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April 6, 2022 at 1:51 pm #397170BunParticipant
Hello again all,
I want to start with my appreciation for this forum, for all of the wonderful souls that dedicate any time to help alleviate others and raise them up. Over the years this forum has been incredibly healing, motivating, and conducive to my happiness, growth, and success. Thank you for this community!
Over the years I turn to this forum for various things. I know it’s a part of life that you may always have something that is not perfect, that you want to see change in and work on, but that’s life – and I accept that.
My spiritual and life journey has felt like it’s taken a plunge and even sometimes in my current position I think – where did it all go? All of my spiritual work, efforts – and through decisions and associations that somehow misaligned me from myself and past.
In my last post before this one, there is a very detailed comment / response on the timeline of my last few years highlighting my top stressful situations and the thought processes behind it all.
In my last post, January 2021, I was conflicted to move out of my friend and her brothers house, and in with my mother.
After I made the post, my laptop broke, my phone broke – I had no connection and was in my friends home where I didn’t feel comfortable so I simply fixed my phone and called for my mother and moved in with her.
Clicking back on my last post I see I missed a vital response of advice that had I taken “ do not move in with your mother or anyone whom you had bad experiences “.
From there you would not imagine the destruction that has taken place on my time. My mother was very unwell and sparing details would have blow outs and make efforts to incarcerate my brother and I for various things. I talked to police multiple times and she called multiple times, they simply said it was a family matter and left.
During this time I worked on finding a place though I should have just left to a hotel as she called the police on my brother and I and said we refused to leave her house ( she never asked us to leave, she constantly discussed us moving with her, I simply started working on finding my own place after her calling the police and returning to “normal” multiple times ).
I became upset one day as she insulted my brother calling him “POS”. He is older than me but fragile from her abuse as he spent longer growing up with her. I could not take it and I told her to leave him alone. She exploded, insulted me calling me disgusting – my own mother, left the house, came back with police, a scratch on her forehead and told the police I had scratched and forced her out of the house.
Though my brother was a witness this still resulted in me going to jail ( traumatic ), having to be bonded out, and now having my record smeared with a false battery charge.
So after that I was staying in hotels with my brother. We were in hotels for 4 months together, then split up after a silly argument in which he said “I don’t need you” and so I said, so be it and went to my own hotel elsewhere. Still, I sent money to support him and tried my best but I still stayed in hotels myself for around 4 months more. I could not save up enough for a place and afford the $70-$100 hotel nightly. I could only afford to keep paying the hotel. I had no friends to stay with, and my brother was with his partner and children in his own hotel trying to save and do the same as me.
I finally rented a cheap room somewhere in town. Though I was free of hotel fees – I felt in the middle of nowhere in the city, with no transportation, and nothing within walking distance. I found it hard to begin work as I would have to Uber to work and I didn’t have the funds for that consistently.
I spent 4 months there completely scrambling, not working, trying to save funds for Uber to work, my brother asking to live with me and I wanted him to but I was then living with a young guy who had drug issues, I didn’t have space from with not having transportation etc and I didn’t feel it was a good environment for either of us.
I ultimately decided to take up and offer from my ex boss to come back to LA to work / live with him. I took the offer and planned to begin work immediately and send help for my brother as he was in even worst position with no housing, no hotel.
Upon returning, I asked my older sister to pick me up from airport for comfort despite our horrible past and me ending our relationship due to essentially it not being healthy for me. I text my boss after landing that I am out running errands, though it was 10pm it was true my sister wanted to go to the grocery market which was open.
Though he is my boss we are friends as well so I didn’t think this would be a problem. A few hours later I text – no response, I have to sleep at my sisters and she seems upset about it ( we don’t have a healthy relationship ).
The next day I get no response. I call and my boss / friend sounds unlike I’ve ever heard him – angry, unforgiving, insulting – and says I’m on my own. Mind you, he is going through his first divorce and COVID affected work, so it is not a normal time for him.
I felt it was unreasonable as I flew out to work and stay with him and now stranded in the city. After weeks of stress, having to stay with my sister and stress her out with my unexpected stay, he agrees to let me move in with him.
Oh – and surprise mention – I find out I am nearly 5 months pregnant with a one time event that I literally unfortunately did for finances in desperation when I was renting the room with the unstable younger roommate.
So now I am in LA, pregnant, and living with my boss – though now he discusses we will hardly be working together but I can stay here. I call to plan an appointment for termination as I had no money, barely housing staying with boss, and not ready essentially.
