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June 25, 2025 at 1:52 pm #447110
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ParticipantVery well seen, about the space, and feeling safer there, because I don’t have to be vulnerable then. I must say have a tendency for limerence too – I do believe it is connected.
June 25, 2025 at 7:46 pm #447121anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
After sending you my last message, I was driving to the farm when something struck me. You mentioned that Philip could be judgmental—and that it was something you didn’t like. But as I thought more about it, I wondered: if you grew up with a judgmental parent, then a partner with similar traits might hold a strange kind of emotional pull.
Not because it feels good—but because it holds a deep hope, something like: maybe this time, I’ll be the exception. Maybe this person will finally give me the full acceptance I longed for growing up. It becomes a quiet wish to rewrite the old story—by winning over someone who reminds you of the one you couldn’t reach. It’s like trying to heal an old wound in a new way.
And often, when someone is already kind and accepting from the start… they don’t spark that same emotional charge. Because there’s no struggle. No uphill climb to earn love.
That thought came to me before I even read your latest messages, where you wrote: “He reminded me of my father and brother: my father being bossy and forceful at times, telling me I should not be so dreamy/absent minded … I do think I could see through his shell, and saw his softness on the inside… They say you look for someone who is like your father (as a girl).”-
He reminded you of your father—bossy, judgmental—and that might have been part of the appeal. Maybe what drew you to him was the chance to finally reach the softness you never got from your father. A second chance at something unfinished.
About why I said I don’t think he was compatible with you—it’s because he talked too much about himself, didn’t ask you questions about you, and was judgmental toward your innocent, lovely ways of being. The dynamic I mentioned above—trying to rewrite a parental story within a romantic relationship—doesn’t build compatibility. It tends to create intensity, emotional upheaval, and often, disappointment.
I just read the last sentence in your third post: “I must say have a tendency for limerence too – I do believe it is connected.”- yes, I believe it is connected. Limerence often involves intense infatuation with someone who feels emotionally just out of reach—someone who may be inconsistent, distant, in ways that create emotional hunger and longing. That dynamic can feel magnetic for someone whose parental and other early experiences of love were shaped by conditional approval, criticism, or the need to “earn” warmth from a parent.
So if your father was bossy and judgmental—it’s very possible that a person like Philip, who mirrored some of those same traits, lit up something familiar and unfinished in your emotional world. The hope, often unconscious, is: maybe I can finally win over this version of my father. That “winning over” becomes the emotional thrill of limerence.
In other words: the more emotionally unavailable or critical the person is, the more it triggers the old script—the quest for love, validation, and proof of worth. It’s not just attraction, it’s an emotional reenactment. And limerence, with all its highs and lows, can feel intoxicating because it mimics that unpredictable search for acceptance she may have experienced growing up.
Does all this sound true to you?
Your work at the bookstore sounds like such a perfect fit for you, and your dressing up for Renaissance Fairs and eccentric clothing —sound absolutely lovely.
As for my day, I did a lot of mowing out on the big farm and spent some time cutting back blackberries. Unfortunately, while doing that, a stinging nettle brushed against my hand… and now it itches, burns, and tingles 😞
Anita
June 25, 2025 at 7:52 pm #447122anita
ParticipantAnd about your sister, it makes me sad how much your mother had hurt you when she told you that you are not as pretty as her. That hurt lingers in you, and that too makes me sad.
Anita
June 26, 2025 at 9:27 am #447133J.
