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  • #269389
    Anonymous
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    Hello everyone,

    New member of tiny budha here

    I want to share my story hoping to get some advise

    I’ve been married for 16 years and just

    Recently my wife decided to separate

    She told me that she was involved with

    A friend from work and she had feelings

    For him.

    Being honest I have not being a good husband I cheated many times and I lied

    To her a lot, I’ve been involved with random

    Men I don’t know why I did this I feel so terrible about it but I can’t change the past

    I never make her feel loved and that’s why she found releived with another man, I’m not continuing this nonsense homosexual relationships since it has cost the devastation of my marriage eventhough she never found out abou it.

    I love her and my family (we have three beatiful kids together) I want to fight for her but I don’t know if I even deserve her.

    She told me she still have feelings for me but she is not sure she wants me to come back.

    If anyone has some suggestions I will apreciate that.

    Thank you all.

     

    #269423
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear free man:

    The easy question for me to answer would be: should I fight for the well being  of my three children? That would be a Yes,  of course. Therefore my answer to your question, “Should  I fight for my marriage?” is- only if it serves your children well, and not if it doesn’t.

    Often enough it is not good for the children to live with both parents.  If parents fight, it harms children,  so better the two live separately so that the home  where the children live is peaceful, calm.

    If the parents are  miserable in the marriage, anxious and distressed, that anxiety and distress will harm the children, so better the two live separately and each parent is calm when interacting with the children.

    Here is one concern, based  on your short post, that I have regarding anxiety and distress of the individual parents in this case, you and your wife, you wrote: “I’m not continuing this nonsense homosexual relationships”. I don’t think it is that easy to make such a decision and follow through with it. An urge, a physical urge led you again and again to  look for men. I don’t think an urge like that goes away because you call it “nonsense”.

    Let’s say you stay in the marriage, your wife is interested in continuing the marriage, you calm down. Then you are out and about and there is this man that looks attractive to you, you have a window of  opportunity right-there-and-then, what happens next?

    It is likely to happen, again and again, and you continue to compartmentalize it best you can, a husband and father in the open, a homosexual man in secret. I imagine this will continue  to cause you distress and will negatively affect the marriage, like it already has.

    I think it is better for you to give up the marriage and co parent your children best you can. Post again if you’d like to continue this communication with me.

    anita

    #269569
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Anita

    Thank you for taking the time to read my post. My kids are my priority and I will alwayas do what’s best for them, they’re with me every other weekend and as far as my wife well I love her so much and I want the best for her even if that means letting her go.

    I’ve never felt attraction for men I don’t k ow why I did that’ I like women so maybe I need to find the reason why I engaged with men I know it sounds contradicting but I’m being honest I don’t like men at all.

    I’m so confused I really love my wife with all my heart and I don’t want to cause any more pain if she finds love somewhere else I will respect that and as for me like as said in my last post I decided not to feed that sinful behavior any more even if she decides not to go back with me. I want to work in myself to be a better version of me and to be the best that for my kids.

    I will continue writing as long as you or someone else respond with any suggestions or advises on my issues.

    Thanks again for all your input Anita.

    Sicerelly Free man.

    #269587
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Free man:

    You are welcome. I am glad to read that your kids’ well-being is your priority.

    For the purpose of fighting for your marriage (your question, title of thread), you first have to  figure out why you have been cheating on your wife and lying to her many times (“I have not being a good husband I cheated many times and I lied”) while you “love her so  much and ..want the best for her”.

    Have to  know the reasons for your behavior, what motivates you, otherwise, it will be difficult to make your life better. Not knowing reasons and motivations is like navigating life in the dark, without a source of light, bumping into walls, confused.

    Asking and answering questions may be that source  of light that you need.  If you would   like, please answer the following:

    1. When you wrote that you “have not being a good husband”- in what ways were you not a good husband, besides cheating on her and  lying  about the cheating?

    2. Did you lie to her about other topics besides the  cheating?

    3. Did you cheat  on her with women as well or only with men?

    4. Did you have homosexual encounters with men before you were married, if so how long  before/ at what age  onward?

    5. What  do you mean by “I don’t like men at all”- what don’t you like about men?

    6. Regarding your sentence: “I’ve never felt attraction for men I don’t know why I did that I like women so maybe I need to find the reason why”- If you never felt  attraction for  men, does it mean you didn’t enjoy having sex with them?

    7. Can you give me an example of a random encounter with a man, where did it happen, when and how it came about (without giving any sexual specifics)?

    anita

    #269653
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Anita,

    you’re right i need to find the reasons of my behavior or i will not be able to fully step into my life, i will gladly answer the questions with the of my honesty:

    1. When you wrote that you “have not being a good husband”- in what ways were you not a good husband, besides cheating on her and  lying  about the cheating?

    A. maybe i wasn’t a bad husband since i always look out for her (although she mentioned several times she didn’t feel protected enough from me) i remember telling her that I wanted her to be more independent, capable to handle situations on her own, so when i said i wasn’t a good husband is due to laying to her and cheating so many times.

