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  • #77570
    Ann
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    Hi all

    I had panic disorder and anxiety from early teenage days though i realized what was going on after a long time. I developed this disorder as a result of my unhappy, abusive childhood. I also believe my hypothyroidism condition contribute to it (am on medication and it is under control).Though i have been trying for sometime to deal this, would like to know if any of you had any experience or tips to share with me.

    Thank you.

    #77572
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lavender27:
    Hello again. I re-read some of your post of 5/29. You wrote there: “I was physically, emotionally and verbally abused on a daily basis, sometimes at a busy supermarket or during a late night sleep.” Can or will you elaborate a bit… maybe tell about an incident in a busy supermarket: what happened there? Or during a late night sleep? Perhaps share about two such incidents?

    anita

    Little did i know what these memories will do to me as an adult.

    #77573
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I copied the second sentence at the end “Little did i know..” The thing is about those incidents I hope you can elaborate on- the memories- in particular the EMOTIONAL MEMORIES/ FLASHBACKS of those traumas rise up as your current anxiety I suspect.
    anita

    #77581
    Ann
    Participant

    Hi Anita nice to see you again. As you correctly guessed my anxiety stems from incidents that happened in my childhood that left scar.

    As my anxiety and panic attacks started troubling my daily life i decided to figure out why and how this happened to me. I tried to remember incidents from my childhood in which i have been particularly scared or confused. Then the following incidents came to my mind. I was 5, went for a shopping with my mother. My mother was very strict, no nonsense woman and i used to obey her. That day while she was shopping and i was standing next to her gazing at the road outside (may be looking at cars). suddenly i felt something fell on my neck. Mom was hitting me with something from behind. I was only spared because another woman standing next to her noticed it. Then one night she was upset with father and came to my bed room, used a cane on me while i was in deep sleep. I used to get abused unexpectedly and unreasonably. Another incident in which i got a barely visible cut while playing in the school. Back at home i was severely punished for being careless… The irony was my cut was nothing compared to her punishment. This is what i was trying to say. As i grew up (may be an 8 year old) my neighbors started noticing these harsh punishments so my mom almost stopped hurting me during the day time. Then you know i started getting nervous and trembling during dusk as i know she will find something to beat me, throw things at me, break the plates, yell at the top of her voice. So i used to pray to God for dawn to approach early. Another time, my neighbor who was fond of me pursued my mother to send me for dance lessons (she accidentally saw me imitating a dancer on the television). But my mother taunted me until i tell my neighbor that i hate dance an don’t want to go. In many ways i felt unloved and unattended for. The worst part was i never told anyone these things but kept recollecting incidents that hurt me more.

    #77588
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear lavender27:
    Fear, anxiety hijacked so much of my life. At 5-6 I developed Tourette Syndrome and OCD. I performed many rituals to keep danger away and I moved every voluntary muscle of my body (motor and vocal tics). i was later diagnosed with other expressions of anxiety. I was afraid that my mother will either kill me or kill herself as she threatened to do both. I was under attack, most of the time verbal. Lots of it. And nobody intervened no matter how loud she got. I get startled easily, or got startled easily. I see a word, five minutes ago, “devastating” and i think it means something devestating is going to happen to me.

    How to deal with panic and anxiety, you asked. For me it has been a long process starting with cognitive behavioral therapy/ mindful/ dialectical therapy, mainly examining THOUGHTS for distortions and feeling better after correcting those thoughts as well as PAYING ATTENTION to what i am thinking and feeling and to the here and now. as well as seeing reality in AND instead of OR- correcting distorted thinking of all or nothing, personalizing, fortune telling. Lots of articles on this kind of therapy skills and information in a website called psych central. Also I am finally (!!!) in a good relationship. Not that i was able to have a good relationship when i met my husband. Going to a few years of therapy and practice of interpersonal skills as well as the skills i mentioned above and INSIGHT into my past- all that made a good relationship possible with the GOOD man I was fortunate to meet.

    A baby, a dog needs CONNECTION, affection to feel safe- this is how the animal part of us deals with fear- through connection, comfort by another. This is why the trauma you and I went through is so severe- instead of getting comfort by our mother we got ATTACKED.