I tell my boss and he freaks out. He pays for expensive ultrasound in the middle of the night at a clinic to confirm. He says I should terminate or simply have it and go back to the state with the father who I really didn’t know. I decide to terminate but the next day he is going on a trip out of state. He tells me I can’t stay there any longer, and brings up my marijuana smoking which I unfortunately increase briefly in times of stress but it has never been a problem, simply I was not able to begin work with the constant moves / needing to handle the pregnancy. Anyway I see a side again I have never seen, as if he hates me and doesn’t trust me at all. It was hurtful and so I just called my sister and left to her house.
My sister was very unhappy about me being there but I assured her I could find a place or even rent an Airbnb. She says no, just stay and save and work. I have the operation and she has no empathy towards me. I never speak of my symptoms or the termination and she says “you make everything about yourself” as I sit with the loss of a child and in pain physically while saying nothing about it.
It then becomes horrible daily as we share her studio and she takes out her depression / aggression on me. It was multiple events and comments and her kicking me out multiple times ( while I’m still healing ) from her mood and ultimately saying “I had depression and didn’t give a **** how I treated anybody”, and her actions towards me reflected that. Everyday it felt she hated me, pushed me around, then pointed the finger – I could never speak up. I just tried to save and do my best to find a place.
After almost two months staying with her on and off ( she would kick me out randomly, welcome me back, and do it again ), I return home happy to hangout and have some St Patrick’s day relaxation. When I get back to her studio I send her a friendly text if she wants to get together, she texts back she’s having a mental breakdown and needs space.
I start to cry as I feel her mental breakdowns result in her accusing me of something “you make everything about you” etc. I feel it will result in her being upset / irritable and even majorly passive aggressive or just random rude comments when she’s not happy.
5 minutes later after she texted me she needed space for her mental breakdown – and me returning to her studio, she returns and is completely fine. She says she feels better and asks why I’m crying. I say because she says she’s having a mental breakdown and I don’t know how to help / it’s overwhelming.
She immediately becomes defensive and says she can’t even express her own emotions if she’s having a down day without me taking it personal, etc etc etc.
For me she makes it personal when she is having a down day. It’s not simply a day of her venting – it becomes a day of aggression directed at me.
So I just say ok I’m sorry I’m going to go for a walk and I love her. She says she thinks it’s best I move out ( knowing I have no where to go and here constant up and down affecting my location, thus not working / nothing saved up to pay for a place ). I say okay.
I go for a walk and on my way back her car is stalled in the middle of the street of her studio – she calls me and frantically asks if we can talk. I say it’s fine I will leave today – she says no she wants to talk about me staying. I walk to her car and we chat. She says all of the problems of the month are little to do with her own state of mind but because we are in a small space – studio. And that she is moving to a one bedroom and I can join her, and that it will be 100% better because we have the space.
For me, the last two months with her were so traumatic and just from my perspective an unwell person with high animosity toward me at times taking it out on me. It didn’t sound appealing to me I told her I would think about it.
I left to my friends for the night and asked if she wanted to drive me in exchange for money, and a small gift, not because I needed the ride – but as a way to leave for the night in a friendly manner. She agrees so we leave and chat and have a good drive.
The next morning I awake to paragraphs of her saying I cannot move in with her and should move my things asap. It was just so bizarre but I was over being a fawn to her mental instability and thus, emotional toxicity. I said ok, I love her and will move my things within a week.
Anyway fast forward into the week and I’m trying to secure a room in an apartment with bad credit and weak current work income, not an easy process. I find two and have a hard time deciding between. I ask her, as she’s my big sister, if I can have her advice between the two. When I tell her I’m moving she freaks out and exclaims I have a marijuana addiction and should move into a homeless shelter – one her church operates and she constantly would send me links. It makes me think she doesn’t want to see me working and in a good position, as I have always been in a better position per se financially, with housing, lifestyle, etc. and now while I simply have work and housing issues, some connected to her, she exclaims it’s not possible for me and I should just seek treatment for marijuana.
I have smoked marijuana on and off for a few years – medically. Initially for sleep help working the night shift, and then I simply enjoyed it socially or before yoga. Under this stress with the housing I tend to smoke more as I have a higher level of stress and not my usual coping mechanisms ( my own nice space to decompress – do yoga, meditate, journal, focus on myself and work ) – it’s just been others moods.
Additionally, my sister struggles with quitting marijuana, something I don’t have an issue with. I have weened myself off multiple times – it is like coffee to me. For right now I reason I don’t deserve the stress and it doesn’t help come up with better solutions so I smoke a little more. I still take care of my health, etc. Meanwhile my sister struggles to take care of her health, work, maintain peace or happy lifestyle and to stop smoking marijuana. It seems like a projection for her to accuse me.
