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February 29, 2016 at 1:18 pm #97654Ann87Participant
Hi everyone.
It is my first ever post here on tinybuddha, a website I found very helpful throughout my experience.
I am reaching out for people that might have been in a similair situation or even others that might be so kind
just to send me some words.I met my current partner 3 years ago. I was not long ago out a relationship of emotional and (once) sexual abuse.
I stayed in the relationship not matter what, wishing and hoping for the person to change into something he could have been.
He broke up with me and I was devestated- thinking he was the love of my life. Even though, I understand now that it was
not the case.Anyway, when I met my current partner he was everything my old boyfriend wasn’t. He is a very talented man and we share the same
passion together- music. He could have done anything for me and I let myself go with the flow and afte four months i had moved city,
said goodbye to the job and the band I was in. I became independant on him.I knew in my gut that it was probably not the best thing to be doing at that time but I went along with it.
After living together for three months I became pregnant and made a determination, which was really hard. I remember on the day
that after the abortion- my partner stopped in to see his uncle and was away for an hour. I told him afterwards how ill I’ve been feeling (since I threw up before we stopped) but he only said that he had to stay because his uncle offered him coffee.This has been a recurrent theme in our relationship. The lack of understanding.
After a year of being together we started having a threesome with my best friend which lasted every weekend for six months. I now can understand that it was out of a destructive pattern from my behalf that I wanted to do so. It seemed like it was always my partner that initiated it though. We never really talked about, which was hurting me. My partner seem to not want to talk about things that are important for me. Sometimes when I left the room they kept on having intercourse, which hurt me even more. And don’t get me wrong. I believe that it was three adults in an agreement so I do not blame anyone. But I could see myself getting even more distant. Me and my partner did not really have intercourse during this time either, just us two.
When we decided to stop it all, there was one night when we where together all three of us, and I went to bed earlier and my partner said he would be right there. But in the middle of the night I woke up and went in to the room to see them holding each other half naked. I believed that nothing had happened, I was just upset to see what I have seen, but my partner said I was overreacting and told me to go to bed.
There is countless times when my feelings have been invalidated that I have stopped sharing my thoughts and feelings. There was to become and always has been a lack of emotional closeness- which used to be one of my core values of a relationship.
Another one year down the line, I feel so confused about our relationship and about life.
I am from another country and he has never talked about moving anywhere else, which I understand. He lives in attached house to his parents, so there isn’t much privacy, and most of the time he talks to them rather than me about problems.
I initiated a break not long ago, I went home for a month to my family, and during that time he called me and gave me ultimatums that if I did not come home i would never see him or my cat again. He called me names from heaven to earth. Soemtimes he was caring and other times really cold. But I guess he done it because he was upset.
I just don’t know my boundaries anymore, it feels like I have stretched them so far that I don’t know what I am meant to do anymore.
I remember when I was coming back here, my whole body started to shut down, and I was starting to feel ill. I did not want to go on that plane.
Since I came back I just been feeling really low. Feeling like everything is my fault. My partner says it is as well. He is just like usual and getting on with his life and I am an absolute wreck.
I miss feeling hopeful about the future.
I just see life from every angle, scared to make a decision. I am so used to living for everyone else.
February 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm #97661AnonymousGuestDear Ann87:
It seems to me that you are in an unhealthy relationship. After all, you feel like “an absolute wreck.” Your body knows you don’t want to be in this relationship because it shut down on the way back “home”- living with him. You felt ill. You didn’t want to go back to him.
I am glad you are safe and fine following the abortion and that you chose wisely- for the sake of a future child- to not bring one into this situation: good choice!
It is a shame that you had two disappointing relationships in a row. i hope you end your relationship with your current boyfriend, with the threesome girlfriend … and move somewhere you are safe, treated with empathy and respect.
Somewhere along the way you forgot you are a valuable, lovable human being that deserves to be treated as such. This is something I forgot myself, and therefore I can relate to you forgetting this… I didn’t know I deserved so much better than the situations I was in. Choose your situations.
And please do post again.
anita
March 1, 2016 at 2:31 am #97704Ann87ParticipantDear Anita,
I can not thank you enough for this lovely response. Sometimes you just need that bit of extra to help you see the light
in the end of the tunnel. I am sorry to hear you’ve had a time when you forgot how valuable you are but I guess it is those
dark times we learn about our existence.I think I have always known what the right path for me to take. I have lied to myself for so long and I know I have.
I want to take time to learn from this and ask me why I thought the need of lying to myself.I think it is time for me to flourish and learn how be by myself surrounded by people I love.
It is funny how the body can tell you what it thinks is right for you- I have ignored all those signs because I thought
my partner could offer me something that I thought I did not have.Thank you Anita, hope you’re well.
Best wishes,
Ann
March 1, 2016 at 7:20 am #97714AnonymousGuestDear Ann87:
You are welcome and thank you for the well wishes. Do listen to your body, pay attention to your emotions, they have messages for you. Each emotion carries a message. Listen to it. Figure out what the message is.
