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May 8, 2017 at 7:58 pm #148569SamParticipant
I know I’ve posted similar questions like this in the past because honestly this is a pattern in my life. And sorry this is long.
I work with this guy. I had seen him around but we hadn’t talked much. I got transferred to his dept and so I saw him more and we began talking. It was very cordial at first but the more I saw him, the more we talked. I started to develop somewhat of a crush on him as he is very nice. I was also picking up on some vibes he was interested in me as well (playful flirting, him telling me he missed me when I took a couple days off work, etc).
I recently found out that I got accepted into a school I applied to last year and am moving across the country soon. I was sad honestly to tell him because I have enjoyed our conversations. He told me congrats but was really sad I was leaving and even joked he was going to cry every day now haha. We’ve continued to talk and honestly I started debating whether or not to just be forward and ask him out or something. I know it’s crazy as I’m leaving but maybe it just felt like there was less risk because I am leaving.
Long story short, he recently asked for my number. I knew it was a bad idea but I gave it to him anyway. We’ve been talking and I’ve enjoyed it even though I know it isn’t going anywhere. So anyway, he told me today that he just got out of a relationship. Like last week. And he’s upset about it (so it wasn’t his doing). I was honestly surprised because she was never once mentioned.
So I’m at the point where I’m thinking this whole thing was dumb. I’m moving and he’s clearly rebounding. I have no issue if he sees me as a rebound (because I’ve been there too). But I’m feeling sad/annoyed that he was in a relationship that whole time that I felt like he was being pretty flirty with me. I feel stupid that I’m upset about this. I honestly feel like something is wrong with me. I get attached so quickly. I also have bad anxiety so of course I’ve been reading into everything. Which is stupid because I’m leaving I know.
But I’ve been thinking about it a lot and I think I know what it stems from but I don’t know how to fix it. I’ve been working very hard for the past 2 years to get into this program. I have sacrificed a lot to do this. Obviously it has paid off which is exciting. But I’ve hardly dated. I will be honest and say that I am lonely. I miss having someone to cook dinner with or chat about how my day is going. In the past 2 years, I’ve been in similar situations and it always ends like this. I meet someone, I’m interested, it doesn’t work out when I knew it wasn’t and then I’m sad. I think I posted a couple years ago about meeting this guy on vacation and I was sad when it didn’t work out. I am old enough to know better on this. But honestly I think I’m just so lonely that I get attached to any decent guy who shows interest even if I know it won’t work out. And with this current guy, I do think he’s nice and attractive but he’s much younger than me and I don’t think we have much in common. But I know I liked the attention. It was nice going to work and knowing I’d see him and would ask about my day. And now that he has my number, it’s been so nice talking more.
I know this isn’t healthy at all. And I know I have to stop this. But I’m still so anxious and sad over the whole thing. I keep obsessively checking my phone to see if he’s texted and worrying what too much about what he says and what I say back. I know I’m going to end up hurt. What is wrong with me? How do I fix this?
May 9, 2017 at 10:29 am #148709AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
You asked what is wrong with you. The following is NOT what is wrong with you: “this whole thing was dumb…I feel stupid that I’m upset about this. I honestly feel like something is wrong with me. I get attached so quickly.”
You are not stupid and the fact that you got attached to this man- or to others before him- does not indicate that you are stupid or that there is something wrong with you.
You wrote: “I honestly feel like something is wrong with me. I get attached so quickly. I also have bad anxiety so of course I’ve been reading into everything”-
I think you get attached quicker than you’d like because you are significantly anxious. Feeling attached is like holding on to something and in so doing, avoiding a fall. When anxious, you need to hold on. It is not dumb to hold on to something when you feel like falling.
Also, you didn’t know that he was in a relationship throughout the time he flirted with you, so your attachment was based on assuming he was not in a relationship. If you knew, maybe you wouldn’t get as attached.
Does this help?
anita
May 10, 2017 at 2:55 pm #148957SamParticipantThank you for your response. The part you said about needing to hold on to something to avoid falling really resonated with me. I think I tend to hold on on to people in these situations. How do I go about finding something more healthy to hold on to?
May 10, 2017 at 7:24 pm #148967AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
It would be healthy to hold to a loving, reliable, dependable man when you have a relationship with one. It would be healthy to hold on to a friend who is caring, reliable, dependable. It is so important to have at least one person in one’s life that you can rely on, depend on, someone you can trust.
Other than a person worthy of your trust to hold on to, it helps for an anxious person to hold on to a routine, a daily routine. Again, a daily routine is something you rely on, to be the same every day. You can incorporate a daily walk for example, same every day.
