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  • #233213
    Abiira
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    Hey everyone, so I’m in a bit of a pickle and I needed some advice. I feel like I need to finally make my decision before I destruct those who i love.

    Okay so guy number one: we had history last year, it was great we were seeing each other (we weren’t in what you would call a  relationship but I for one thought we were dating seriously- lack of communication was the problem) but sadly our incompatible lifestyles and his disloyalty shattered me and I had to move on because I knew I deserved better than an immature kid. Fast forward a year on, I forgave him and we now have an incredibly healthy friendship and we’ve buried our feelings and moved on, except deep down I know he’s still in love with me and he’s doing everything in his power to prove me wrong and show me he’s willing to change and enter a committed relationship properly, which honestly I do appreciate. Whether I’m still in love with him, I couldn’t say but a part of my heart always leads back to him. Going for him again is a risk, and I’m trying to decide whether its a risk worth taking since so far friendship has been going well.

    Guy number two: he’s what you call the new flame, full of life and such a sweetheart. He is slightly introverted like me and we’ve been able to bond over our problems and I’ve always had a little crush on him. He confessed his feelings for me and frankly I was in shock because he’s never really had a deep emotional connection with anyone before and the fact that it’s me just feels special. He is a good guy but hes inexperienced when it comes to love so I just wouldn’t want it to be like i’m dating a child again and I guess were certainly more compatible but there is something holding me back and I’m not sure what it is or if he is ‘the one’.

    Honestly I can see myself with both of them in the future, do I revive and old flame who still holds a piece of my heart or try something different with this new kind soul? I am practising self love and I know my worth now, its about what I need in my life now. And why, I really do need some guidance on what the best option is for me right now because I don’t want to ‘lead anyone on’.

    #233237
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Abiira:

    I need more information so to be able to make a suggestion to you. About guy #2 you wrote: “he’s never really had a deep emotional connection with anyone before”- can you elaborate on that?

    And in this regard, what deep emotional connection did guy #1 have before he met you?

    anita

     

    #233247
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear anita: I apologise for the brief descriptions please feel free to ask me any more questions I have failed to mention.

    Guy no 2 keeps to himself and for him to actually open up to me and share his story about his personal life with me was incredibly touching because now I understand he is willing to communicate with me about his problems we both share, unlike guy no 1 the first time around it was incredibly difficult to open up to him. We both share the same values and sense of humour, I think we are different personality wise but we somehow ‘click’. I am the first girl this new guy has romantic feelings for, this to me is both a pro and con as it could mean a fresh start for me to venture with someone new but it also means he doesn’t really carry the experience of a relationship and dealing with the ups and downs when I know I want a committed stable relationship.

    Guy no 1 we started off as best friends turned lovers about a year and a half ago, we ‘dated’ for 9 months, there were good times and bad times. Incredibly toxic bad times but when it was good I felt like he bought the best out in me. (At this current moment in time we’re back to friends and he only brings out the best in me now and so far I cannot see any toxic signals, he is supportive of my accomplishments this year). The question I’m asking myself is that is this a facade to win me back or is he genuine, I feel like he is genuine but one must always be careful. In his eyes, last year he didn’t see us in a serious relationship and this was purely down to lack of communication. He was seen as the macho hero by all the women in my college so comforted their brokenness with lust, obviously, once I found out, I left. And I think that hit him hard, to lose someone he actually did truly care despite his idiotic mistakes. He’s still ever so determined to prove he is the right guy for me and that he made mistakes he regrets and has good pure intentions this time around from my eyes.

    Guy no 1 I don’t know what it is but my heart keeps holding a piece of him, I am a stronger individual that’s why I feel if we were to get into a relationship I would be able to see the warning signs if there would be any, though this time around I honestly think he has changed into a better person both for him and myself. Guy 2 I think I’m infatuated to almost go on an ‘adventure’ with someone new who logically seems like the better option for me and I think it’s the thought of whether this is just an infatuation or somehow a lot deeper and worthwhile, a part of me is still unsure.

    Also, I should note Guy no 1 and 2 are incredibly close friends so I feel like if I make the right decision now there won’t be a rift in any of our friendships. (We’re all in the same college).