    That screws with a developing child. Lots of this stuff is covered by “complex ptsd” or developmental ptsd”- same thing,

    Anything else that you would like me to share with you???
    anita

    #77605
    Ann
    Participant

    Dear Anita
    Thank you very much for your your informative post. Most of your experiences are mine and i appreciate you a lot the way you deal with your pain and also being here offering a helping hand. I should tell you that my mother was comparatively better than my father. All the frustration she had on me was only her way of expressing her own fear to someone less defensive. But my father is someone you can call as a pure devil. He made sure that i suffer, sometimes acting through mom or else directly. My relationship with mother has improved after i grew up but with father it went down the toilet. He spit venom on me and loath me to eternity from the time i can remember. He always leave a trail of havoc in my way whenever i try to escape from him. The fact that he is abusing me even now (He beat me to near death last week after i questioned him for calling me a foul word and i had to call police) because he know that i have nowhere to go. My question to you, Did changing the environment worked for you? Like moving away from the people who cause you trouble. I know healing is not easy and it takes a long time. But am desperate to make some changes. I have so much anger in me… I’m sorry but i feel to tear father into pieces. I am unable to control my mind/thoughts and it is like every cell in my body is on fire.

    #77610
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear lavender27:
    I had no idea you are STILL abused, in your current life. There is no way you can heal if you are still in danger. Is there a WOMAN SHELTER you can go to??? I would say: take a few clothes, your medication, and move to a woman shelter. Most of the women there may be hiding from an abusive husband/ bf but an abusive father is not any less dangerous. Get a restraining order against your father. Never, ever go back to live with your father. In the future, maybe, sue him for the great damages he has caused you, but that is a maybe and a later thing.

    Or maybe there is a way to legally remove your father from the house- is that an option? Did the police say anything on the matter- I mean he attacked you physically? How about a restraining order NOW, which means he will not be allowed in the house?

    No wonder you have panic attacks- fueled by past abuse and present abuse. No wonder you are in great distress. No wonder you are angry and every cell in your body, as you wrote, is on fire.

    First thing first: remove him from the house following a police complaint on your part and a restraining order OR remove yourself from the house. I hope others more knowledgable than me can help here OR I hope you can get information from a woman shelter in your area (CALL!) or another agency or church that can and will help you escape the CURRENT physical danger you are in.

    Please write again!!!
    anita

    #77644
    Ann
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you again for your communication. Yes, i forgot to mention that am still getting abused. I need to tell you that i don’t live in the US. I happened to come across this website and found it extremely helpful. I called the cops soon after the incident but they were skeptical in pressing charges. I live in a society where family is considered as sacred and parents are treated next to God. Nobody understand the depth of my (our) issue here. They see it as a family dispute or a parent trying to discipline his/her child. Though i have friends or teachers who are sympathetic to me, but neither they can comprehend it because they have never experienced it. Cops told me i can press charges if it happens again. They told me i would be the one moving out because its legally my parents home. I have an appointment scheduled with my counselor on thursday. After that i will decide how to move further. I don’t want to sue parents for damages because no amount of money will ever be equal to the torture i have been through. I am leaving it to God. But it is comforting to know that there are people like you who have been through the same but tackled it. Hope i can do it too. I wish you a good day.

    #77651
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lavender27:
    I can see how living in a different country makes my suggetions above partially unapplicable. I am now living in the U.S. but came here from another country. When I was growing up (I like to say “growing IN”) my mother screamed very loudly at me in our little apartment as she hit me or otherwise and NOBODY ever said anything to my knowledge. It was in the 60s 70s. It made me wonder if anything WRONG was happening at all- nobody said anything, nobody showed up to intervene. I remember neighbors… a couple from the U.S. came to visit my neighbors in the other country where I was born. The Americal mother was beating her son who was 13. My neighbors and I (I was 15) stood outside the door to give the mother privacy to beat her son. The sounds were horrible, the sounds of the heating and his cries, yet it was treated like it was her RIGHT as a mother to do whatever she wanted with HER kid. I share the responsibility for standing there with the others, feeling distressed but doing nothing.

    I was in my early 20s the last time my mother ran to me with her arms flailing in the attempt to hit me. For the first time I reached out with my arms to her and caught her hands, held them in my hands and exerted just enough force to keep them in one place, not moving toward me. She withdrew and that was the last time. It made me angry to think that that is all it took, that the bully, or the Enemy, as I viewed her, was not at all that strong.

    I don’t know how physically strong your father is… fighting him may be futile and may cause him to physically hurt you more than he already does. It is a SHAME that the unevolved, primitive attitude that parents CAN do anything to their children, minor age or adults, still exists. It used to be LEGAL for parents to kill their children. This is where we come from, that history, still existing.

    The part of my advice that is still applicable to you and that you are aware of already and you are already planning for it it: you MUST get out of that house. You must have no contact with your father (and your mother if you so decide).

    WHATEVER IT TAKES, move out. Whatever it takes. Try to make it as best a move as you can, but do it. It is necessary for your mental/ physical health. Please post again, lavender27, I will look forward to read every one of your posts.
    anita

    #77657
    Ann
    Participant

    Dear Anita,
    It seems like few things never change. I am a 90’s kid but our experiences are so alike. Though i walked the same path it still feel horrible to read yours. I know you still bear the scars; but bravo for fighting it… I am checking for options to move out while i recover. Hope to meet you here soon again. I wish you nothing but peace !