    2. Did you lie to her about other topics besides the  cheating?

    A. i don’t think i lied to her besides cheating (i didn’t just cheat physically but also virtually since i was addicted to dating chats and staff of that kind texting etc.)

    3. Did you cheat  on her with women as well or only with men?

    A. i did cheat on her with women as well ( the most hurtful was when she found out I and her cousin’s wife  were sex-texting for a long time ) i also got sexually involved with a few women from work back then (i don’t work there any more) one time when we were just married (maybe for a few months already) i approached a girl friend of hers trying to convince her to hung out with me (she she refused to my petition and told on me)  and i cowardly denied everything.

    4. Did you have homosexual encounters with men before you were married, if so how long  before/ at what age  onward?

    A. When i was in middle school and older guy took advantage of a situation i had (he when to my school’s office pretending to be my uncle because i asked him to do so this way i could get away with a situation without getting grounded from my parents) in return he performed oral sex on me (i’ve never told anyone about this) other than that no homosexual encounters before i was married.

    5. What  do you mean by “I don’t like men at all”- what don’t you like about men?

    A. what i mean is that i don’t feel physically or sexually attracted to men  (of course i have have guy friends and i like spending time with them) only toward women.

    6. Regarding your sentence: “I’ve never felt attraction for men I don’t know why I did that I like women so maybe I need to find the reason why”- If you never felt  attraction for  men, does it mean you didn’t enjoy having sex with them?

    A. i don’t think i enjoyed having sex it was more like a need to do something immoral or wrong (i never allowed anal intercourse it was just orally)

    7. Can you give me an example of a random encounter with a man, where did it happen, when and how it came about (without giving any sexual specifics)?

    A. it always happened either in my car or on the other man’s car, i used to go to a adult book store parking lot where many guys go and just park there to find random sexual encounters.

    I also need to mention something else. i have a fetish on wearing women’s panties or tight pants and just looking myself at the mirror (in many ocassions i would wear women’s pants to go to this place looking for sex.

    talking about this is very embarrassing for me i hope you don’t feel offended i’m just trying to find some sort of guidance.

    thank you so much for the time you’re investing on a person you don’t even know Anita i really appreciate that.

    Freeman

    #269663
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Freeman:

    You are welcome. Reads to me that the very specific activity with men, the one that started that time in middle school, is very enjoyable for you, an intense stimulation, and it is not a part of a bigger experience  with men. It is just that one act. And going to the adult book store parking lot is where that act is available, free  of charge. Do I understand correctly?

    And then, you have this hunger for sex, is this hunger connected to another type of hunger in earlier childhood, do you think, such as hunger for attention, to be seen and noticed?

    anita

    #269671
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Anita,

    i didn’t enjoyed that experience back in middle school i felt it was more of a sexual abuse from that man that is why have never talked about this with anyone.

    another thing that happened to me is that through out all the elementary school years a few kids from my class used to bully me they would call me faggot, sissy and stuff of that nature, i think i was more kind of a sweet kid side and they didn’t tolerate me because of that, they would humiliated me in front of other kids i was also object of physical abuse from them. not sure if this is somehow is sabotaging my mind  or subconscious.

    Freeman

    #269673
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Freeman:

    Tell me a bit about your relationship as a child with your mother, with your father?

    You didn’t tell either one what happened with this older person in middle school. Did you tell them about the bullying in school?

    anita

    #269693
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Anita,

    Well she a was very possessive and very negative mother never had a good connection with her, i think she cared about money more than anything else she was always talking bad about the other people (neighbors, relatives my dad even my brother) as for my dad, he was always a religious man didn’t have a connection with him either the only thin he would talk about with me was god and how we should never be bad with other people in order to “be saved” but i don’t remember him talking to me as a father about girlfriends or how i felt about being a teenager.

    i never mentioned the incident of the middle school to my parents or anyone except a friend of mine from middle school which by the way made fun of me for that, i did’t tell them i was being bullied in school either it made me feel embarrassed and stupid since i failed to stood up for myself.

    thanks,

    freeman

    #269703
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear  Freeman:

    Betrayed by the “friend” you told about the incident in middle school. Couldn’t trust a mother who talked  badly about her own son  (your brother)… and your father told you that many years in the far away future you will be “saved” by a  god, when what you needed was to be saved (protected, taken care of) right then and there by him!

