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July 24, 2016 at 9:12 am #110404AnonymousGuest
Dear hangdo:
It seems to me, from reading his email, that he is a decent guy. This is a good thing. Now, let’s see what he communicated to you:
“the distance thing is an issue and it would not be fair to either one of us to split our heart a cross continents.”- this means he is not interested in a long distance relationship. Since you are living in Vietnam and he is living in the U.S., he is not interested in a relationship with you.
” I currently do have a girlfriend in the U.S., but she lives in my house”- this means he has a live-in girlfriend. And although he doesn’t see a future with her, that is, he believes his relationship with her will end, it did not end yet. He is currently in a relationship, not with you.
“As I told you before, I hate planning things and you even told me not to say anything or make promises that might become compromised.”- this means he is not planning to travel back to Vietnam, to meet with you again, in Vietnam or in the U.S., or elsewhere. He is not planning on seeing you again. It may happen, but he is not planning to see you again.
” I do not want to tell you, ‘ yes!, Let’s be in relationship,’ because it would not be fair to you. I’m sorry that you met me”- he is telling you: let us NOT be in a relationship. And he is sorry if this hurts your feelings.
” Like I said before, ‘you kill me,’ because my mind is so torn between what I want to do (be with you) and what I have to do ( go home and work hard to pay off my bills).” At the time, when he was physically with you he wanted to stay with you and not go home. To me, this does not mean he is still torn, present tense. It means he had a very good time with you before, in the past.
” I have a high sex drive and I like a lot of sexual things, but I think that you are very conservative sexually.” – I think he is pointing to a problem in his mind, that you and him are not sexually compatible: that he is adventurous that way and you are conservative. If so, this is a LACK of a motivation for him to be involved with you as a boyfriend/ girlfriend.
“I think we should keep in contact… We should not commit to anything, because we do not want to disappoint ourselves remember”- he wants you as an online friend but no indication of more.
“As you have said yourself, never rely on someone else. You are #1 and do what you have to do to get what you want.”- he is saying, I believe: Don’t rely on me. And he is wishing you the best in your life, your life separate from his.
“Wish you were here now”- means he would like it if you could magically appear in his location, so he can have some alone time with you. It does not mean he is willing to do anything at all to make it happen. He used the verb “wish”- like wishing-upon-a-star, a passive verb. No indication of being willing to do anything active to make it happen.
What do you think of my analysis so far of his email? Take your time contemplating it.
anita
July 24, 2016 at 9:23 am #110405Hang DoParticipantDear Anita,
Your analysis helps me a lot to reconsider our uncertain relationship. And I can see it is hopeless to develop our relationship. I am always unlucky in love and some relationships like this. I do not know what to do now. I am thinking of asking him to block my FB page then I can not hurt myself by seeing him with his gf. :((
July 24, 2016 at 9:37 am #110407AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
Luck has nothing much to do with it: when a young man is in your country for a vacation or a short visit, it is unlikely that a relationship will happen after the visit. It is possible, if the man is very shy, has a problem getting together with women in his own country. But for a sociable, confident-enough guy, it is simply unlikely and not a luck issue.
I am sorry you are disappointed. I understand. It seems to me that you are not interested in only an online-friendship relationship with him, is that so? Because it hurts you to see him with other girls?
You can ask him to block you from Facebook and yet continue communicating on your personal online account?
anita
July 24, 2016 at 9:45 am #110408Hang DoParticipantShould i send him this email?
” I agree with you that Facebook sometimes brings lots of problems; that’s why I’ve never posted any pictures of my exes there unless I finally find out my man. When you asked me to add your Fb, I did not want to really because I was afraid of what I did not expect to see. I was obsessed by the mornings i surfed Facebook and the news feed showed my bfs with other girls.
I remember what you said on your profile: sth like you do not expect jealously…I would be telling a lie, if I say I feel normal when seeing you with other girls. Why? because I am just only human, a normal girl and especially I like you a lot.
I thought if it possible we just give us a chance until you said you have a girlfriend and that you do love her. I would love to tell you that no matter what happen I always wish you to be happy with your choice.
If you can, just block my Facebook page, You do know the reason, right?”July 24, 2016 at 9:53 am #110410Hang DoParticipantWhat do you think about his sayings:” Even if you still talk to guys on that site that’s cool/ If you do decide to keep talking with guys on that dating site…” ? I felt like he does not want me to meet up other guys on that site. How will you analyze it?
July 24, 2016 at 10:15 am #110415AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
You mean you think he doesn’t want you to meet other guys through the dating site because he used the word “even” if “Even if you still talk to guys..”?
The word “even” may suggest he doesn’t like it or… that he wants you to think he doesn’t like it, but it is just one word. It cannot possibly cancel the rest of what he wrote, the rest of my analysis.
I think he experienced real feelings for you and when he thinks of you, he still has some feelings for you. He wrote it himself that he has genuine feelings for you. So the word “even” can fit with this fact as well as some other things he wrote. But these genuine feelings are not enough to negate his clear message that he is not interested in a relationship with you.
He is social enough and has a girlfriend… If he was very shy, lonely and had no contact with girls, then his experience with you could seem to him like his only chance for love. But this is not the case. He is likely already experiencing feelings for other girls or will soon.
anita
July 24, 2016 at 10:23 am #110416Hang DoParticipantI understand what you have just analyzed. Do you have suggestion for me to end up with him? should i send him the upper email? do you mind if you edit it or add some more ideas?
Thank you so much!July 24, 2016 at 10:40 am #110418AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
I think that if you are okay with having him as an online friend only, not on Facebook though (because that hurts you)- then be an online friend with him only.
If you are not interested in an online contact only because every time you will read an email from him, you will feel hurt or angry, then end the contact.
