It’s not crazy at all. I think the Buddha made mention that the root of suffering is desire. What I’m beginning to practice is emotional detachment and self compassion during times when I am alone, while maintaining complete presence and love during times when we are able to communicate.

    It’s a tricky balancing act for me, yet I believe this is the direction to go in. What I’ve noticed lately is that instead of the emotional “void” experience, I have more times of peace. When I do feel upset, I can at least cry and release the built up emotions. This is far preferable to feeling completely empty, to experiencing that hellish void.

    Thank you so much for offering your thoughtful insight.

    #84398
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chris:

    You are welcome. It has been refreshing to read your posts, a solid, effective rational thinking, insight, wide perspective, experimenting with solutions: very refreshing. Any post or thread you enter here on this website will be appreciated by me!

    All best to you!
    anita

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