Share more about your anxiety, the falling imagery that resonated with you, if you’d like, and I might get more ideas about what may help.
anita
May 11, 2017 at 5:47 am #148989jennParticipantanita and sam, hi! i’m new here,…. i’m liking the quotes page of this website,….
anyway, jumping into your conundrum,….
i believe a person shouldn’t be so flirty with a girl, especially since he was in a relationship,….
for me, i think since you are moving away,… treat this as an adventure, to change your lifestyle and to get away from this person,….
but i understand how it must feel like,…. being attached to somebody, i’ve been there before,…
what you need is to get into a good and healthy lifestyle, go for pilates or yoga classes, try to improve yourself even further,…. try to improve your anxiety that is causing you problems,….and most importantly sam, don’t beat yourself down,…. i’ve gone through there too and it’s so much better being at a place at peace….
err hope i helped,..! haha
May 11, 2017 at 8:17 am #149041SamParticipantThank you, Jenn! The good thing about being single these past few years is that I have been able to work on myself and I know I need to keep doing that.
Anita, I have been seeing a therapist for awhile and we have touched on a lot of this. She thinks (and honestly I agree) that I have abandonment issues from my mom dying. I am terrified of being left. Romantic relationship wise, I have had healthy ones and some not so healthy ones. I can see why I hold on so strong even though I know in some cases they aren’t that good for me. But I’m still not sure why I get attached in the first place. I’ve been thinking a lot about what you said but haven’t formed completely why it resonated with me. I have really great girlfriends and an amazing, supportive dad. But for some reason I crave those romantic relationships too.
I also really agree with your comment on routine. I do very very well with routine. My life has been crazy lately so maybe I need to focus more on getting back into routines (eating better, consistently going to the gym, etc). My therapist has also kindly recommended yoga and meditation but that is hard for me to do!
May 11, 2017 at 9:17 am #149045AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
I re-studied your posts on this thread. I understand you have abandonment issues (“I have abandonment issues from my mom dying. I am terrified of being left.”) and it makes sense: child’s attachment to the mother is very intense, naturally.
What I am looking at, at this point, is you giving yourself such a hard time for getting attached to a man who is not a good candidate for a romantic relationship (like the co worker this thread is about). Look at all the negative criticism you extend toward yourself (quotes and my paraphrasing them):
“I knew it was a bad idea but I gave it (your phone number) to him anyway” -I shouldn’t have given him my phone number!
“We’ve been talking and I’ve enjoyed it even though I know it isn’t going anywhere”- I shouldn’t have talked to him and I shouldn’t have enjoyed it!
“So I’m at the point where I’m thinking this whole thing was dumb”- I am dumb!
“I feel stupid that I’m upset about this”- I am stupid for being upset!
“I honestly feel like something is wrong with me”- there is something wrong with me!
“I get attached so quickly”- There is something wrong with me!
“I’ve been reading into everything. Which is stupid because I’m leaving I know”- I am stupid!
“I meet someone, I’m interested, it doesn’t work out when I knew it wasn’t”- I should know better!
“I know this isn’t healthy at all. And I know I have to stop this”- I need to stop doing what is wrong!
“What is wrong with me? How do I fix this?”- there is something wrong with me. I need to be fixed!
My question to you, putting aside your abandonment issues for now, what is the origin of this negative self criticism? When did it start and in what circumstances?
Also, if you’d like to answer: can you describe your past/ current relationship with your father?
anita
May 11, 2017 at 10:09 am #149065SamParticipantWe’ve discussed this in therapy too (my self criticism). I am an only child and while I believe I had a very good childhood, I think my parents (unintentionally) put a lot of pressure on me to succeed. I’ve always been hard on myself when it comes to getting good grades or doing well in sports. I have a hard time when I don’t do “well” (for example, getting a B in a class when I know I’m capable of an A). I am perfectionist and my anxiety does tend to come out when I fell like I can’t control a situation or be perfect in it.
My dad and I became closer when my mom died (I was 23). He is, without a doubt, the biggest motivator in my life. I believe he has always supported everything I wanted to do (like going back to school, for example).
Also, thank you for this. This conversation is extremely helpful!
May 11, 2017 at 11:09 am #149083AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
You are very welcome.
I would like to suggest a correction in the following thought you expressed: “I think my parents (unintentionally) put a lot of pressure on me to succeed”-
It makes sense to me that they intentionally put a lot of pressure on you to succeed. What they didn’t intend, most likely, is for you to be harmed by that pressure.
I suppose they believed that the pressure will motivate you to succeed and that success (material, professional) will make you happy. What they didn’t intend was for that pressure to cause you the anxiety that it has, and anxiety is always a de-motivator. It harms.
Your expectations of always getting an “A” and always performing perfectly otherwise is harmful to you in exactly the area you want to succeed. Not that you can ever perform perfectly on an ongoing basis, no matter the expectations. But you are more likely to err, to repeat errors and to not succeed with these expectations operating in your mind.
I hope that in therapy, you are working or will be working on this very thing: correcting your expectations so they fit reality. For as long as your expectations and core beliefs do not match reality, they will do you disservice.
Post again, anytime.
anita
May 12, 2017 at 7:57 am #149175SamParticipantYou are right – they intentionally put pressure on me to succeed but they did not mean for it to harm me in anyway.