ParticipantYes, that could very well be true, Anita, about Philip and how he looks like my father, also bossy and judgmental. Unfortunately, I feel like men who are not as outspoken, are too…’weak’ now, because I am so used to this image I have, of how a man should be. SAnd also, I am kind of intense and can be judgmental too…look like my parents in that regard. Yes the loving in the distance, when the danger has passed..I think that’s true. That, and maybe that I now compare him to othern men I have met, who did not come close to him. But it’s true I am forgetting the difficult moments with him. I just wonder how to get past this regret, it’s been three months since I met him, and even thought the memories are starting to fade a little (which hurts…I can remember his face less clearly now…) I seem like I don’t want to lose it. Like it’s feels it was not supposed to end this way. I need to let go of hope. I wonder if I should start meeting new men, or maybe take the time to grieve this loss. This has been a lesson to really give things a chance, even though it’s scary. It was so interetsing how Philip himself told me how he himself also had to learn to give things a chance, and not break things off because of a seemingly small point. Yes, good to hear your opinion on the compatibility. I can image this may have been intense and also difficult – it really felt like I was hiding part of myself like with my family. And yes, gaining his love did feel like a challenge I wanted to take on…sounds weird to say though…but I really liked his intense nature, I always liked those types. But maybe he needed more sassiness – if it’s true he would fall for a type like his mum. I have wondered – if it might be true that men who had to hide their emotions, may like to combine emotions with pain? Or create distance with their partner – I have seen this in two guys in my life – who grew up in harsh circumstances and longed for sweetness.
Thank you, I really do enjoy the worsplace and the atmosphere of Renaissance fairs!
Oh ouch, is your hand getting better now? That hurts! Sounds nice mowing grass…especially when you have that cut grass smell surrounding you!
– Emma
June 26, 2025 at 10:40 am #447134anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
My hand is all better now—good as new. The stinging lasted a few hours and then disappeared completely. But it made me think about how some wounds don’t heal that easily.
When a nettle touches the skin, it leaves behind tiny hollow needles that pierce the surface and release a chemical mix. It causes a sharp, itchy, burning sensation, almost like a temporary neural injury.
Emotional wounds—especially the ones we carry from childhood—aren’t like that. When someone is deeply hurt early in life by judgment, neglect, or criticism, the pain doesn’t just disappear. It lives in the nervous system, in the expectations we place on others, and in how we love. And we can’t become “good as new.” Not quite.
But we can find healing. For me, expressing those childhood wounds through journaling made a real difference. Writing—slowly, over time—helped release decades of hurt I had pushed down. The pain isn’t gone completely, but the intensity is no longer what it was. The old hurt doesn’t leap into the present anymore, doesn’t hijack my interactions or confuse my relationships. Everything feels simpler now. Clearer. Easier to meet life as it is.
That kind of expression can be overwhelming, though. Sometimes it’s too much to hold alone, which is why therapy—or the right person to listen—can help. And even then, it’s not about pouring it all out at once. It’s about letting just a little of it come to the surface at a time, and honoring what comes.
If you ever feel like sharing more of your story on your thread, I’ll be there to read with care. Only if you feel safe doing so, of course. And only in the rhythm that feels right to you.
You wrote: “I need to let go of hope. I wonder if I should start meeting new men, or maybe take the time to grieve this loss.”-
Meeting new men before grieving may lead to recreating the same pain in a new form. The story recycles itself—not because we want it to, but because the original wound hasn’t been given enough breath, enough space, to find peace. Grieving doesn’t have to be loud or dramatic. It can just be letting a little bit out at a time. Even that can be a kind of healing.
You wrote: “It really felt like I was hiding part of myself like with my family… I really liked his intense nature, I always liked those types.”- That made me wonder—maybe it’s your own intensity that’s been hidden or pushed down for so long, and that’s part of why his intensity felt so magnetic. It’s not just that you admired it in him—it might be that his boldness reminded you of a part of yourself that’s still waiting for permission to be seen, heard, and expressed.
Maybe what you were drawn to most was the reflection of something powerful and alive in you.
I want to close this post with saying how much I admire your ability to look inward with such honesty. The way you reflect, question, and stay open to understanding yourself more deeply—it’s a rare and beautiful quality. You’re not just moving through this experience… you’re learning from it, shaping it into meaning, even through the pain. That kind of self-awareness is what makes healing possible.
I hope you keep being gentle with yourself through it all. And I hope you know—you don’t have to rush the process. You’re already doing the work, step by step, in exactly your own way.
With warmth and care, Anita
June 26, 2025 at 2:35 pm #447136J.
