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  • #460424
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    Thinking about you, Girija

    #460417
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    Hey 👋 Dear Confused:

    I hear how hard this is for you — the emotional intensity you felt, the shutdowns, the obstacles, and the fact that the practical part never had a chance to develop. It makes sense that you’re trying to make sense of all of it from different angles.

    About her telling her parents and going silent — that does point toward her moving on, and I know that’s painful to accept 🙁.

    As for the panic lie, her reaction doesn’t erase what the connection meant at different times. But right now, she’s choosing distance, and that’s the part you’re having to face, whether she misses you or not.

    Anita

    #460414
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    “I spent some nice quality time with my husband. I’m just focusing on that and being happy for my baby girl!”-

    👍 👌 🙏🌼

    #460413
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    Getting close to another midnight…

    “Feels incredibly awkward.”- it felt A.W.K.W.A.R.D when I stepped out of my mother’s emotional lane and into my own emotional lane.

    Like.. wait, this is strange, new, uncomfortable. (I was so sickly adjusted to her lane).

    “And yes, my husband truly did see my dad as a father figure”- I feel so sad for him.. and for the child- you because you saw your father as “a dad”. That word, “dad”, like “mom”, suggesting someone safe, dependable.

    Back 2 U in the morning.

    #460409
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    Hey Dear Confused 🙂

    I hear what you’re saying — that in your mind, choosing her and planning a future together felt like real commitment, even before meeting irl. And I understand that for you, that was the highest level of commitment possible at that stage.

    At the same time, what I’m trying to help you remember is the difference between emotional commitment in your head and the practical, everyday commitment that only happens when two people actually live together and build a life side by side. You didn’t have that part yet, and neither did she. So, when you get emotionally carried away now, it helps to keep that distinction clear.

    Regarding defensiveness, it makes sense. A lot of people react that way when they feel misunderstood or pressured.

    Any news social media wise? When should your beautiful gift package get to her?

    Anita

    #460408
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    Hi again, Nea:

    You wrote last night: “I can love my dad, acknowledge the things he has done for me, love and support my husband, and still recognize that their relationship is ultimately theirs.”-

    I think that’s excellent insight: their relationship is ultimately theirs. Not for you to supervise, monitor or fix.

    I have no doubt that you love your father ever since you were a little girl.

    “I can love my dad; acknowledge the things he has done for me”- and acknowledge the things he has done against you.

    You wrote today: “I don’t have to force everyone back into the version of ‘normal’ that makes me feel temporarily safe”- Wow, Nea, I love this insight!

    That temporary- safety, what was it like for you?

    From my earlier post, about “adult differentiation”: “It means you don’t merge with (his) emotions. You stay in your own emotional lane”.

    I didn’t live in my own lane. I lived in hers and it was sincerely terrible to live in her volatile, explosive lane. My healing- changing is not about fixing her lane but stepping away from it and into my own lane.

    Anita

    #460407
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    Continued:

    * My mother carried so so much shame inside, that it was only a-matter-of-time before something about the other person triggered the shame and led to an explosion of one kind or another.

    Certain expressions on my face, nothing that I could monitor or control, trigerred her shame and led to punitive explosions. My eyes looking in the ‘wrong’ direction was enough.

    I remember only a few years ago, I was sitting on a dental chair, having my teeth cleaned by a physically big female dental hygenist who was humming pleasantly as she worked.

    Although she placed sharp metal things in my mouth, I was relaxing into her humming, feeling safe, like I could trust her that she won’t hurt me. I could depend on her. Nothing bad was about to happen.

    If only I had a mother like that.. a mom.

    Next, moving to the computer.

    #460405
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    Hi Nea 🙂

    Thank you for the virtual flowers you sent me yesterday 🙏

    “Perhaps we had all become a little too interwined”-

    You mentioned your husband losing his parents at a young age, so, I guess he looked up to your father as a father figure, not just your father but maybe his own?