Anyway, I made the decision to move into a less desirable apartment situation vs one more aesthetically pleasing / with roommates who seemed healthy and with similar interests, because the 1st apartment was in a safer area. It’s been two days since I moved and I feel uneasy about my roommate already. She does have high anxiety but I find it hard to be trusting even when my guard is down, I feel her anxious nature leads me to feel distrustful. The power was off last night, so I had to leave to a friends. I don’t feel she’s in a healthy or responsible state if the power is being shut off after moving in a roommate and it’s her responsibility. I’ve only given her rent + 1/2 deposit, negotiating to pay full by the end of the week.
Despite the location being nice, the uneasiness I feel makes me wonder if I should check if the 2nd apartment is available – and simply move out this week and negotiate that move out with her keeping the rent for the month + 1/2 deposit.
The 2nd apartment seems a healthier environment in the house ( roommates in a better place emotionally ? ) and it is bright / modern more natural light which I find motivating.
I wonder if I should just stick with it, as it’s a 6 month lease and I’ve signed though not sure the papers are turned in just yet ( sublease ), work for 6 months and make it work, hope the power is back on – and then move somewhere more suitable, or just vacate now and try the other place though the neighborhood is far and apparently not as safe for walking though it may not be a big deal to me.
It’s important I’m in a place I feel safe, can trust my roommates, and can work on my personal things without roommate drama – and the power off, anxiety stuff is kind of drama to me rather than waking up with roommates who are stable in their day / mood.
I want to give her a chance, I’ve only been moved in two days, but it’s been such a drain when I feel I should feel relieved to have a room finally.
What should I do?
April 6, 2022 at 1:52 pm #397171BunParticipant****PASTE RE: *****
I want to start with my appreciation for this forum, for all of the wonderful souls that dedicate any time to help alleviate others and raise them up. Over the years this forum has been incredibly healing, motivating, and conducive to my happiness, growth, and success. Thank you for this community!Over the years I turn to this forum for various things. I know it’s a part of life that you may always have something that is not perfect, that you want to see change in and work on, but that’s life – and I accept that.
My spiritual and life journey has felt like it’s taken a plunge and even sometimes in my current position I think – where did it all go? All of my spiritual work, efforts – and through decisions and associations that somehow misaligned me from myself and past.
>In my last post before this one, there is a very detailed comment / response on the timeline of my last few years highlighting my top stressful situations and the thought processes behind it all.
In my last post, January 2021, I was conflicted to move out of my friend and her brothers house, and in with my mother.
After I made the post, my laptop broke, my phone broke – I had no connection and was in my friends home where I didn’t feel comfortable so I simply fixed my phone and called for my mother and moved in with her.
Clicking back on my last post I see I missed a vital response of advice that had I taken “ do not move in with your mother or anyone whom you had bad experiences “.
>From there you would not imagine the destruction that has taken place on my time. My mother was very unwell and sparing details would have blow outs and make efforts to incarcerate my brother and I for various things. I talked to police multiple times and she called multiple times, they simply said it was a family matter and left.
During this time I worked on finding a place though I should have just left to a hotel as she called the police on my brother and I and said we refused to leave her house ( she never asked us to leave, she constantly discussed us moving with her, I simply started working on finding my own place after her calling the police and returning to “normal” multiple times ).
I became upset one day as she insulted my brother calling him “POS”. He is older than me but fragile from her abuse as he spent longer growing up with her. I could not take it and I told her to leave him alone. She exploded, insulted me calling me disgusting – my own mother, left the house, came back with police, a scratch on her forehead and told the police I had scratched and forced her out of the house.
Though my brother was a witness this still resulted in me going to jail ( traumatic ), having to be bonded out, and now having my record smeared with a false battery charge.
So after that I was staying in hotels with my brother. We were in hotels for 4 months together, then split up after a silly argument in which he said “I don’t need you” and so I said, so be it and went to my own hotel elsewhere. Still, I sent money to support him and tried my best but I still stayed in hotels myself for around 4 months more. I could not save up enough for a place and afford the $70-$100 hotel nightly. I could only afford to keep paying the hotel. I had no friends to stay with, and my brother was with his partner and children in his own hotel trying to save and do the same as me.
I finally rented a cheap room somewhere in town. Though I was free of hotel fees – I felt in the middle of nowhere in the city, with no transportation, and nothing within walking distance. I found it hard to begin work as I would have to Uber to work and I didn’t have the funds for that consistently.
