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December 17, 2016 at 5:03 am #122923VisheshParticipant
Hi all,
This is the first time I am posting on a public forum and I thought maybe I can share my emotions here in the hope of finding good people and advice.
About an year ago I underwent a traumatic experience after reading and watching videos and books of horrible violence committed during world war 2. I have been a spiritual seeker and after undergoing that experience I was trying to calm myself down by watching some positive spiritual video online, during which the teacher (Eckhart) said something which retraumatized me. In normal circumstance it would never have mattered but since I was already under great deal of distress, I became very anxious and depressed. I had to go to a shrink who diagnosed me with PTSD and traces of OCD. I have been on anti-depressants since then and have recovered a lot, with some bad patches in between. There is still a feeling of fear and unease which is because of the memory of the trauma I experienced. Even though I was not strictly meditating and at that time only watching a positive spiritual video, somehow that worry that I underwent trauma while meditating and what it means for my life has grown over me, and when I try to meditate I get the same fear triggered in me. Sometimes I am aware of the completely illogical nature of my worry, but it’s not easy to get rid of it, and it causes me periods of anxiety and sometimes depression.
This worry has been part of me for about 5-6 months, and even though I have made progress in healing, I seem to be stuck with this fear. I have been very lucky so far in terms of having a great and caring family, a good and satisfying job which I love and great friends, for which I am grateful. But this worry, fear and unease sometimes tends to cover up all these good things about me and focus my attention on one bad experience, which makes me frustrated. I hope to be one day be completely over this experience and be able to enjoy life to my fullest potential.
Cheers and thanks in advance for your advice:)
December 17, 2016 at 5:17 am #122924Nina SakuraParticipantHello,
I would like to know more if thats fine. What exactly is your worry? What are the thoughts and how are they related to the reality you are living through?
Regards
NinaDecember 17, 2016 at 5:46 am #122925VisheshParticipantHi Nina,
Thanks for your reply 🙂
My worry is that am I damaged by this experience and it would take a lot to recover from it. I am also worried that I may have done meditation wrong and the impact could have been high because of it. Just thinking about it makes me anxious and feel insecure.Somehow the calm place I expected to find through meditation and spirituality was taken away from me, and what remained was insecurity and fear.
December 17, 2016 at 8:06 am #122929AnonymousGuestDear Vishesh:
I am trying to understand and hope you can help me:
1. You wrote: “About an year ago I underwent a traumatic experience after reading and watching videos and books of horrible violence committed during world war 2”-
The “traumatic experience” you are referring to, what was it? Are you referring to FEELINGS you had while watching the WW2 videos and reading the books?
2. Then you wrote: ” I was trying to calm myself down by watching some positive spiritual video online, during which the teacher (Eckhart) said something which retraumatized me.”-
Reads to me like you are referring to a second traumatic experience, FEELINGS you had while watching a video. Correct?
3. As a result of feelings you had while reading books and watching movies you developed anxiety and PTSD which you didn’t have before, is this correct
anita
December 17, 2016 at 8:47 am #122931Nina SakuraParticipantDear Vishesh
Okay thanks for writing back, actually am not super clear about what was it related to what you read, saw that triggered you? As Anita asked, was it feelings or a thought about the world in general? Did you see about the jews, the Japanese etc? Also what did the teacher say that “re-traumatized” you? Like what was the basic “thought” behind it ? Was it the horrors of the visual, was it this feeling that humanity is doomed etc?
That’s the bit I am not understanding. Can you explain bit more?
Regards
NinaDecember 17, 2016 at 10:35 am #122938VisheshParticipantHi Anita,
Thanks for replying. The answer to the first question is yes, I had been reading and watching the history of WW2 and the crimes committed by the Nazis, and it triggered a panic attack one night. I could not get rid of the images I had seen and read about. The answer to the second one is also yes, Eckhart mentioned something about children which reminded me of the horrifying things I had watched and read about. And yes, I have never had any feeling of such intense anxiety I felt.
Nina,
The basic thought behind it was that Eckhart said something about being present here and now, and said children feel that presence when they are very young. I got traumatized at this point, imagining about the horrors which were committed at the civilians during that war and how it would feel to undergo that horror.The thought behind it was that I am not even safe in the “now”, since those horrors were committed in the present moment. I know it all sounds confusing when I put it like this 🙂 It was a sense of doom at a personal level, I have never doubted the good in humanity, and I have always been very optimistic about what great things humans can achieve. I didn’t want to fall this way, I want to be a good human being. When I am not anxious and depressed, I try to be the best person I can be, I think I am even gentler than before, more loving towards my family, since I have been through tough times I have realized how much I love them and want to be with them.
Those images of horror are gone, and I am left with the memory of the event; did I reach a wrong conclusion during meditation? Can I reverse the effect of it? Even now I get nervous and anxious when I try to relax. It also gives me a sense of failure in my spiritual journey, so there is a sense of disappointment.
