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September 2, 2018 at 7:27 pm #224115GigiParticipant
My husband is a workaholic and his work is his first love and passion. He never had time for me and I started feeling the pressure and the loss of connection with him. We have been married 3 years and have a 2 yr old son. Our relationship dynamics have changed and he wont even look at me anymore now. He gets angry and frustrated when I bring up our relation. Now he is radio silent. I do not mean to lose my self esteem here and I completely understand that asking him why he has changed towards me and become more averse towards me, only makes me look pathetic. But I need answers to close this if I have to. I just want him to acknowledge our problem once rather than being mad at me. How do I glean patience here? My soul is in constant turmoil here. I just cannot distract from it and stop thinking about it. Thanks!
September 2, 2018 at 7:50 pm #224119MarkParticipantGigi,
I assume that he was a workaholic when you married him. First and foremost, love yourself. How you love yourself is how you can care for your son. If you put yourself last then that is what you are teaching him … and your husband.
It is not whether you have patience with your husband, it is how you want your marriage to be. It is not a one sided relationship. If he does not hold up his end then it is not a relationship. The sooner you realize that then the sooner you can create a life that is best for you and your son.
Make sense?
Mark
September 2, 2018 at 8:30 pm #224125GigiParticipantThanks Mark. Yes, my husband was always a workaholic. But he also did find ways to communicate. Communication was not his strongest suit but we did find a way to connect. Now something has changed!
I am struggling to love myself in all this. You are absolutely right – I have dumped myself for him. I think to some extent it is immaterial as to why he changed. Only thing matters is how I get out of this mess internally first since that is the only thing I can control. I need some actionable tasks to help me get out of this rut. My son is young and I need to save myself before it is late. The first step to change this has been the hardest but I thank you for pointing the most simplest and the obvious truth here.
Gigi
September 2, 2018 at 8:39 pm #224127MarkParticipantGigi,
I encourage you to find emotional support and even therapy for yourself.
Yes, actionable tasks, e.g. lawyer, financial support (work, etc.), a community of support, etc.
Good luck,
MarkSeptember 2, 2018 at 8:48 pm #224133GigiParticipantMark,
Thank you! Yes I do work and it is a shame I have not given it a better chance this far – time to focus there more! Haven’t gone to a lawyer yet as I do not want to give up on him and us as parents together. Therapy is hit or miss but I am looking.
Gigi
September 2, 2018 at 8:56 pm #224135MarkParticipantGigi,
My experience is that therapy is not a panacea especially if one partner is not invested in “fixing” the relationship. It’s a waste of time. You both still can be parents but not together.
It is telling that it is only you that is “fighting” for the relationship. As I said, I believe it does take two to make a relationship work and if it is only you fighting for it then it’s a lost cause.
Mark
September 3, 2018 at 6:07 am #224161AnonymousGuestDear Gigi:
It is possible that your husband stopped communicating with you because it became a frustrating task, one that didn’t result in positive outcomes for him, or if it did, only temporary. He may be passionate about his work because there he received positive outcomes and so, he is motivated to continue his work, excitedly anticipating more of those outcomes/ rewards.
For as long as you consider the marriage as something you want to continue, better start communicating in a different way, in a way that will reward him.
If you want, you can give me an example of an attempted communication with him, what you say, how you say it, in what circumstance and how he responds. I may then be able to suggest to you a different way to attempt effective communication with him.
anita
September 4, 2018 at 12:53 pm #224321ChloeParticipantHi anita,
I had a same issue here and what you explained make sense to me. Im also not good at communicating so would be ok if I can somehow message you privately for advice on how I can comminicate differently?
Thanks alot.
September 4, 2018 at 1:56 pm #224329AnonymousGuest* Dear Chloe:
You are welcome.
I just posted to you on the other thread. There is no way to message privately here. I think you communicated very well on the other thread. Why don’t you start your own thread, clicking on FORUMS above and going from there?
I will be glad to read more from you and reply when I am back to the computer in about 15 hours.
anita
September 21, 2018 at 6:38 pm #226631GigiParticipantHi
Following up on what I wrote earlier, the only thing that works between us is if we do not communicate. I am an emotional person and my husband is not. When I say emotional, I dont mean crying or whatever, I mean bringing up an issue if I disagree with or have concerns about. For example, he was gone for 2 weeks on vacation and he decided to completely not talk to me for 2 weeks, and this was just something he wanted. Agreed he is allowed to enjoy his time but he gave me no such impression before leaving (either in words or attitude) that he wanted some time alone. When I bring that up as to what precipitated to that, I am the drama queen. It is a catch 22 with him always, several instances, if I communicate, I am a drama queen and if I dont, i am an ice queen. At our son’s first birthday, he was mad at me because I apparently didnt invite him for photos. It is a different issue that I was so caught up with hospitality that I didnt even initiate it. But apparently I should have and should have invited him- as per his arguement with me later. There are strings of situation where this man randomly surprises me by misunderstanding my intentions. So at this point only thing left is me and I want to focus on my life, on what I want to do and how I want to do it. I have tolerated his so called tantrums and the only thing left for me is to do what works best for me. Both parties involved have to learn to speak each other’s love languages, agreed the learning curve for each is different. So I am just letting it go to the universe and palms up having faith that there is some share of happiness stored for me somewhere.
September 22, 2018 at 5:31 am #226657AnonymousGuestDear Gigi:
I will respond to what you shared on this thread as well as what you shared in your new thread, leaving your new thread for others to respond to, at this point (it has been slow but I do hope others will respond to your new thread soon enough).