ParticipantOoh, good to hear your hand is better now. But it sounds like you have been through a lot too, in your life, Anita! If you’d like to share, I’d like to be there for you too! Feel free to share if you want too! 🙂
It seems to be hitting me only now, the things with Philip… . I’m thinking it is a mix of everything we talked about, and also that i have taken away my own chances.
Yes, you’re right…it takes time to heal. I will share with you some stories of my childhood, these are interesting back stories. I am a bit scared (my friend told me, and my uncle) my parents might have some narcissistic traits. I will tell you more tomorrow!Emma
June 26, 2025 at 6:45 pm #447139anita
ParticipantTell me more tomorrow, and I will tell you more as well.🩵
June 27, 2025 at 6:08 am #447145J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
Yes, about my parents: I am from a family of six, I have an older brother, than me, Than a brother and sister. My parents are still together, even though my mum (over) shares a lot about my father does not make her happy in every war: he can be (like Philip) veru clear in the things he likes, finds good taste, and the people he does not like. He never showed his feelings much, eventhough I know he loves us, he used to hug us kind of awkwardly, never sent me a heart emoji or kiss emoji even while I always do that. Somehow that hurt me a bit. He told us he loved my mum the most, then his mother, then us. I don’t know if that’s true, but anyway…
My mum always was very open in showing her love, but this often came down to helping us with everything, making sure we would not fail, and listening to us if we were sad or worried. Same for my father btw! But I feel like they always pushed us, not acknowledging our feelings deeply, or taking them seriously. We always had to push ourselves. What strikes me that both my sister and I have a strange relationship with men – as soon as we feel some of them likes us, we tend to neglect ourselves, and give everything up to make sure they will stay around. Right now, a few of my friends, and my uncle, have said they suspect perhaps they might have narcissistic traits: my father in his very strict judgments of people and things…dismissing them or thinking less of them if they are not to his liking…while my mum can handle criticism very badly. The other day I told her she hurt my by constantly commenting on my weight (even though I don’t think I am heavy, but I am a bit curvy). She said her father one time told her he could see she gained weight, and that got he almost into an eating disorder. Then she told me, that that was her own responsibility: it made me feel she was telling me too, that I should just accept these comments, even though they make me insecure. I don’t even like dressing with her in the same room anymore.I never stood up for myself enough, my mum did tell me this, Philip told me he used to do this very much, but he ended up looking a lot like them. Wish he could helped me with this too. Oh God, the hurt is deep – I just need to move on but my heart is so sad with his loss.
There is much more to tell…but I will break it down in parts!
Do you recognize any of these things maybe…?
June 27, 2025 at 6:10 am #447146J.
ParticipantAlso, my mum thinks my father too harsh in ways: she is sort of kind hearted, with a love for animals and a wish to help kids (mostly who have ADHD or who are otherwise different from the rest) and my father can be very logical, slightly colder if he needs to, eventhough he has a deep feeling for sensitive people too, he has been through a lot as a kid: his brother was very difficult and I believe it was him who had to protect his siblings and counsel his parents.
June 27, 2025 at 8:19 am #447155anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
In the following, I will quote parts of what you shared and gently offer my thoughts about each one.
“He can be (like Philip) very clear in the things he likes… and the people he does not like.”- This tells me that his four children probably tried very hard—at least for a time—to land on the “right” side of his approval before perhaps giving up on the pursuit altogether.
“He used to hug us kind of awkwardly.”- That kind of hug can leave a child anxious, unsure. It doesn’t soothe or ground; instead, it prompts questions like: Is there something wrong with me? Is it difficult to love me?
“Never sent me a heart emoji or kiss emoji even while I always do that. Somehow that hurt me a bit.”- That “bit” of hurt might actually hold many years’ worth of pain that’s been pushed down. It can seem like a small thing, but repeated emotional disappointment has a way of accumulating quietly.
“He told us he loved my mum the most, then his mother, then us.”- To be in third place like that—even if said in jest—can lodge itself in a child’s self-worth, as in: being worthy only of the leftovers of love, after the more “deserving” people are loved first.