I spent 4 months there completely scrambling, not working, trying to save funds for Uber to work, my brother asking to live with me and I wanted him to but I was then living with a young guy who had drug issues, I didn’t have space from with not having transportation etc and I didn’t feel it was a good environment for either of us.
I ultimately decided to take up and offer from my ex boss to come back to LA to work / live with him. I took the offer and planned to begin work immediately and send help for my brother as he was in even worst position with no housing, no hotel.
Upon returning, I asked my older sister to pick me up from airport for comfort despite our horrible past and me ending our relationship due to essentially it not being healthy for me. I text my boss after landing that I am out running errands, though it was 10pm it was true my sister wanted to go to the grocery market which was open.
Though he is my boss we are friends as well so I didn’t think this would be a problem. A few hours later I text – no response, I have to sleep at my sisters and she seems upset about it ( we don’t have a healthy relationship ).
The next day I get no response. I call and my boss / friend sounds unlike I’ve ever heard him – angry, unforgiving, insulting – and says I’m on my own. Mind you, he is going through his first divorce and COVID affected work, so it is not a normal time for him.
I felt it was unreasonable as I flew out to work and stay with him and now stranded in the city. After weeks of stress, having to stay with my sister and stress her out with my unexpected stay, he agrees to let me move in with him.
Oh – and surprise mention – I find out I am nearly 5 months pregnant with a one time event that I literally unfortunately did for finances in desperation when I was renting the room with the unstable younger roommate.
So now I am in LA, pregnant, and living with my boss – though now he discusses we will hardly be working together but I can stay here. I call to plan an appointment for termination as I had no money, barely housing staying with boss, and not ready essentially.
I tell my boss and he freaks out. He pays for expensive ultrasound in the middle of the night at a clinic to confirm. He says I should terminate or simply have it and go back to the state with the father who I really didn’t know. I decide to terminate but the next day he is going on a trip out of state. He tells me I can’t stay there any longer, and brings up my marijuana smoking which I unfortunately increase briefly in times of stress but it has never been a problem, simply I was not able to begin work with the constant moves / needing to handle the pregnancy. Anyway I see a side again I have never seen, as if he hates me and doesn’t trust me at all. It was hurtful and so I just called my sister and left to her house.
My sister was very unhappy about me being there but I assured her I could find a place or even rent an Airbnb. She says no, just stay and save and work. I have the operation and she has no empathy towards me. I never speak of my symptoms or the termination and she says “you make everything about yourself” as I sit with the loss of a child and in pain physically while saying nothing about it.
It then becomes horrible daily as we share her studio and she takes out her depression / aggression on me. It was multiple events and comments and her kicking me out multiple times ( while I’m still healing ) from her mood and ultimately saying “I had depression and didn’t give a **** how I treated anybody”, and her actions towards me reflected that. Everyday it felt she hated me, pushed me around, then pointed the finger – I could never speak up. I just tried to save and do my best to find a place.
After almost two months staying with her on and off ( she would kick me out randomly, welcome me back, and do it again ), I return home happy to hangout and have some St Patrick’s day relaxation. When I get back to her studio I send her a friendly text if she wants to get together, she texts back she’s having a mental breakdown and needs space.
I start to cry as I feel her mental breakdowns result in her accusing me of something “you make everything about you” etc. I feel it will result in her being upset / irritable and even majorly passive aggressive or just random rude comments when she’s not happy.
5 minutes later after she texted me she needed space for her mental breakdown – and me returning to her studio, she returns and is completely fine. She says she feels better and asks why I’m crying. I say because she says she’s having a mental breakdown and I don’t know how to help / it’s overwhelming.
She immediately becomes defensive and says she can’t even express her own emotions if she’s having a down day without me taking it personal, etc etc etc.
For me she makes it personal when she is having a down day. It’s not simply a day of her venting – it becomes a day of aggression directed at me.
So I just say ok I’m sorry I’m going to go for a walk and I love her. She says she thinks it’s best I move out ( knowing I have no where to go and here constant up and down affecting my location, thus not working / nothing saved up to pay for a place ). I say okay.
I go for a walk and on my way back her car is stalled in the middle of the street of her studio – she calls me and frantically asks if we can talk. I say it’s fine I will leave today – she says no she wants to talk about me staying. I walk to her car and we chat. She says all of the problems of the month are little to do with her own state of mind but because we are in a small space – studio. And that she is moving to a one bedroom and I can join her, and that it will be 100% better because we have the space.