    If so, imagine his hurt and disappointment.

    I wonder if your father looked at your husband as a possible son?

    And your husband disappointed him, just as everyone does, sooner or later?

    * It was always the case with my mother- everyone disappointed her.. sooner than later.

    When a person carries too much shame inside… ( have to get off the phone, will be back momentarily)

    #460404
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    Hey Dear Confused 🙂

    By the getting married thing, I didn’t necessarily mean the religious ceremony part of it, or the legal registry. I meant the total, 100% commitment involved in making a life together- in practical, irl, everyday ways.

    And what I understand is that you were never in that place when it comes to her (or with anyone?)- that 100% commitment, marriage or not.

    Not that I think you should have, given that you met irl for only 3 days.

    What I’m saying is that when you get emotionally carried away these days, remember: a 100% emotional commitment was never a thing.

    “I was easily seeing my future with her… I imagined…”-

    I know, and it’s beautiful to imagine a future together with someone you care for so much, and.. at the same time, there was no practical commitment to live together for life.

    Again, not that there should have been.

    I am trying to remind you of this reality in moments when you get emotionally carried away.

    I didn’t understand the context of the first paragraph, about being defensive.

    🤔 Anita

    #460403
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    Hello Shinnen, good to read from you again.

    How to let go of something you don’t want.. like intrusive, OCD-like thoughts, as an example?

    Or let’s say, envy of others, or anger?

    Is that what you mean?

    🤔 Anita

    #460402
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    B back 2 U in a couple of hours or so 🙂

    #460401
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    Hi Nea:

    I’ll reply further later but for now I wanted to copy these two definitions for later use:

    Childhood rescuer role- This is when a child feels responsible for keeping the family calm, safe, or emotionally stable. The child tries to prevent fights, soothe adults, fix problems, or hold everything together because it feels dangerous not to. It’s a survival strategy. The child believes, “If I don’t fix this, something bad will happen.”

    Adult differentiation- This is the adult ability to see yourself as separate from your parents, separate from their emotions. It means you don’t merge with their emotions. You stay in your own emotional lane. This is the core of adult differentiation — the ability to let others have their feelings without losing your center. You can protect your own family, your own boundaries, and your own emotional space. It’s the shift from “I must fix everything” to “I can let others handle their own feelings.”

    #460396
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    Edit: That long awaited feeling of peace

    #460394
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    Good very late morning, Nea:

    You closed your post with “my anxiety keeps telling me that if I don’t intervene, the family will never feel normal again.”-

    My thoughts (protecting my experience): Oh, that precious “‘normal'”. That long- awaited for peace, so desperately needed.

    Of course, any “normal” is not really normal, It’s just a lull before the next storm, but a child needs to believe she’s safe, at least at times, so to take a break from her.. normal state of hyper-viggilence.

    I think that part of it is the child’s desperate need to believe that she has some power in the situation, that she can intervene and bring peace to the volatile home environment, a wishful thinking that makes the situation feel a bit more bearable, a little less out of control.

    Your thoughts, Nea?

    🤔 Anita

    #460390
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    Hey Dear Confused:

    The “boy” in you is the part that reacts emotionally before you start thinking. It’s the part that feels things deeply — fear, longing, excitement — before the adult steps in with logic. Listening to him means slowing down and noticing those first emotions instead of pushing them aside.

    About the “hell yeah, let’s explore this” — that’s a healthy adult response. You’re not someone who jumps into marriage blindly, and that’s fine — you were still moving toward her in the way that fits you.

    And it’s important to remember, especially when you get very emotional about her, that you were never ready to commit to a life with her immediately. You were willing to consider the possibility over time — if the two of you spent much more time together in real life than the three days you had. That’s realism.

    The way you describe her — her traits, her care, her eyes, your jokes, her morals — that’s not loving an idea. Those are real things about a real person. It shows you weren’t imagining her; you were responding to who she actually was. Your regret makes sense.

    🤔 Anita

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