“My mum always was very open in showing her love, but this often came down to helping us with everything, making sure we would not fail.”- That kind of love can carry the message that failure is dangerous or shameful—something to avoid at any cost.
“And listening to us if we were sad or worried. Same for my father btw!”- That’s a positive and important piece to acknowledge.
“But I feel like they always pushed us, not acknowledging our feelings deeply, or taking them seriously.”- This is emotional neglect. It’s not always loud, but it’s deeply felt. It’s the ache of not being known in your feelings, even when love is technically “present.”
“We always had to push ourselves.”- And to push oneself without enough emotional support is very, very difficult.
“What strikes me is that both my sister and I have a strange relationship with men—as soon as we feel some of them likes us, we tend to neglect ourselves.”- Here is that word—neglect. When love is paired with emotional neglect early in life, we can internalize the idea that neglect is a normal part of love. That to love someone means to disappear.
“Right now, a few of my friends, and my uncle, have said they suspect perhaps they might have narcissistic traits: my father in his very strict judgments of people and things… dismissing them or thinking less of them if they are not to his liking.”- It sounds like he may operate with what’s called black-and-white thinking, or all-or-nothing thinking—where people are either perfect or deeply flawed, with no room for in-between.
“My mum can handle criticism very badly. The other day I told her she hurt me by constantly commenting on my weight… She said her father once told her he could see she gained weight, and that almost got her into an eating disorder. Then she told me that that was her own responsibility.”- You told her how you felt, and she made it about herself. She wasn’t able to hold space for your feelings. Her own old wound—criticism from her father—rose to the surface and she was not able to be present with your hurt.
“I never stood up for myself enough, my mum did tell me this.”- But a child needs emotional support from a parent or someone else while growing up in order to stand up for themselves. You didn’t get enough of that support to build that foundation.
“He has been through a lot as a kid: his brother was very difficult and I believe it was him who had to protect his siblings and counsel his parents.”- That explains so much. A child who has to counsel their own parents learns to lead with control, not vulnerability. To be the protector and advisor at such a young age, he would have had to put his own feelings aside. And when trying to make sense of complex situations too early, the only available lens is often rigid, black-and-white thinking—the kind he may still carry.
Emma, I don’t see your parents as narcissists. I see them as wounded people. But what matters even more than labels is this: they weren’t able to meet your emotional needs adequately, even if they were trying in the ways they knew how.
And now, those needs—the ones that didn’t get met—deserve attention. They deserve air and light and space. Not to be pushed down like your mother’s were. Not to be overlooked like your father’s. Your feelings deserve to be held with gentleness and respect—especially by you.
You’re already doing this. By writing. By noticing. By daring to ask, “Do you recognize any of these things.. maybe?” You’re giving your inner world the attention it’s long been craving. That’s the work of healing—not pretending everything is okay, but staying present with what was missed and making room for it now.
Yesterday, I told you I would share about my own childhood. But I’ve decided not to do that on your thread right now (I’ve shared plenty on my own threads) because I wouldn’t want to confuse the space that’s so clearly becoming your own.
With care and deep respect, Anita
June 29, 2025 at 1:37 pm #447181J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
I’ve been a bit busy so some delay in my answer. I have been up to something…really stupid…but I was so desparate. I have been reading up on attachment styles..and together with your ideas as well, I feel like fearful-avoidant sounds more likely..it would explain the hot-cold on my part..they say you want love but at the same time you’re seeply afraid of rejection so you start running…I think this was me and Philip, and I’ve done it before..
But yesterday I had a talk with a friend…I shared the story..he said, well, you can always stop by…if you really feel like you can’t have closure…and maybe leave a letter..
And my god…I did. I went to his town, and house…I’ve been there twice but found the address online cause I only remembered his housenumber…
Then I ringed the bell twice, no answer. Then suddenly he came downstairs to go outside I think…and he opened the door and saw me, shouting “NOOO!” and then I said “please…?” standing there, letter to my chest. Then he ran up the stairs, shouting something similar in English to “FUCK OFF!!”
