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    Hi all,

    First let me say, how wonderful is it that there are people who answer questions and offer support with honesty and care. That’s wonderful. I’ll write some backstory that is optional to the question below.

    How do you truly release the ego and truly love yourself?

    *BACKSTORY, NOT NEEDED*

    I hid behind my ego (driven by fear) and had so much success, that fear of failure became a monstrosity of a force that drove my life. Never wanting to disappoint my teammates, i would work as hard as possible at practice or on my own and I became very successful. Never wanting to disappoint my parents, i worked hard in university to achieve grades that would allow me to obtain an amazing job. Never wanting to disappoint my bosses, i worked hard to take on new tasking and succeed. I worked so hard to not disappoint, it took the sweetness out of all my accomplishments because they were accomplished to reach the next goal, to keep climbing the success totem pole, wherever the top was, i would never know. I was truly successful at most everything I ever tried (and more importantly, I may have limited myself to only things I was good at) until I was unable to keep up with my demands. Once the “work hard” method began to fail, than I began to fail. My work projects were slowing down due to circumstances beyond my control. I went from shit-hot to working on a project that was on life support and I projected the success of that project onto myself. This along with struggling with the idea that I must be the “perfect dad” for my new child and shit hit the fan. It wasn’t until I had a panic attack and sought the help of a therapist (hooray for therapy!) that I saw the logical fallacy of attributing self-worth with accomplishment.

    Having now realized how much my life was driven by fear and the desire to be perceived as perfect by myself and others, I’m having a hard time… adjusting 🙂 It’s been roughly a year since my panic attack, and although i have improved tremendously, I do not exude the confidence I had before. When I make a mistake at work, I beat myself up over it. Work stresses me out. I go from believing I have a dream job to being stressed out, simply after getting mind-fucked from the panic attack!

    I tell myself do not worry, but I do not truly believe. I still believe I need to be better than I am. I need to understand it is okay to be normal. However, I can’t release the ego completely. I am still afraid to be… normal.. to be… average.. to be……. human.
    Maybe that’s all I need after all.

    -The end 🙂

    Too Long Didn’t Read:

    Recovering Perfectionist had no clue he has achieved great success through his fear of failure, and through that awakening, realizes he wants to just be happy, but can’t stop ruminating on mistakes or the thought of letting down others. Recovering Perfectionist can’t minimize his anxiety without self-acceptance, but is having a hard time with self-acceptance. Pro-tips?

    #88398
    askingquestions
    Participant

    I also am a recovering perfectionist, and have been successful by hard work and fear, so I get that. I think I’ve been in recovery longer than you have, so I will tell you what helps me and you can take it for what it’s worth.

    First, it’s a process – I haven’t found a single activity or philosophy that made me able to accept myself at all times. But I don’t beat myself up nearly as often or for as long as I used to.

    Mindfulness meditation helps. It gets me _here_ and not projecting into the future or dwelling on the past. I (try to) start each day, before I even get out of bed, by spending a few minutes focusing on my breath and letting all the immediate “shoulds” running in my head go away for a little while. I try to remember to end my day before I go to sleep the same way. It’s a mindfulness sandwich for my day. In between I try to find 10 minutes to sit and meditate – sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn’t.

    I’ve recently discovered yoga is very good for me, too, once I found a class where the teacher stresses over and over that however you are today is just fine. It has been good for me to do something that I’m not particularly adept at (since I also usually avoid those things), and to be in a room with other people who are just doing what they can with what they have on that particular day. I’m sure there are yoga classes and places that are much more competitive but I’ve found a number that are so accepting of me and other people who are “worse” and “better” than me, that it helps me to accept me and them, too.

    Therapy is awesome, as you recognize. There are also books on Cognitive Behavioral therapy that can be helpful to deal with the on-going negative thoughts. With my extensive scientific background, I found Rick Hanson’s “Buddha’s Brain” helpful to get a grip on _why_ I’m like I am, and specific techniques for changing how I experience my life.

    If you like animals, spending time with them always helps me. My dog is short and usually well-behaved but sometimes he messes up. Despite his faults, he not only completely accepts and loves me for who I am, he completely accepts himself just the way he is, short legs and weak bladder and stubbornness and lovingness all at the same time. I’ve probably learned more about self acceptance and how that frees you to really love someone else from my animals than anyone else…

    The best thing you can do for your son is to show him that you accept yourself for yourself, and him for himself, and his mother for herself. I applaud you for starting on this journey.

    #88406
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear RecoveringPerfectionist:

    There is MORE to the journey of your healing and evolving. You started it, got on the path… and now, there is simply more. I think there is always more, that is the nature of living if you remain awake and aware.

    What is that MORE right now?

    The earliest experience you mentioned in trying to please your parents is working hard on getting good grades at university. Maybe the More i am referring to is going further back in your life, going back to the little boy that you were (and are) and how it was that you got the message that you are not good enough being you. How and where you got the message that you have to be an accomplished human doing to be of value to them and being a human being not valuable?