For me, the last two months with her were so traumatic and just from my perspective an unwell person with high animosity toward me at times taking it out on me. It didn’t sound appealing to me I told her I would think about it.
I left to my friends for the night and asked if she wanted to drive me in exchange for money, and a small gift, not because I needed the ride – but as a way to leave for the night in a friendly manner. She agrees so we leave and chat and have a good drive.
The next morning I awake to paragraphs of her saying I cannot move in with her and should move my things asap. It was just so bizarre but I was over being a fawn to her mental instability and thus, emotional toxicity. I said ok, I love her and will move my things within a week.
Anyway fast forward into the week and I’m trying to secure a room in an apartment with bad credit and weak current work income, not an easy process. I find two and have a hard time deciding between. I ask her, as she’s my big sister, if I can have her advice between the two. When I tell her I’m moving she freaks out and exclaims I have a marijuana addiction and should move into a homeless shelter – one her church operates and she constantly would send me links. It makes me think she doesn’t want to see me working and in a good position, as I have always been in a better position per se financially, with housing, lifestyle, etc. and now while I simply have work and housing issues, some connected to her, she exclaims it’s not possible for me and I should just seek treatment for marijuana.
I have smoked marijuana on and off for a few years – medically. Initially for sleep help working the night shift, and then I simply enjoyed it socially or before yoga. Under this stress with the housing I tend to smoke more as I have a higher level of stress and not my usual coping mechanisms ( my own nice space to decompress – do yoga, meditate, journal, focus on myself and work ) – it’s just been others moods.
Additionally, my sister struggles with quitting marijuana, something I don’t have an issue with. I have weened myself off multiple times – it is like coffee to me. For right now I reason I don’t deserve the stress and it doesn’t help come up with better solutions so I smoke a little more. I still take care of my health, etc. Meanwhile my sister struggles to take care of her health, work, maintain peace or happy lifestyle and to stop smoking marijuana. It seems like a projection for her to accuse me.
Anyway, I made the decision to move into a less desirable apartment situation vs one more aesthetically pleasing / with roommates who seemed healthy and with similar interests, because the 1st apartment was in a safer area. It’s been two days since I moved and I feel uneasy about my roommate already. She does have high anxiety but I find it hard to be trusting even when my guard is down, I feel her anxious nature leads me to feel distrustful. The power was off last night, so I had to leave to a friends. I don’t feel she’s in a healthy or responsible state if the power is being shut off after moving in a roommate and it’s her responsibility. I’ve only given her rent + 1/2 deposit, negotiating to pay full by the end of the week.
Despite the location being nice, the uneasiness I feel makes me wonder if I should check if the 2nd apartment is available – and simply move out this week and negotiate that move out with her keeping the rent for the month + 1/2 deposit.
The 2nd apartment seems a healthier environment in the house ( roommates in a better place emotionally ? ) and it is bright / modern more natural light which I find motivating.
I wonder if I should just stick with it, as it’s a 6 month lease and I’ve signed though not sure the papers are turned in just yet ( sublease ), work for 6 months and make it work, hope the power is back on – and then move somewhere more suitable, or just vacate now and try the other place though the neighborhood is far and apparently not as safe for walking though it may not be a big deal to me.
It’s important I’m in a place I feel safe, can trust my roommates, and can work on my personal things without roommate drama – and the power off, anxiety stuff is kind of drama to me rather than waking up with roommates who are stable in their day / mood.
I want to give her a chance, I’ve only been moved in two days, but it’s been such a drain when I feel I should feel relieved to have a room finally.
What should I do?
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Bun. Reason: Copy / paste issues from my iPhone
April 6, 2022 at 3:56 pm #397180AnonymousGuestDear Bun:
You are welcome, thank you for your appreciation, good to have you back here!
“In my last post before this one, there is a very detailed comment / response on the timeline of my last few years highlighting my top stressful situations and the thought processes behind it all” – that was my post to you on January 13, 2021, going over what you shared in your threads, starting in May 2017 to January 2021.
“In my last post, January 2021, I was conflicted to move out of my friend and her brother’s house, and in with my mother. After I made the post, my laptop broke, my phone broke – I had no connection and was in my friend’s home where I didn’t feel comfortable, so I simply fixed my phone and called for my mother and moved in with her. Clicking back on my last post I see I missed a vital response of advice that had I taken ‘do not move in with your mother or anyone whom you had bad experiences’” – that was the advice I gave you back in Jan 13, 2021.