Oh my god…I’ve let myself really go..I left and I quickly returned to put my letter in his mailbox. In there explained why I behaved the way I did, explaining my mental pattern a bit..
Oh I am so ashamed, and on top of everything, I think I now destroyed all chances for reconciliation. I thought I would make it better by explaining everything…
Maybe this lost chance will help me finally move on. I guess it’s the whats ifs that make me live in the past: cause what if it had worked out? Many friends tell me they found him too judgmental, not listening to my ideas in the world. And also, because he talked about other women so much.
Sigh…I really messed this up..the crazy thing of all is that I really liked him…So destructive this pattern.
Anyway – I ma talking to another guy, he does ask me way more questions, and makes sure he answers a bit more regularly. I do think this calms me down more, instead of someone who triggers my issues…Still. My god – I messed up something that could be great. A friend told me she expects Philip to not even read my card, and just throw it away or burn it. Wonder what he thinks of me…
June 29, 2025 at 1:40 pm #447182J.
ParticipantThank you for your views on my parents…I never knwe black-and-white thinking could stem from my father’s youth..
It does get on my nerves, though, that he tries to steer my life, telling me, that when I told him,l I want to move to another town, he said: but surely in the city centre, right?I mean, why does he think he can tell me these things?
I am thinking about sending him an email with the things I found difficult with him. I also need more space from them…I’m just so afraid of his reaction…I don’t want to hurt him, at the same time, I’m afraid I’ll give in too much.
June 29, 2025 at 7:19 pm #447183anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
Thank you for sharing all of this—so honestly and with such raw clarity. I can feel the storm you’ve been in: the ache for understanding, the shame that rushes in when things don’t go the way you hoped, the part of you that longs for repair, and the other part that wonders if you’re just repeating old pain.
Please know this: the visit to Philip wasn’t “crazy”—it was human. It was you trying, with everything you had, to be seen and understood. Yes, it may not have landed the way you hoped, and yes, his response was harsh and painful—but that doesn’t erase the courage it took to show up with your story and your heart.
Naming the fearful-avoidant pattern isn’t just intellectual—it’s part of healing. You’re starting to recognize how your need for love and your fear of rejection have been dancing with each other. That kind of insight? It’s powerful. And it will change how you move forward, even if it hurts right now.
As for your father… it makes sense that his need to direct or steer your choices would leave you feeling small or unseen. You deserve space. And you’re allowed to set boundaries without being unkind. If you decide to write that email, I’d be happy to help you find words that are clear and compassionate—ones that honor your voice while still respecting his humanity.
You didn’t ruin your chance, Emma. You’re reclaiming your voice. And even if some people can’t receive it, that doesn’t make it wrong to speak.
I’m here—no judgment, just care.
With warmth, Anita
June 30, 2025 at 2:42 am #447187J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
Nice to hear you don’t think me crazy – I could imagine it was very intrusive for him, me being in the hallway of his flat..but it was so hard to hear that it seemed I am now some kind of enemy, while we had such nice times. And I went there because I just could not cope with the idea that he thought I rejected him because I did not like him. This was really not the case, as you know from my messages. I keep on wanting to change the past that if I had known that these things were my issues, and if I were mentally more stable and grown before meeting him, we might have worked out. But of course, it is sort of useless to think about it constantly, that way.Even though friends have pointed out his red flag – the continuously talking about exes, allowing himself things but not me like (TMI, maybe, but he said he would not want me to sleep with another man on the side, but he said it would not be unnatural for a man to do so, and even mentioned he would be open to it, it made me distrust him around other women a bit – when I said I would not want that, he accepted).
Thank you for your offer for writing the letter – I have composed something for my parents – and I am sort of nervous about how they will take it. It might be a little tricky to translate it, but I would like to share their reactions with you, if that’s ok!
Warm wishes,
EmmaJune 30, 2025 at 2:44 am #447188J.
Participantmmm good one about the boundaries – for some reason, I feel that me stating them feels unkind – but I guess that is because I never had them..
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