You wrote that you thought that your partner could offer you something you did not have. We all look for connections with other. We need to connect as the social animals that we are. It is in our genes. The thing is that a connection with another needs to be a Win-Win, so you don’t lose yourself in the connection.
Please do post anytime. Keep this thread going, if you’d like. I will keep replying to you.
anita
March 1, 2016 at 3:03 pm #97776Ann87ParticipantHi Anita,
Again, thank you for your kind reply.
Do you know what worries me the most- that I think I am the one that is in the wrong. That I might be insecure and too sensitive to be in a relationship with him.
When I first met him, I looked up to him. We share the same interest and he is extremely talented in what he does.
I met him at a gig he was playing and after that we started messaging on Facebook and it was always messages about music. I spent hours every night messaging him, not knowing that he had a girlfriend. It always felt that I had to make myself out to be someone I was not or even a side of me that I had not yet explored. Sorry it might sound very confusing. All I knew was that I wanted someone and I felt such a strong attraction to him.
We met just us two a couple of times before we decided to get together and I always had a funny feeling in my stomach. I felt like I was a teenager again feeling “in love” for the first time. I also acknowledged that I could not really be myself, it fel like adapted myself too much for him. But I guess that can be a common thing when you fall in love sometimes.
When we met I felt like I was drained on energy, not that he done anything wrong it was just how I felt.
And I became depressed when I moved in with him, and I don’t know why. He was taking care of me and made me feel like everything was going to be ok. I told myself so many things during this times. That when I felt unsure it was just because I had an abusive boyfriend in the past or that I am not as practical as my current boyfriend and that I felt inferior.
I remember once that when I was speaking about something that happened during my travels with my sister, a fun story, he just looked at me and asked why I always have to talk about myself. I felt really hurt and started to think I always was and am, so I stopped talking abou things to him, I stopped sharing things. Which is so important for me in a relationship.
I travelled with him and his family to Italy every summer for three years. And I just think it gets too much sometimes. As I live just next to his parent and also have to travel with them. I think we are very different which is absolutely fine, it’s just that I never really enjoys their company that much, which is a horrible thing to say. I just kept on wishing I was somewhere else. Last summer his parents wanted to spend every day with us, and I gentle told him that it would be nice I we could spend a whole day together without his parents and he just asked me if I hate his parents.
I do not honstely know if I am just complaining, if I am not understanding enough. It is just that I always try to understand people even if it hurts me in the process.
I find him so much better than me and I do not know how I would feel if I did not have him in my life.
It does not seem that he values what I value in a relationship and therefore I have devalued my values in order to be with him.
I can myself starting to resent him and I wonder if I am that kind of person. When I am not with him I feel more at ease. There’s no nagging voice in the back of my head.
I can not help thinking it’s all my fault because I have had two failed relationships before this.
My family back home are really worried about me and gave me the option to come home for a couple of weeks and it sounded like a good option although I don’t like admitting I can’t handle things on my own. When I told my partner he said that my family are manipulating me because they want me to move home and then he added that he would break up with me if I went.
He thinks that our whole break ad my feelings are completely my fault and blames it on my depression and sensitivity. The more I am around him the more I think so too. And that’s why I am so confused. He said that what I wa ls doing was emotional abuse and now I see myself as such.
We usually have nights where we sit and drink some wine- which is our quality time spent together. And he always sits on his phone. I know it might be a little thing but we never really talk during those nights. At first I thought it was strange and quit hurtful, that I used to go in to the toilet and cry. I sometimes told him that I felt ignored and hurt but he would respond in that he doing something important. I know it might sound foolish to be upset over such a thing but it never seemed like he had any interest in us.
The other night he left me when I was taking about something from my childhood, not in a negative way at all, and just said can you never speak about anything positive like music. He went to the couch and fell asleep and left my crying in the kitchen.I don’t know, maybe I’m overreacting and I am to sensitive. I wish I wasn’t. It’s like I wish I was more like him. Never question anything just get one with life. But that is just far from me.
I have lived with him for three years, in his house, with his parents, friends with all his friends and relatives.
He rarely interest himself for my culture, my language or where I am from. It feels like I am giving him that because I want to or at least wanted to but I do not think he would do the same for me. Or I know he wouldn’t do the same for me.I have also seen messages coming up on his phone from a fifteen years younger girl that he is messaging with every day, several times. Maybe he does it for the attention, what do I know. Somewhere deep down I can’t help but think that he could easily move on to her as he did with his ex to me.
And then I would be by myself, confused and hurt, all alone again. Too sensitive and too fragile for anyone too love.
But then again on good days I say bring it on, I want to be by myself for awhile, learn and explore and learn that it is ok to be me.
Sorry for the long message, it must be confusing to read. It feels nice to have a place where it’s ok to speak about what’s goon on. I am grateful for that.
March 1, 2016 at 3:34 pm #97782AnonymousGuestDear Ann87:
It is okay: I was okay reading your long message. It wasn’t too long and not at all confusing to me.