First I will retell your story adding quotes: you have been married three years, have a two year old son. Your husband is angry at you, has become “averse toward” you, and goes “radio silent” when angry. In the beginning of the relationship he communicated with you (“he also did find ways to communicate… we did find a way to connect”), but no more. You didn’t go to a lawyer yet regarding separation/ divorce because you “do not want to give up on him and us as parents together”.
At times he calls you a “drama queen” and at other times, “an ice queen”. During your son’s first birthday you took or had pictures taken of your son with guests but you did not invite your husband to be in the pictures. He was angry at you for that. You believe that he misunderstands your intentions. You also stated that you are emotional and he is not, but you did mention that he gets angry and you mentioned his “so called tantrums”.
At work you met a man who is also married and who has marital problems. The two of you talked for 4.5 hours at one time, “Our souls connected I felt!”, you wrote. Then “this feeling and this closeness.. new and intense” that you believed he was feeling as well, weakened on his part, and “this week he is a little silent… acting cool”. The two of you decided to “avoid hanging out at work”. You wrote that you feel “like a kid and yet a woman at the same time” when you are with him and that you “need tools to act mature around him and not get weak” because you are afraid of losing him.
Second part of my post is my input: I don’t know what is going on, but I think the following is a possibility. Again, it is only a possibility that seems likely enough in my mind. Some of it may be true or none of it. And so, the following may be nothing but Fiction:
You really are either a drama queen or an ice queen: you alternatively express a lot of emotion or you withdraw and go silent. When emotional you may not cry (as you indicated), but you go on and on and on about what he did, why he shouldn’t have and so forth. So much so, that he can’t stand it anymore and he avoids spending time at home. When he did communicate with you that he needs some quiet time, you retaliated by withdrawing and going completely silent. You further tried to punish him by not inviting him to participate in your son’s birthday pictures, so as he, let’s say, cuts the birthday cake for the guests, being engaged this way, you have pictures taken, purposefully excluding him.
Maybe that long conversation you had with your co worker was not that intense for him, but he felt it was intense for you and so, he got scared, didn’t want trouble, and he withdrew from you.
If there is any truth to this possibility I just typed, then psychotherapy is the place for you, a place where you will learn to regulate your emotions so to have reasonable control over the expressions of your emotions, and where you learn interpersonal skills such as doing your part in assertive and respectful communication.
Is my input nothing but Fiction?
anita
September 22, 2018 at 6:46 am #226663GigiParticipantThanks for first rehashing what I wrote and then giving me your input. I think I am not very good at writing this. Let me break it down in a couple of pieces- first my marriage. So no I don’t think it is misguided and disrespectful communication on my part. I never uninvited him to take pictures. I didnt just take any! I will agree to one thing you said is that I am pushing him away… someone described my situation in my marriage as the boy in Oliver Twist- always holding the bowl and asking for more! I think any self-respectful woman in my situation would not want to wait but let go. So now even if he tries, I am shut down. I was vulnerable and poured out to him and I am shut down.
Second piece, my coworker. Regarding what you said that may be it was not as intense for him as it was for me – possible but less possibly so! I could see what he got from it. May be he is processing it! Or else, why does he need to change his attitude towards me? In fact when we were talking, I first confessed to him that wish I had met him 5 years ago. And he asked the same after that, “why was I not in his life earlier?” He told me he likes me and that in me he sees a kindred spirit. I told him this connection we have, and him, they fill a gap in my life, a friend, a true friend that I was looking for! But as we open up more it got difficult for me to not want more. So I am looking for tools to control myself. I dont know if this is common for marriages – especially the ones that are a little more imperfect than others! So I do not want to do anything brash and in fact I have told my friend to also be objective and I will support him in doing the right thing. I know this thing is way too complex for many people to understand. It is definitely a very grey zone and that is why I want to be cautious.
September 22, 2018 at 6:59 am #226665AnonymousGuestDear Gigi:
Your co worker/ friend, it is not surprising that he withdrew from you some, he is married and is not considering separation, so he is conflicted, not sure what to do. This is not the circumstances that are congruent with starting and maintaining a new friendship/ relationship.
You wrote, “this thing is way too complex for many people to understand”. It would be possible for me to understand, rather than come up with this or that possibility if you explained the situation clearly.
Reads like you gave up on your husband and marriage, that you are done with trying to communicate with him, that you are open for a relationship with a new man, at least emotionally, you are. But then you wrote that you are not interested in separation and divorce. So I don’t understand what you are trying to do. If you are not interested in divorce, how do you see your marriage proceeding? How are you going to make it possible for you to survive in it with some peace of mind?
anita
September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am #226695GigiParticipantThanks for the reply Anita. Yes I do not know what I want. They say if you are not sure there is trouble, then there is. That’s where I am. I am too afraid to take any kind of step – I feel I can’t leave my husband and can also not be with him. I definitely need therapy.
Regarding my coworker, he is considering divorce but in a similar boat like mine. I am not sure what he wants to do right now also. I feel like I am in the eye of a storm.
there is calmness yet there is this craziness. In a perfect world I would leave my husband, and move on but somehow I don’t think that is the right thing to do right now!
September 22, 2018 at 5:28 pm #226719MarkParticipantGigi,
I suggest you get some short term counseling to help you determine what you want.
You can get all sort of advice from many of us but ultimately it is up to you to determine what is important in your life and how to go about having that.
Mark
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