I thought about this overnight. I’m wondering if me getting attached to certain men is related to this need for perfection. I’m thinking out loud and forming some initial thoughts but I wonder if in a way I see having someone or being a relationship as one step in perfectionism. I definitely strive to be perfect in other areas of my life (friends, work, school, diet, exercise). I know deep down that I don’t need a man to make me complete but I could see that in my perfectionist mind, having someone does complete what I think of as “perfect.” Maybe I hold on to people I don’t even think are that great because a relationship not working out is a sign of failure. So I will hold on even when I think things should end to avoid that. So when the guy ends things, I am crushed. This may be why I have so much anxiety about losing people. I don’t know – this is the first time I’ve really connected all of these things. What are your thoughts on this?
Unfortunately, with my move, I had to end things with my current therapist.
May 12, 2017 at 9:06 am #149185AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
You wrote: “I’m wondering if me getting attached to certain men is related to this need for perfection”- probably because there is nothing much, I figure, in your mind, and life that is NOT related to this need for perfection.
Basically, as I understand it, in your mind, it is either 100% (that A grade) or Nothing. Nothing less than a 100% is acceptable. And so, whenever you perform less than a 100% successfully, in any area, you feel that there is something wrong with you (title of your thread).
Is your life like walking a tightrope and any fall from perfection (100%) is a fall all the way down, a crushing fall?
In relationship, much of what happens has nothing to do with you (who the man is, his choices, his participation in the interactions with you), and yet, those things easily cost you that A grade. It is an impossible way to have a relationship and otherwise, to experience emotional well being.
Back to the title of your thread: “What is wrong with me?” My answer at this point is: believing that perfect success is possible and that there is something wrong with you for not making this impossibility your reality.
Let’s keep communicating, for as long as you’d like.
anita
May 12, 2017 at 9:29 am #149193SamParticipantYes to all of this! My life is all or nothing and to be quite honest, it’s exhausting! I am at the point where I am very aware of it and I would like it to change but I don’t know how to change it. I know I need to do more than being aware of it, although I think it is probably a good first step.
May 12, 2017 at 9:53 am #149201AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
The gradual increase of the awareness you currently have is the key to moving forward. The ongoing paying-attention, being mindful, makes more awareness possible. It takes time, a lot of patience with the process, and gentleness with yourself. Gentleness- not that pressure.
What is there more to be aware of: the things you say to yourself during the day before and during performing this or that task: self talk. And then, the distress (or calm) that follows that self talk.
The awareness you mentioned is like being aware of something like: I like flowers. The more- awareness I am referring to is like: I like white flowers early in the morning because they reflect the tiny bit of sun so brightly. I like the smell of roses. These flowers, better be cautious of the thorns that surround them. Look at those bees pollinating those flowers. Etc.
This ongoing awareness/ mindfulness cannot be achieved perfectly- so you got to remove (slowly, gently) the all-or-nothing/ perfectionism core beliefs and expectations from the practice of it.
anita
May 13, 2017 at 5:30 am #149289SamParticipantThank you, I will try this.
I have another question relating to my original post. So I’ve still been talking to this guy some. We have talked about meeting up before I leave but timing has been bad. Last night something just clicked where I started feeling annoyed with him. Like I said, I understand he is newly single and I was okay with being looked at as a rebound since I am leaving and he has been a nice distraction for me too. But last night I just felt like he was so different than the guy I was originally talking to and I know I just need to walk away from him. I think it would be healthy for me especially as I have a lot to do before I move.
My problem is that I don’t want to end it. And this goes back to hanging on to people I know I shouldn’t. I know I should say to him “I have enjoyed getting to know you but I am moving and you are clearly going through some things and it is clear you have no intention of seeing me before I leave so we should just end this.” But I still want to hold on to him. I hate the idea of having talked to him for this long and then never talking again. But I also know that our conversations are starting to cause me anxiety.
May 13, 2017 at 8:18 am #149293AnonymousGuestDear Sam:
I read your last post and re-read and studied all your posts on this thread this morning.
An observation: We all have our “Rational Mind”, our logic, and our “Emotional Mind”, our awareness of our emotions (I use emotions and feelings interchangeably), and what message they send us. My understanding is that your Rational Mind runs way ahead of your Emotional Mind, and so, you are trying to figure things without adequate and NECESSARY input of your emotions. Without that input, logic is ineffective, information is missing.
You wrote: “The part you said about needing to hold on to something to avoid falling really resonated with me.”
You wrote: “I’ve always been hard on myself when it comes to getting good grades or doing well in sports… I am perfectionist and my anxiety does tend to come out when I fell like I can’t control a situation or be perfect in it.”
My question: when you were a child, and you didn’t perform perfectly, what were your mother’s reactions? Your father’s? In other words, what were the consequences of you performing imperfectly? What did you lose, when you didn’t perform perfectly?
I think the Falling imagery that resonated with you is about living without that thing that you lost, as a child, when you performed imperfectly. I think you are still afraid of losing the same thing you already lost (afraid to lose more of it, to be left with none of it)
anita
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