    I need to get away from the computer in a few moments. I want to be back to your thread tomorrow morning in about sixteen hours from now. If you can and would like to, please add anything that may be relevant regarding your childhood, maybe explain to me in what ways was  your mother possessive and  what bad things regarding other people did she talk about so much?

    anita

    #269723
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Anita,

    there is something else about my childhood that i forgot to mention, i can’t remember how old i was but i’m guessing maybe 2 or 3 four years old, when my uncle, his wife and three of my cousins (my cousin girl who is about 6 months younger than me and his younger brother and sister) moved in to our house, as any other kids we would play all the time but the thing is that me and my cousin girl started to wake up to our sexuality together we would touch each other parts and this continued until we were teenagers and I moved out of my parents house and came to USA. although we never had any sexual intercourse of any kind (i’m thinking because we were aware that what we were doing was wrong) we did experimented so much pleasure together.  (my wife knows about this and she thinks my cousin is still in love of me because on all the staff she posts on her facebook page) so i’m not sure if this is relevant but i wanted to mention it as well.

    regarding my mother she was possessive in a way that she would always try to control us (not just me but my brothers think the same way) even a few of my friends talked about how weird and grumpy she was in front of me. don’t get me wrong she loved me and i loved her too but she was just weird.

    i will post again if i remember something else. can’t wait for your response Anita until then have a great evening!

    Freeman

    #269791
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Freeman:

    When you wrote that your mother was weird in front of you, what  do you mean  by “weird”?

    At this point, after re-reading all your posts, this is my understanding and recommendations:

    1. You are currently living apart from your wife, having the kids every other weekend. Better remain separated and continue to encourage and help your wife to be independent (“I wanted her to  be more independent, capable to handle situations on her own”).

    2. Focus not on the marriage but on the goal that you stated here: “work in myself to  be a better version of me and be the best that for my  kids”.

    3. From a very early age, before you were five, you were already hyper sexual. You engaged in sex (touching and  being  touched  by your cousin) because it felt good. It felt pleasurable (“we did experimented so much pleasure together”). Pleasure is the main motivation in all that sexual  activity: the dating chats, sex texting, approaching your wife’s cousin, your wife’s girlfriend,  women at your work place and random men in bookstore parking lots.

    We all need and want to feel good. And we try in whatever means available. Some people  overeat, others over-sex. Some gamble. Others climb rocks. You do the sex thing. It is by now a habit.

    4. In your childhood, your father was the weak parent, the distant and removed one and your mother was the strong, overly involved, overly talkative, controlling, dominant parent. Perhaps in her dominant, masculine presence, you became sort of feminine.

    It may be something like this: there was place for only one man/ very masculine presence in your home of origin and that presence/ person was your mother. Every one  else, your father and you, had to be the feminine presence/ persons. You took the extra measures of  some feminine mannerisms, the  liking wearing women’s clothing (“women’s panties or tight pants.. w omen’s pants”), and the  looking for and receiving sexual pleasure from men.

    This is what kids in school picked up on, that feminine mannerism, and they bullied you for it: “a few kids from my class used to bully me they would call me faggot, sissy a nd stuff of that nature”.

    5. The bullies in school humiliated you and beat you up. You didn’t tell about it because you felt “stupid since I failed to stood  up for myself”- it  is time  for you to stand  up  for yourself  now. If you pay attention to how you behaved and still behave in the presence of your mother, you will get the information you need on how you submit to other people, not  only to her,  and what you need to do to assert yourself, to stand up for yourself.

    In closing, for now, I hope you answer the first question I asked you in this post and  let me  know of your  thoughts  and  feelings about any part  of what I wrote here, 1-5.

    anita

     

     

    #269813
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    thank you for your input Anita, what you wrote makes a lot of sense i will meditate on how i behaved in my mother’s presence and see if i can pull some more ideas to share with you

    about the questions you asked of how my mom was weird in front of me, maybe i didn’t explain myself correctly what i tried to say was that my friends used to make comments in front of me of how my mom was weird. i guess it was because she was always sort of angry or grumpy (she would always pay attention to the negative side of people, I can’t remember her saying something nice about somebody she always thought people was mean or with a bad intention even my friends)

    as for my wife she doesn’t want to go back with me and i get it i have caused so much pain, i just want her to be happy for her and for my kids. (although thinking on seeing her with another man and this person raising my kids brakes my heart in pieces) but i know that there would be nothing i can do about it.

    how do you think i can start engaging on healing myself, any suggestions?

    Freeman

    #269851
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Freeman:

    You are welcome.

    Quality psychotherapy will be the best place for you to heal, it has been the beginning for me. But not all therapists are created equal, it will take a capable, caring, empathetic, hard working therapist and it will take your persistent hard work and patience over time.

    There used to be, maybe still are, free support groups for people who are overly occupied with sex, similar to let’s say, Overeaters Anonymous where the overindulgence is in food, or Alcoholics Anonymous, where the overindulgence is alcohol.

    If you do attend therapy, and your feelings as a child brought into awareness and processed, those emotions will stop fueling certain undesirable behaviors,  behaviors that don’t fit your values. For example, when a person becomes aware of the intense desire he had as a child for his mother’s love, that awareness will cause, over time and habit breaking practices,  the desire for food to lessen.

    Post again, re-read my last post to you again, and  take your time, see  if something comes up and share it with me.

    anita

    #269859
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    thanks Anita, i will let you know if something else comes up, i’m currently going to therapy but for some reason i haven’t been able to completely open up to the therapist maybe i need to find another person like you said one that is caring and empathetic or one that resonates with me.

    i will stay in touch thanks,

    freeman

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