December 17, 2016 at 11:03 am #122939AnonymousGuestDear Vishesh:
I think I understand. I am very familiar with those images as I watched them too (Nazis, WW2). Some stuck to my brain and I see them as I type this.
When you heard the talk about living-in-the-now you got real scared because you thought: those victims in WW2, their NOW was deadly and involved so much pain, this means MY NOW can also involve as much pain and be deadly.
The fear was in you before you watched the WW2 videos, I believe. Because it is in everyone. It was triggered and magnified in the form of that first panic attack you had.
I suggest competent psychotherapy to deal with the old and new fears.
Your fear, as I understand it, about experiencing unimaginable pain in the Now, this fear- I share it too. I feel it right now as I am typing this. What I do, is I noticed it, just noticed how it felt, the heat in the face, the shallow breathing, and I just breathed deeper.. and again. Strangely, I feel hunger. I will post this and make myself breakfast. And so it goes.
Post anytime, if it helps you.
anita
December 17, 2016 at 11:05 am #122941Nina SakuraParticipantDear Vishesh,
I think I partially understand it now. I don’t want to undermine what you are going through in any way but then consider this – Has any of this happened to you? Could you consider reading Victor’s Frankls book “Man’s search for meaning”? He wrote this book when he was in a concentration camp and faced the most horrific situations possible. However he survived. I read about many survivor stories, the Schindler Jews too for example. I read the answers written by a woman who was experimented on along with her twin by Melenge. She is an elderly lady now and described a time where she was fighting hard to live somehow. Yes she is scarred in every way as a child but her spirit is not broken.
Life isn’t sunshine and rainbows. There is much horror that has happened and is happening in this world. There is a terrible war in Syria, unspeakable horrors in Africa, such awful things now – 20 million perished under Stalin, then there was Khymer Rouge, even in India, millions died during famine.
You are right. There is much bad even now but my question to you is ” is this happening to you? ”
How is feeling for them and getting so emotional helping you? How is it helping your contribution in any way ?The purpose of meditation is to teach your mind to focus, be an observer – calmness is an after-effect rather. You have a fixated belief that the effect is set in stone. There is nothing like that. You are the one controlling you at the end of the day. I suggest you try some of Sadhgurus videos on YouTube.
https://www.innerengineering.com/online/blog/take-a-deep-breath-meditation-for-anxiety-relief
There is a meditation manual explained by the Ramakrishna Mission too – check out Vivekanda Samitis videos especially by Sarvapriya Nanda.
I do understand your distress. I experienced this too when I saw some disturbing things as a child especially and a while back as an adult. However, the mind is capable of being regulated and Vedic scripture particularly emphasizes this, so does modern psychology. Here you have a choice.
I apologise if I came off as harsh in any way. Please dont think of spiritual journey in black and white terms. It is something that takes years of sadhna and this is true even for monks, priests. The whole idea is to learn to be really present and focused. You have not failed. You are simply in a particular stage and must learn from a good teacher.
These experiences happen during an anxiety disorder. The disorder arises when this dark cloud becomes a regular storm disrupting the ongoing of daily life. However, mood is like weather. It changes, there is a feedback cycle too. Your thoughts are reversible with the right help. You sound like a very positive person and can surely overcome this.
Do check out this video – I hope everyone else here will offer a different perspective too.
Regards
NinaDecember 18, 2016 at 2:29 am #122960VisheshParticipantThanks for taking your time to write such insightful posts Anita and Nina. I am just going through a rough patch and what you’ve told me will surely help me. And you were not too harsh with me, I am very receptive to what you told me. And yes, I have a copy of “Man’s search for meaning” in my bookshelf, and I will finish it.
Thanks again for your kind words 🙂 I will conquer my anxiety and become a better person in the end.
December 18, 2016 at 8:29 am #122962AnonymousGuestDear Vishesh:
In the post before last you wrote: “I have never doubted the good in humanity, and I have always been very optimistic about what great things humans can achieve. I didn’t want to fall this way, I want to be a good human being. When I am not anxious and depressed, I try to be the best person I can be…” and in your last post you wrote: ” I will conquer my anxiety and become a better person in the end.”
I have a comment: I don’t doubt that indeed many humans have been and are cruel to others. It is reality. If we blind ourselves to this reality, we increase our suffering. If I blind myself to this reality, it doesn’t make me a good person, it makes me an ignorant person.
When you believe people are capable of cruel acts, it doesn’t make you a bad person. It makes you a realistic person.
Post anytime.
anita
December 19, 2016 at 12:10 am #123001VJParticipantHi Vishesh,
Yes, it appears to be a scenario of PTSD.
EFT Emotional Freedom Technique (also called as Tapping) is very effective for PTSD and is definitely going to benefit you.
Even war veterans who were actually in the war situation have been using EFT and healed of their traumatic situations.
Please do a web search on EFT for PTSD and post back if you need any info.Best Wishes,
VJ -
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