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July 4, 2017 at 10:57 am #156344HomiParticipant
Helloooo! Namaste !
I do not know if i should post this here, but anyway… I am a 25 year old person and in my whole childhood, the ego formed by the mind, imagined alot of scenarios where i am diferent type of hero or superpowered humanoid (doing ”good”). Lately while my life impresions is getting a little rough, my subconscious works in the ”shadow” creating scenarios where ” I” want a super power with which i want to destroy all humanity, along with everything else. The most part of the reason (i guess) is because i want to retreat in nature to live with the nature by myself and i cannot do that and i am not ready to confront the inner forces and the outter forces to do that.
Question : How bad is this thinking ? I ask because i am a little afraid of this and amused.
I want to metion that i love to read and listen Osho, Echart Tolle, Mooji, Sadhguru, Jesus Christ , etc. and spiritual quotes. I was born in orthodox religion and raised on praying, but i feel more attracted to asian spirituality and i started on meditation which hepled me to feel connected with the universe(s) again ( sometime with visualization – energy-universe-atom-molecule-cell-body-chamber-building-city-region-country-continent-planet-solar system- galaxy- cluster- energy … all shinning and lighted surrounded by (weird) peacefull darkness, ……and most of the time i just watch my breath).
Excuse my bad english please! If this message is too childish ignore it. Sorry for your trouble!
PS.: You know i still choose to love you even if my mind wants sometime to destroy the life on this planet. ( only this planet)
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
July 4, 2017 at 1:30 pm #156378HomiParticipantCorrection : In the PS, i do not meant that to a person, and I do not want me to sound like a really monster. The only thing i want to do is to share this situation and to find a clue, when i do not find myself in meditation and praying .
Thank you!
July 4, 2017 at 8:03 pm #156410AnonymousGuestDear Homi:
Can you elaborate on what you mean by “inner forces and outer forces” in the sentence: “i want to retreat in nature to live with the nature by myself and i cannot do that and i am not ready to confront the inner forces and the outter forces to do that”?
You engage in scenarios where you use a superpower to destroy humanity. My question: what do you feel about humanity?
anita
July 5, 2017 at 10:20 am #156492HomiParticipantHellooo!! Namaste !
Dear Anita:
Thank you for response. This made me to reach to another level of understanding myself.
The inner forces means that there are 2 parts of my mind. One tells me to continue the things that i am doing right now -go to work, finish the faculty, get a better job (mor like in domain), get married, make kids, raise them, etc. The other tells me that i do not want any illusions anymore; doing that i find myself returning to the beggining, where men lived in nature peacefully. The truth is that i am acting like a coward. The first part is like a made up plan from society, i am living with it, and the most of the time i accepted it, and the second is like an utopic lifestyle which i found it somewhere along the way in books, movies or stories. I am not brave enought to do one of the parts (ways) correctly . I feel cought in the middle.
Here comes the outer forces. I found them in people surrounding me that have their own battles that hurts me too, knowingly or unknowingly . So i see people fighting with each other. EG: the good from X with the bad from Y. In the next day is vice versa. I find myself in each side of the battle. How much identification with the others, right? And i know is not good for me. And i fall for that so that is why i reach to a point where i said to myself : ” Why are you fighting each other? Why are we still fighting? So little understanding. Why we see so much problems when there are none? ” So i find myself in a scenarios where i do terrible things to humanity, just beacause i want all the ”problems” gone with humans along, and all i just want is peace to myself and everybody and to be grateful that i am still alive and that i am healty.
I do not want any harm to other people, but i realize that there are moments when i meditate and i reach plains of peace and joy for a few minutes and after that or in the other days i get stuck in negativism which i get from other people (eg: work,home,school, internet) and i respond to that low vibrations.
I want you too understand when i am in that state of unconsciousness which i let my ego to drive me to thoughts of destruction, i still find people that i love much, people i want to be protected. When i come back to a relaxed state ( after sleep, meditation, or praying) i realize that i do not want to harm anyone, not even a fly. I am a very happy person in general and i get stuck sometimes, but i never had a scenario where i am a very destructive power. I do not feel terrible of this thoughts, i understand them and i know that are not good at all. I am thinking this is happening beacause i reach some states of happiness, and the subconscious tryies to send me to a scale of low vibrations. I do not really know for sure yet.
Thank you very much for response again. It hepled me alot to grow.
Homi
July 5, 2017 at 11:40 am #156510AnonymousGuestDear Homi:
You wrote about your thoughts: “i understand them and i know that are not good at all”- thoughts and images in our brains, these are mostly automatic mental events, we do not choose them. Because we don’t choose them, and because by themselves they do not benefit or harm others, they are neither good nor bad. It is our behavior, what we express, say and do that is subject to choice, and therefore to an evaluation of benefit vs harm, good vs bad.
In your first paragraph you evaluated yourself to be a coward because you are too afraid to follow society’s conventional thinking about how to live life, on one hand, and on the other, you are afraid to live differently from societal conventional thinking.
I don’t think you are a coward, unless you think all humans are cowards, every single one.
We are all afraid.
In your second paragraph you wrote: “i find myself in a scenarios where i do terrible things to humanity, just because i want all the ”problems” gone with humans along..”
Humanity is so messed up, the thought is, isn’t it- that better destroy it and start from the beginning, correct? Build a better humanity from scratch?
I suggest the Middle Way: you don’t have to follow all of societal conventions or none at all: you don’t have to display aggressive behavior, “go to work, finish the faculty, get a better job (more like in domain), get married, make kids, raise them, etc.,” OR “retreat in nature to live with the nature by myself “-
Not All OR Nothing but the middle way. Evaluate each conventions over time and decide for yourself, make your own thoughtful choices. Do retreat into nature, for a few hours, a day, this is doable- get a feel for it. Evaluate. Continue to experience, experiment and evaluate.
anita
July 9, 2017 at 6:08 pm #157250MarkParticipantHi Homi,
Growing is a long process. You are still young. Perhaps instead of focusing on harming others, you can focus on your own self-growth, your own self-progress. Decide on the person you want to become and move closer toward that person each day.
You may not be able to change the thoughts that you think, but you can control your actions. If you meditate you probably have realized just observing your thoughts can lead to some interesting observations about yourself. If the thought it destructive or negative, just let it slide. Thoughts are just words and understandings. Try to focus on the good in yourself, the part that wants to help people.
July 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm #158582HomiParticipantHelloooo ! Namaste!
Dear Anita:
You are right. It is my life and i have do decide, to make a choice. I did spent some time in nature and it helps. I hope i will have the strenght to do that more often. Thank you for the advice.
Dear Mark:
Thank you for your answer. That helped me too. In particular the part that i got to let the thoughts ”slide”. I like that. Thanks.
I have a lot to work. Interior work. I will post again with results soon.
Thank you all again !
July 17, 2017 at 1:31 pm #158694AnonymousGuestYou are welcome, Homi.
anita
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