     

    #233259
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Abiira:

    Regarding guy #2, you wrote: “He is a good guy but he’s inexperienced when it comes to love”- no experience is better than bad experience. In other words, a man may be very experienced at being an uncaring and even an abusive boyfriend. There is no benefit in such experience.

    You wrote about him: “I am the first girl this new guy has romantic feelings for”- this puzzles me. Is he in his early twenties, and if he is a heterosexual man, how can it be that he didn’t have romantic feelings toward a girl or woman in all of his teen years and early twenties?

    anita

    #233263
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear Anita:

    Is there anything else I have not explained so well that I can go into further detail?

    I do understand where you are coming from regarding experience.

    Ps, we are still late teens. He is definitely straight, but I don’t think he’s taken anything further with a girl more than a platonic friendship because he wasn’t one to believe in love, following his parents up and down marriage but I’m not one to comment on why he hasn’t, he is very work and family orientated and prides those rather than love.

    #233267
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Albiira:

    The three of you are all in your late teens then. Yes, I do have a question: what is your goal then in choosing one of the two, is it to move toward a lifetime partnership/ marriage?

    If you don’t have such long term plans, the choice should be easier.

    I think that one important factor regardless if your aim is short term or long term, is honesty. You want a guy who is honest with you, one you can trust. I would make sure my choice, if I was you, would be the guy who is more trustworthy.

    You mentioned guy #2′ past toxic behavior, can you tell me more about it?

    anita

    #233277
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear Anita:

    A long-term relationship is my plan, thus leading towards marriage or a long-term partnership, in my culture, we marry early- and I am sure the other two men have similar plans.

    And I don’t know if I mistyped? But it was guy 1 who had previous toxic traits who I’ve had a history with, guy 2 is completely new.

    But yes, when we were ‘dating’, my head would be going round in circles because I felt something was wrong like I was doing something wrong when I know deep down it wasn’t my fault till i confided in a friend of mine who warned me of certain rumours. Simply he was having sexual connections with other women behind my back. I think it was when communication seemed to be overwhelming for him he turned to release and spill emotionally into other women. For a while, I thought I was going crazy because he always tried to conceal the truth till I confronted him adamantly and then he told me every single detail of his sexual relations which really did crush his ego back then. I remember him saying that I had a good heart and I used to be naive so it was easy for him to do what he wanted, ultimately that was quite a bittersweet truth. I decided to focus on myself and self-love and realise I deserved a lot better. I focused on independence and hobbies such as writing and swimming.

    Anyhow ever since, he seemed to feel like he lost a part of him because he is not a bad guy he’s just made some stupid immature mistakes. He also invested in self-love over the year and seemed to really become more mature. And I feel like he realised my true worth when I left. One would say to never go back to something which once broke you, but my dilemma is what if this person is making me feel like I am at my happiest at this current moment and genuinely realises he was in the wrong and wants to correct this and start again? Would it be stupid to give another chance?

    #233283
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Abiira:

    I think I understand better. I would say, guy # 2 because guy #1 told you at the time that you had a good heart and was naïve and that he used these things so to hurt you (“I had a good heart and I used to be naïve so it was easy for him to do what he wanted”)

    If guy #2 has a good heart, like yours, and if he is naïve, as you suggested he is, being inexperienced, then the two of you can start something honest and good, being kind to each other, not taking advantage of the other’s lack of experience and good heart-

    which is what guy #1 did.

    But it is not time to commit to guy #2, I believe. You still need to get to know him better and evaluate him later for the purpose of marriage.

    anita

    #233287
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    Honestly, I truly understand where you are coming from and I agree.

    I just am unsure whether people have the ability to change and if so, if guy 1 is genuine I weirdly feel like he is the better one for me purely down to him really trying to prove he is the one and some part of my heart is still with him due to this new fulfilling chemistry that doesn’t involve toxicity. How do you prove someone’s authenticity?  I’m struggling to understand why I feel this connection with guy 1 even when CLEARLY guy 2 seems the better option for me, maybe you could enlighten me?

    Many thanks.

    #233291
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Albiira:

    It is possible that Guy 1 is genuinely and authentically intending to change, to not deceive you again, but will he succeed, is the question, or a better question, maybe, is: if and when he is confident in your commitment to him, will he go back to his behavior from before.