    I am thinking that getting more in touch with that hurt little boy, feeling his hurt, empathizing with him… that process, that next part of the journey will give you a sense of value in just being, being a human being. It is not a philosophical question or process- that takes you only that far. It is an emotional quest, to get in touch and be that little-boy-rejected.

    anita

    #88475

    @askingquestions thank you for the response. I have found meditation to be a calming experience and I’ll have to check out your suggested book. Great response and I appreciate it. The acceptance of myself for myself, for my child and for my wife was probably the hardest part of getting out of the initial depression after hitting my emotional rock bottom earlier this year. But boy was that step important.


    @anita
    thank you for your response. I thought about your response and basically what it comes down to is I grew up in a perfectionists home. Specifically, I don’t recall my dad being… affectionate. During my childhood, he was the dad that would come home, complain about work, and sit in his recliner and watch tv. There was always something to complain about. My parents were active in supporting my sister and I at sporting events and what not, I just picture my dad being a bit… emotionally colder than I would like. My least favorite time spent with him was working on vehicles in which he became very angry and upset if things weren’t going correctly and/or if I grabbed the wrong tools, or when i couldn’t help out enough because i was too weak or whatever the case may be. I remember walking away from helping out of frustration as I got older because I just hated all the ridicule. I learned to not listen.

    In a sense, our relationship isn’t the strongest probably because I’m not the man he thought I would grow up to be, in a sense. And the strangest thing of it all, is my parents thought I looked down on them, they thought I believed they were too redneck or not good enough because my wife and I were not going over to their house as often as we would go over to my wife’s parents house. We’re grown adults in our early 30’s with our first child….. so it was…. very interesting to see how they worked up this story that they weren’t good enough for us, and they told me about it, after my mom broke down crying at our house, in which we invited them over to hang out with us. My parents are perfectionists. My mom can’t be seen without make up and doing her hair. My dad is having health issues for the first time in which it is effecting his ability to function at the level he is use to. He seems bitter about it and it’s hard to be around him because you can just sense the tension and stress.

    If you asked me when I was 20, I would say i grew up in a “PERFECT (yes i would have said perfect)” home. In my 30’s, I now realize no home is perfect.

    The strangest thing is when i went over to my parents place about two months after my panic attack when I was dealing with anxiety AND depression, you know, the cry for no reason at all type of depression, no self acceptance. I told my dad that I was trying so hard to be perfect that once things were not going my way, out of my control, i had my panic attack and didn’t know how to deal with it all. My dad told me he believes that being a perfectionist is fine. Saw nothing wrong with it. I agreed to disagree with his thoughts that being a perfectionist is a good thing. It was just an odd response that I remembered.

    In the end, I still have room to grow and accept that, and that’s what keeps me happy. Initially I was determined, in 30 days I will not have Anxiety OR depression. I was use to setting goals and achieving them. Know what happened at day 30 when I was still having anxiety and depression? I got depressed! hah. I set myself up for that.

    I’m thankful to be where I am now emotionally and will continue to strive. Not for perfection, but for happiness and inner peace. There is more to life than money, work and what others think, and I am so glad that my panic attack episode has awaken me to a better life. I’m just in the rocky road portion of figuring out how to live without an ego, and just be happy.

    I’m all for gaining any more insight you all may have, thank you.

    #88477
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear RecoveringPerfectionist:

    It is funny, in a sad way, that your parents felt you thought they were not good enough, too redneck. the funny, sad thing is that as a child they, your father was EVERYTHING to you, god all mighty, and you wanted nothing more than his approval. It was not that he was not good enough (what a clueless, distorted thinking on their part)- it is that he was unquestionably perfect in your mind when you were a child. The message your father gave you when working on cars, when not paying loving attention to you otherwise, is that you were not good enough.

    You loved your father (and mother) completely, but your love did not make him happy, did not seem to reach him as he was distressed, unhappy day after day. He did not reach down to you and told you: my boy, I am so happy you are my son. I am so happy you are in my life.

    So, you focused on getting the right tools, so to speak, doing it right.

    I was wondering, you mentioned the (Buddhist) ego that you are trying to live without. I think it is impossible and there may be a trap there, in trying to accomplish the impossible. Can you explain what you mean by “ego”?

    anita

    #88478
    Anonymous
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    * More: there doesn’t have to be horrendous abuse for a child to grow up scared and alone. It is amazing to me, and so very sad, to realize how “little” it takes for a child to be so horrendously alone and afraid. It doesn’t take being locked in a closet or burned on a stove top or being sexually abused. All it takes is a father who doesn’t SEE the child, doesn’t VALUE the child’s love, doesn’t SEE how much the child needs the parent to notice… how much you needed your cold father to notice you. He came back from work day after day, complaining, unhappy and what you needed was a father coming back from work saying: where is my son? And looking in your eyes with a calm smile, happy to see you. And when you tried to please him in the thousands “little” ways that you did, you needed him to say: I see you love me, son. I see you are a loving little boy. I like you. You make me happy. I am happy to have you in my life.

    It doesn’t take headline grabbing abuse. It takes a boy’s love for his dad to go unnoticed.

    I don’t understand how a parent can be so blind, day after day, decade after decade and never get it.

    Please post more, if you will, and regarding the ego…
    anita

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