So which of the two is it…?
If you want to send me an email you are considering sending him, please do.
anita
July 24, 2016 at 10:45 am #110420Hang DoParticipantShould i send him this email?
” I thought if it possible we just give us a chance until you said you have a girlfriend and that you do love her. I would love to tell you that no matter what happen I always wish you to be happy with your choice. But i wonder why did you call her your ex when we met up?
I agree with you that Facebook sometimes brings lots of problems; that’s why I’ve never posted any pictures of my exes there unless I finally find out my man. When you asked me to add your Fb, I did not want to really because I was afraid of what I did not expect to see. I was obsessed by the mornings i surfed Facebook and the news feed showed my bfs with other girls.
I remember what you said on your profile: sth like you do not expect jealously…I would be telling a lie, if I say I feel normal when seeing you with other girls. Why? because I am just only human, a normal girl and especially I like you a lot.Besides there are lots of girls around you and you are so”friendly” to them i guess.If you can, just block my Facebook page, You do know the reason, right?”
July 24, 2016 at 11:46 am #110421AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
Before reading your last post it occurred to me, about this dating site where you met this guy (and the Irish guy as well?)
It doesn’t make sense for you (and other girls in Vietnam/ other countries in Asia) to start “dating” men from the West who come to Vietnam for a short vacation or a business trip. Not dating in the sense of starting a relationship, because the men will go back to their country. The ‘dating” this is about then, for men coming for a short vacation or a business trip is about having fun WHILE THERE.
So, please be clear about what dating means for you. If you want a long term relationship, beyond the short vacation/ business trip, then this site is not for you.
There are websites, so I understand (?) where men from the West are looking for women from other countries for marriage. This is risky of course, but at least here is a chance for a fit between what you are expecting (a long term relationship) and what is advertised (marriage).
If you meet another man on vacation/ business trip through this “dating” site or in any other way, please do not become physically intimate with him.
There is always the chance for a man to fall in love with the woman in the exotic country, the stuff movies are made of. But in reality, you can go through years of being with man after man, waiting for the Happily-ever-after ending and … you end up old and humiliated.
In regard to this man, the fact that he referred to his girlfriend (who lives with him) as an “ex’- that is deceiving. In this case he is not the decent man I was hoping he is. Also, any references he made in his profile and in communications with you to a long term relationship were probably deceitful.
If this is the case, I would edit your email to him this way:
” I thought if it possible we just give us a chance until you said you have a girlfriend and that you do love her. I would love to tell you that no matter what happen I always wish you to be happy with your choice. But i wonder why did you call her your ex when we met up?
Why did you call her your ex when we met up?”
This is it. I would ask him this question. If he told you other misleading things before and while he was in Vietnam, suggesting there could be a relationship between the two of you, ask him why he said those things while he had a girlfriend AND while he held the position that a long distance relationship is not a possibility for him. Ask him. Will be back at the computer in a couple of hours or so.
anita
July 24, 2016 at 10:07 pm #110453Hang DoParticipantDear Anita,
This is his answer:”I called her my ex because I did not want to complicate things at the moment. I love her, but am not, “in love” with her. Don’t stress yourself. ” but he did not answer why he joined that dating site, looking for another girl there while having a girlfriend at home.Could you help me to get clear about loving and falling in love with someone? I did not think about this difference until him.
July 25, 2016 at 8:47 am #110487AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
First thing: when he called her his ex, he lied.
He told you the reason he lied: “did not want to complicate things at the moment.” It means he wanted to make it easy for himself, simple. He wanted to get together with another woman, or women, this is why he joined a dating site. He intended to get involved with another woman or women while being in a relationship. He didn’t tell you because he wanted to be with you without having to explain himself and without risking you not wanting to be with him (because he has a girlfriend).
So he lied and that was unfair to you. He misrepresented important information to you, information you had the right to know.
And in the email to you that you quoted above, he did not apologize. He did not admit he did something wrong. This indicates to me further, that indeed, he is not a decent person.
Second thing: when he wrote,: ” I love her, but am not, “in love” with her”- what did he mean, this is what you are asking me. I heard this term- love but not in love- many times. What does it mean… I am thinking what it means is that he feels something for her, a caring, wanting her to be okay, but he is not excited by her. I believe what it means (from other information you provided about the guy) is that sexually, she is not enough for him, not excited by her.
And this is why he looked for other women in the dating site (and otherwise..?), so to experience the sexual excitement that is missing from his relationship with his girlfriend.
anita
July 25, 2016 at 8:56 am #110489Hang DoParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so so much for your patience and advice. What you have said is meant to me a lot. I can consider him and our relationship obviously. I have made decision that just let it go. I don’t want to waste time and suffer sadness for him, for our relationship.
What you have been doing here for me, for other people is so wonderful. I wish you all the best. Thank you dear Anita 🙂July 25, 2016 at 9:53 am #110499AnonymousGuestDear hangdo:
Thank you for your appreciation, your kindness and you are welcome. I agree that there is nothing here to pursue with this guy. Please be wary of this dating site where you meet men coming to Vn for a short visit. And do post anytime. I would like to read from you again and again and respond.
anita
July 26, 2016 at 7:41 am #110562Hang DoParticipantDear Anita,
Today my mood is a bit worse than yesterday. I am so mad for myself. Why i cannot bear this? I don’t wanna eat or do anything but lying all day and crying. But i even get tired of crying. I cannot cry much as when i was new to love. I miss him, hate him and am mad for him a lot. He is now enjoying his holiday while i have to depress myself like this? Who knows he is with some girl now?
I just feel so hard to accept the truth. I used to date other men when i wanted to forget someone. I know it was rediculous but it worked. Should i use that way again? -
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