“From there you would not imagine the destruction that has taken place on my time. My mother was very unwell and sparing details would have blow-outs and make efforts to incarcerate my brother and I for various things. I talked to police multiple times, and she called multiple times, they simply said it was a family matter… I became upset one day as she insulted my brother calling him ‘POS’. He is older than me but fragile from her abuse as he spent longer growing up with her. I could not take it and I told her to leave him alone. She exploded, insulted me calling me disgusting – my own mother, left the house, came back with police, a scratch on her forehead and told the police I had scratched and forced her out of the house. Though my brother was a witness this still resulted in me going to jail (traumatic), having to be bonded out, and now having my record smeared with a false battery charge” – you moved in with your mother and that was a big mistake.
“So, after that I was staying in hotels with my brother. We were in hotels for 4 months together, then split up after a silly argument in which he said, ‘I don’t need you’… I finally rented a cheap room somewhere in town… living with a young guy who had drug issues… I ultimately decided to take up and offer from my ex-boss to come back to LA to work / live with him. I took the offer… I call and my boss / friend sounds unlike I’ve ever heard him – angry, unforgiving, insulting – and says I’m on my own…. After weeks of stress, having to stay with my sister and stress her out with my unexpected stay, he agrees to let me move in with him. Oh – and surprise mention – I find out I am nearly 5 months pregnant with a one-time event that I literally unfortunately did for finances in desperation when I was renting the room with the unstable younger roommate.
“So now I am in LA, pregnant, and living with my boss… I tell my boss and he freaks out… He tells me I can’t stay there any longer… After almost two months staying with (sister) on and off (she would kick me out randomly, welcome me back, and do it again )… she texted me she needed space for her mental breakdown… She says she thinks it’s best I move out ( knowing I have no where to go… Anyway fast forward into the week and I’m trying to secure a room in an apartment with bad credit and weak current work income, not an easy process…
“Anyway, I made the decision to move.. with roommates who seemed healthy and with similar interests… It’s been two days since I moved and I feel uneasy about my roommate already. She does have high anxiety… I feel her anxious nature leads me to feel distrustful… Despite the location being nice, the uneasiness I feel makes me wonder if I should check if the 2nd apartment is available – and simply move out this week… The 2nd apartment seems a healthier environment in the house ( roommates in a better place emotionally?)… It’s important I’m in a place I feel safe, can trust my roommates, and can work on my personal things without roommate drama… I’ve only been moved in two days, but it’s been such a drain when I feel I should feel relieved to have a room finally. What should I do?” –
My advice: stay where you are just long enough for you to find a place to rent on your own, no roommates; be it the smallest studio apartment… but alone. The “roommate drama” of which you are afraid, it is likely to happen even if your roommate is as nice as can be because you bring drama to your life. I agree with you that your mother and sister are unwell and cause drama… but so do you. Why do I believe this is true?
Because in January 12, 2021, you shared that you had a friend since you were 12, we referred to her as E, the daughter of Christian parents, a pastor’s daughter. E’s parents invited you to move to their home when you were 15 because of your troubled life with your mother. When you were 18, still living with E’s parents’ home, E’s mother complained that a friend of yours and of E’s was spending too much time in the house. You then argued with the generous, kind woman who opened her home to you for years, telling her: “I am closer to god than you are..”! She then kicked you and the friend out of the house.
E’s mother had the right to be displeased about who spends time in her home. You as her guest, had no right to confront her about what was none of your business. It was E’s mother’s business who spends time in her house, not yours! It was very ungrateful and rude of you to confront her and insult her… and it was definitely unnecessary drama that you created.
I bring this up because if you keep thinking that it is always the case that other people bring drama to your life, you will never give yourself the opportunity to confront your own drama causing behaviors. You shouldn’t live again with your mother (who creates lots of drama) or with your sister… or with your brother… or with an ex-boss/ friend… or with anyone, until such a time when on your part, you no longer create drama.
anita
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April 6, 2022 at 6:20 pm #397189BunParticipantAnita,
Thank you for your response and the welcome back.
I appreciate and look forward to your always balanced, and patient responses.
I agree that I should stay. I will look into my own place, though I have had amazing roommate experiences previously, in the last few years.
I am shocked to read that I bring the drama as I try everyday to meditate, practice yoga, mindfulness and be as kind as I can be myself.
I agree that my response to E’s mother was ungrateful. But that was over 7 years ago, and in retrospect I always felt bad about that moment and had the chance to apologize to her in person. I was a teenager and viewed her as my mother, nonetheless, crossed the line and I don’t disagree with her giving me the boot in the house per se.
However I have grown a lot since my teenage years. I was known as a peaceful person. Once my sister saw me reading tiny Buddha and said “that’s what you are”.