    #77795
    BenzRabbit
    Participant

    Hi Lavender27,

    I wish parents would realize the damage they do to their own children !

    You have to find a way out of there. Until then, I would suggest ‘silence’ – it is a Buddhist practice and works wonders. No matter what is said, remain silent and remove yourself from the situation.

    Here are 2 links that should help you:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/culturally-speaking/201303/overcoming-the-pain-childhood-abuse-and-neglect
    http://www.womensaid.org.uk/domestic-violence-survivors-handbook.asp?section=000100010008000100360004

    You have your entire life ahead of you and it WILL get better !!!

    I pray your angels guide you forward.

    GOD Bless !

    ps: listen to this song by Jewel called ‘Hands’ – it will lift your spirit:

    #77803
    Bethany Rosselit
    Participant

    Hi Lavender!

    I actually have a LOT of experience with anxiety, much of it being first-hand. Healing takes time, but it certainly is possible. Often, anxiety is caused by the fight-or-flight response being triggered, when a current situation reminds you (subconsciously) of the past. Learning to calm the physiological response, then redefine the triggers, can be very helpful.

    Here is a post I wrote on Mental Health Talk, about my own experiences and what I learned from it: http://mentalhealthtalk.info/navigating-anxiety .

    Hope that helps! Hang in there, and you will find relief and healing.

    Bethany Rosselit
    http://onlinetherapyandcoaching.org

    #77808

    Hi lavender!

    Listen anxiety and stress are everyday feelings that we all feel. Now others feel them more others less, what you need to try and do is when you start panic or get stressed and anxious start breathe deeply and evenly from the nose. Breathe for three seconds, keep for five and blow for 3. This technique is going to relax your body. Another thing you can do is get up early, take a shower, put on your favorite music get dress in a way that makes you feel good and you’ll be ready to go and face everything that comes in your way because a good ego boost in the morning sometimes is everything you need. Now another good technique is to create a wall and by creating a wall i mean imagine in every hard situation you go through that theres a magnetic field or something that will protect you from everything. It worked for me. Last but not least, every time you start to panic think where you would wish to be and what would you like to do there. Create a world just for you a world where you can find peace and relax even when everything else seems wrong. I am telling all this because i believe in you and i believe in us!!! Only we can find peace for ourselves we just need a little push or an ego boost to do that. I hope these techniques will help you.

    Vangelis-Ethan Kitsos

    #77810
    Adam
    Participant

    My friend,
    As someone who has and still is dealing with panic disorder and OCD I understand how crippling it can be in life. Few understand the pressure, stress, and disease it causes in daily life. You must understand that you were born this way and once you can see your anxiety as a blessing and use it to your advantage, you’ll begin to have more control over it.

    I’ve found that the key to panic disorder is combination of acceptance and exposure therapy. Exposing yourself to what you’re afraid of in a comfortable atmosphere at first, then slowly expanding. If you’re going to control your anxiety, you must become the anxiety and let it seep into your being. Understand why you feel a certain way, why it can be beneficial, and what you can do to direct that energy in a positive way.

    Once you can do this, you will realize that your anxiety gives you heightened senses, a powerful ability to focus, and an strategic way of analyzing situations. However, when anxiety isn’t directed, it falls into chaos. It runs through our bodies trying to find a way to release itself which makes everything so much worse. The trick is to direct the anxiety before it sets in.

    Begin discipling yourself to experience your anxiety slowly at first. Remember to breathe and remind yourself that your anxiety may not even be rational. Face the anxiety and direct it towards positive action. Any positive action. The more you ignore, suppress or become frustrated, the worse it’s going to get.

    I hope this helps. My personal blog is Thepathofaronin.blogspot.com and may offer further advice.

    Good luck!

    #77841
    Ann
    Participant

    @BenzRabbit: Thank you very much for the tips and video. What i can tell you living with abusive people is that you certainly don’t need to do something for them to abuse you. I have tried to be silent for the most part of childhood and it was the worst thing i ever did. My life became little better after i decide to defend myself.
    @ Bethany Rosselit: Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I have anxiety for similar things regarding job, life, my relation with people etc.
    @ Vethank: Thank you for your reply. I felt my anxiety and panic attacks exceeded the limits this is why i decide to look for help. The breathing technique does help sometimes though.
    @ Adam: I’m Sorry to hear that you are suffering my OCD. As you said exposing yourself to what we fear definitely helps to control panic attacks! Thank you for the tips.

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