    Can people change? Yes, but for how long, is one question. When a person is motivated to achieve a particular aim, they will change until they achieve that aim and then, they are back to their old ways.

    My concern is that he had it in his heart to deceive you because it was easy to do so. This is what he told you. And so, will he do it again when he feels it is easy yet again?

    Maybe he already has, and you don’t know about it, because it was easy for him to get away with it. Better be with a man who  did not deceive you than be with a man who deceived you and promises to not do it again.

    Why do you feel more toward Guy 1? Because you really like the idea of him wanting to change. But remember he said you were naïve and therefore it was easy for him to do things behind your back? He may still think you are naïve for trusting that he is changing and will be using your naivete once again to deceive.

    Guy 1 deceived you. That hurt you a lot. Your desire to see him change is probably as intense of that hurt. This may be why you feel strongly about him. What do you think?

    anita

    #233305
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear Anita:

    I mean a lot does change in a year, I think all three of us are stronger more mature and cautious individuals- but wow haha you certainly enlightened me!

    (Guy 1) In your opinion, even with all these risks- could this risk possibly in any mind be worth taking or does the destruction overpower any new sign of love? I really do think he has changed at this moment in time, but I know people have a habit of returning to their old ways, so I guess the only way to tell is time? How much time till I can see everything clearly.

    I’m trying to play devil’s advocate with myself because in the past i regretted not taking chances again that I could have. Also considering I’m friends with guy 1- would it be wise to just continue our friendship considering there have been no problems so far or would I have to be careful with it blossoming?

    Regarding guy 2, if the friendship develops I can see how he would be the better choice, I guess this is now an opinion of me unleashing my soul to a new person which could take some time as well of course.

    Thank you so far for everything you’re certainly opening my eyes to the risks and possibilities, I think I need to keep my options open and have some more me time? 🙂

    #233313
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Abiira:

    You are welcome. My suggestion is that you keep your eyes open, try to observe Guy 1 and 2 as objectively as you can, keeping your vision as clear as possible, not clouded with the thick fog of emotion.

    Distinguish between needing something to be true and it being true. Distinguish between wishful thinking and realistic thinking.

    It is better that you learn now about a guy now, than later, after getting married and having a child with him. Better bring children into a home where there is kindness and peace, not distress and trouble.

    About taking a chance with Guy 1: if you chose to do that, give it time but notice this: at  one point make sure he feels confident that he has passed the test, that you trust him. Then give it more time, see if he is loyal to you after you trust him again, when he is no longer questioned.

    But there better be a very good reason to go through this trouble with Guy 1, as it is dangerous, you can get more emotionally invested and your vision may become foggy. Better be a very good reason, not just your feeling about him but very promising things about his character and ability to be a good husband and father.

    Not just a feeling.

    anita

    #233443
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Abiira,

    I know I’m late to the conversation here, but:

    I vote for Guy #2!!

    I give you permission to choose Guy #2.

    (Guy #1 needs a life lesson that you cannot lose someone’s trust and then get back into a relationship with them so easily if at all. You are giving him the If At All treatment. Which is GOOD!! When he gets out of college, believe me, he will NEVER cheat again! Tell him “You had your chance”.  And mean it.)

    Best,

    Inky

    #233447
    Abiira
    Participant

    Dear Inky:

    Haha yes, I’m all for the independent woman ‘I don’t need you’ attitude!

    Somehow deep down my soul really does connect with guy 1, maybe it is our history, maybe it is just this new supportive friendship. I do know that you can only forgive, not forget, so I’ll try to be as objective as I can with him. I think I’m going to be observing his intentions for the while to make sure he knows I’m not a prize to be won. We’ll see if this guy is worth it because I can assure you the change is evident, now its a case of how long he can keep up for as Anita said. And if all is good, I’ll consider the chance because I still see something but certainly WON’T be rushing into it.

    With guy 2 I’m going to be continuing our friendship and if it flourishes, so be it.

    I think I’ve learnt that you cannot force experiences and although one must be cautious, I’m going to let life take its course, something I’ve always struggled with considering I like to be in control.

    At this current moment, I’ll be keeping my options open and be continuing my journey of self-love. Please do get back to me if you think this is the right choice haha.

    Thanks, everyone for your support and guidance.

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