I feel the past few years I try my best but when faced with any kind of instability in another, due to me relying on them for housing since I left my apartment in 2019. From there I went to Indonesia and had an amazing healing, spiritually educational experience and felt very balanced. Arguments are not a common thing in my life – I like peace.
From there I stayed with my brother, moved with E and her brother, then my mother, and since then have been struggling with housing due to the chaos created from my personal relationships – in which I was reliant for housing this last year.
I feel I bring the drama in response. Which is not right but a lot of the behavior from others that I needed to stay with the last year hasn’t been normal.
Still, I want to understand how I may be bringing the drama even if it is not in my intention, spirit, or awareness ( every time I react, another has been exploding – it’s not right but I see in those moments. I don’t yet see any scenarios / drama I created in the recent past. Simply feels I am responding ).
So I will take the advice, begin work, saving, and secure my own place after 6 months. I do hope I can see how I bring the drama as I just feel I didn’t leave enough insight. I’m not perfect, but I don’t start arguments. When it becomes bizarre I am overwhelmed and overreact
now I have moved so I don’t need to associate with my mother or sister or feel indebted to the moods of anyone because I am staying for free ( as in the past year ish ).
thank you for your response. If you can help me understand more about the drama, please do. I hope to grow and learn and never bring negativity, but I feel that is my nature without such serious daily bizarre relationships.
thank you
bun 💚
April 6, 2022 at 8:21 pm #397193AnonymousGuestDear Bun:
You are welcome. I will be back to your thread in about 10 hours from now and reply then.
anita
April 7, 2022 at 6:38 am #397204HelcatParticipantHi Bun!
I don’t think that you bring drama, but you are currently dealing with traumatic life experiences.
Good people would treat people going through these circumstances with respect and kindness.
I’m sorry for the hardship you are experiencing and that your family are treating you poorly. I hope that your circumstances improve soon so you are able to leave.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by Helcat.
April 7, 2022 at 11:56 am #397211AnonymousGuestDear Bun:
This will be a long and detailed reply. I will boldface quotes from what you shared on this April 2022 thread and use regular print for quotes from your previous May 2017- January 2021 threads. I will italicize here and there for emphasis:
“I will look into my own place, though I have had amazing roommate experiences previously, in the last few years” –
In your various threads you did not describe a single good, let alone amazing experience living with anyone, be it a roommate, a friend, a boyfriend or a family member. You wrote back on January 2021: “I wish I could just live alone. Living with others I feel constantly their toy and needing to please them when I am just a human who can only handle so much” – living with others has not worked out well for you.
“I will look into my own place” – good plan.
“I went to Indonesia and had an amazing healing, spiritually educational experience and felt very balanced” – this is not at all what you shared in your December 2019 thread titled: “I am miserable at my yoga teacher training”. Notice the word “miserable” in the title of that thread; it is quite opposite to the word “amazing“.
In your Dec 2019, thread, you shared: “I… thought taking a yoga teacher training abroad would help. I got on the plane… Week one is done, and I feel my entire spirit has left my body… I feel bad energy from the girls here… constant mingling drained me… a roommate- who further drained me… mostly she talks about herself and problems nonstop like a narcissist conversationalist… The group is about 12. I like 3 – the rest seem egotistical, self-involved… very judgmental, and a lot of egos… for dinner they run like vultures leaving little food left for me … Brutal schedule of being around low energy people 24.7… here (Bali, Indonesia) …Being judged for being black, or apparently a lesbian- which also drains my spirit totally. The yoga instructor said ‘I am not here to help you; I am just the yoga teacher’ when I brought up my struggles with this… Now we clearly have animosity. It got so bad I missed class, and asked to be placed in my own room... I feel this experience has sucked the light out of my body – the girls, the lack of sleep, the lack of alone time to focus on my mediations and goals… I feel drained, misunderstood, like negativity is being sent my way with the stares and treatment from the girls and locals. 3 weeks of the course left here. I have no positivity left in me. I feel sadness, anger, EXHAUSTED, disconnected from my soul, thoughts, judged for my skin color- and like I also need probiotics that I cannot get here”-
– Maybe the 3 weeks that followed the first miserable week were better, but in your next thread five months later, May 2020, you shared nothing about healing. Instead, you shared about having had “hectic months”, following the Indonesia experience. Notice, you used the word hectic, which is the opposite of very balanced: “After some hectic months, I decided moving … I have only been moved in a few weeks…I’m having a panic attack feeling I can’t breathe from their aggression and judgement“, May 2020.
In January 2021, and in April 2022, you shared that after you returned “to LA from over a month of learning and healing in Indonesia”, you moved in with your sister (“there is tension in the house”). Next, you moved to an apartment complex (“It caused lots of stress“). Next you stayed with a guy friend (“I get into argument with him”). Next, you moved to your brother’s house (“I feel a buildup of stress being at my brother’s daily… I start to think- I should just move. I can’t take it”).
Next you flew to New York, to stay with a man you “didn’t know well, but more so online”, but left after he allowed “orgies in the living room”. Next, you flew to a female friend’s apartment but felt stress there as well (“Since arriving I can’t help but have negative aspects of her personality… drinking, other kind of drugs”). Next you moved in with your mother and brother. Your mother “made efforts to incarcerate my brother and I… exploded… left the house, came back with police… resulted in me going to jail, having to be bonded out, and now having my record smeared with a false battery charge“, April 2022. Next, you stayed in hotels with your brother for 4 months, split “after a silly argument“.
Next you stayed in hotel rooms by yourself for 4 more months. Next, you rented a room with a guy who was on drugs, and you got pregnant by him. Next, you flew to Los Angeles, and stayed for a while with a male friend who was your boss at one time (“he freaks out… He tells me I can’t stay there any longer“). Next you stayed with your sister who repeatedly kicked you out and took you back in (within that turmoil, you terminated your pregnancy), and next and currently, in the last 3 days, you’ve been living in an apartment with a roommate, but stress is already there: “I feel uneasy about my roommate already. She does have high anxiety, but I find it hard to be trusting even when my guard is down“, April 6, 2022.
* In all these moves… where are the “amazing roommate experiences“?
“If you can help me understand more about the drama, please do. I hope to grow and learn and never bring negativity” – it is impossible for me to help you understand more about the drama when I can’t rely on the truthfulness of what you share. But here are a few of my understandings, nonetheless, following my study of your threads since 2017:
1) You often expressed an optimistic, light and friendly attitude, but you have suffered long-term from depression, social isolation and feelings of loneliness (“I woke up feeling like sh**, again. It’s quite repetitive and I’m just like OK hey sadness, f*** you too. Now I’m going to continue my day”, Dec 2017; “I am always trying to think optimistic”, Nov 2018; “I don’t really have a support system in my life. I don’t have close family, and only one close friend really… most of my time is spent entirely alone… I do feel lonely, and honestly feel just having oneeee person would help…I feel all of this time without true human connection has dampened my spirit… I am 21, I have never had a boyfriend mostly casual hook ups”, April 2018; “When I first arrived, I wanted friends badly… despite my best efforts I didn’t grow close with anyone…. No positive social interactions or meeting new people/friends”, Nov 2018; “I just haven’t felt happy… not having close friends… I am usually alone so I don’t usually have someone to go with”, April 2019.
2) When you are around people, again and again, you feel stressed, and the living situation ends badly, examples: “some of my distress comes from my roommate/ apt. situation”, Dec 2017; the Dec 2019 Indonesia experience, and the many failed living situations with people since.
3) You believe that you have bad luck: “I was plagued with bad luck… a constant string of bad luck, back-to-back… It just feels like I was just dealt bad cards but why?”, March 2018, “What invisible force is working against me?… Things kept happening where I would meet just bad people… It just seems like everything is purposely getting in my way, throwing me off… am here, thinking positive, putting in effort- so why do I keep getting tripped up? What’s with the bad luck?”, Nov 2018.
My closing thoughts: I have no doubt that you had bad luck having been born to the people you were born to, and into the circumstances you were born into. (I had bad luck in this regard myself). But now, that you are an adult in your mid-twenties, you have the option of making better choices so to make a better life for yourself. You don’t have to remain a victim of people and circumstances. You can take charge of your life, as much as it is possible for you to take charge.
To take charge, you need to live alone while attending quality psychotherapy in which (1) you’ll be honest when sharing about your life, (2) you’ll gain insight into your childhood, into your family relationships, and into your part in creating your adult life-circumstances and experiences so far, (3) learn emotion regulation skills so to avoid impulsive choices and behaviors, as well as communication and assertiveness skills so to minimize your stress when around/ living with people and so that you can get along well with other people.
With honesty, insight and the building of these skills, you will be able to create the support system that you need, form and maintain close relationships with new people in your life (people you’ll get to know and evaluate); you will enjoy more and more “positive social interactions”, and you will finally experience the “true human connection” that you longed for, for so long, no longer usually alone, lonely and sad.
anita
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