It is clear to me, having processed your posts in my brain, that this is not a good or healthy relationship for you. He is not interested in your thoughts, your feelings, your history..your life experience. So you understandably feel lonely, isolated. A person needs to be known and you live as if …almost as if you don’t exist.
He accused your parents for trying to manipulate you by offering you stay with them for a while and while he was accusing them of manipulating you, he manipulated you by telling you that he will break up with you if you stay with them. He also accused you of being abusive to him (did I get it right?) when the truth is that he is abusive to you, rude, disrespectful.
And you accommodated him, you adapted, as you wrote, to the relationship by… almost not existing, not being you: not sharing about yourself, about your own experience of life! This is not a way to live, shouldn’t be.
This relationship, the way you live, if you didn’t have a choice, if you were a child… but you have a choice, only I guess you feel as weak as a young child, as if you HAVE TO adapt to him and living with him and his parents, as if you have to.
Do write again. I understand that weakness, that lack of knowing you are valuable, loving and lovable. I lived that way most of my life. Recognizing it is very painful. But living it is… well, you know how it is.
Please do post again, anytime!
anita
March 1, 2016 at 3:36 pm #97783Ann87ParticipantAnother thing, I read so many things about low self esteem and I guess I can see myself having such a thing. Although I have been aware of this for a long time I have taken healthy steps in order to change my mindset. It’s just when it comes to my relationship with my partner.
I grew up in a home where my mum was depressed and my dad emotionally unavailable. From when I was young I thought I had to carry the happiness for my family so I tried to hide all other feelings. I was considered as the good girl. Music became very important for me as a way to express myself and it still is today, which I am grateful for. My dad never understood why I was doing music and I was longing for his approval.
I yearned for emotional closeness and approval.
In my late teens I developed an eating disorder as I could not handle my feelings very well I wanted to take control over something and food was the easiest.
I have always looked for love around every corner and when I met my ex boyfriend I was over the moon. I did really love him and tried to understand him. After our breakup we both had intercourse but when I said no he did not stop for a long time. He used to tell me that I was strange for doing music and being so emotional. He wanted to have threesomes with me and other girls and he always told me that I wasn’t pretty enough.
I do not think I have grieved for the being so hurt by the person I loved.
My current partner would never hurt me intentionally, I think. That’s why I should be greatful for him.
So back to the low self esteem. I have managed to change myself toward my parents and today I have the most loving relationship with my whole family. Me and my dad are super close.
I think my partner reminded me of my dad when I was growing up- something familiar. Although he validated my music I did not feel emotional closeness to him. It’s like I am hurting again as I was when I was a child.
I find myself being quite assertive with other relationships and I dot mind telling other what I think and feel. But when it comes to my partner I just freeze. And I do not understand why. I’m afraid. He says that I just grow some balls and stop acting like a child. And maybe that’s true. It’s just confusing when I do not feel like that in other situations in my life.
I can not honestly know if I am not making progress in this relationship because of my low selfesteem or that I can not leave because of it or that I shouldn’t be in it in the first place. I know that I can be self destructive.
Maybe I need some time to heal.
March 1, 2016 at 3:54 pm #97786AnonymousGuestDear Ann87:
Yes, you need time to heal. I believe the situation is that you have low self esteem AND you are in a bad relationship. Both.
I don’t like your boyfriend, from your descriptions. He may be better than your boyfriend before him (you compared in the post above) but this is still bad. May be worse, but it is still bad.
You need to be seen, to be heard. You have that right, inherent right… human right.
You were injured by your original family, your parents not being available to you. The patterns were set then.
I think it would be a great idea, if possible, for your parents to pay for good psychotherapy for you, since your relationships with them is good now! They are responsible for the injury they caused you and the consequences of that injury from which you are suffering now. It is only right that they will pay for psychotherapy for you. Your last sentence is “I need some time to heal”- I would add: time and professional help, a competent, caring, hard working and dedicated psychotherapist!
Post again, anytime.
anita
March 16, 2016 at 2:32 am #99132Ann87ParticipantHi again,
Internally grateful for your support Anita.
I woke up so confused today – again. The last few weeks have been quite good, I made a promise to myself to take each day as it comes
and practise mindfulness- in that way I can fully present with myself and accept thoughts as they pass.After last time we spoke I travelled back home to my family and I have been here for a few weeks. I’ve not heard from my partner and I think it is really getting to me. Which I know is silly, as I was the one who initiated the first “break” and went home again. I just feel confused and trying to figure out that my thoughts and feelings might have been wrong. That I might have been overreacting and that I have a fear of commiting.
I noticed that his father has unfriended me from facebook as well – I don’t know what to think about that.
Before I went home I explained to my partner that i it was what I needed and wanted, also for financial reasons, as I don’t have a job at the moment. My partner constantly reminded me that he thought I was going away for two long, after all that I put him through over the last three months (emotional abuse) and that I should have asked him what he felt about it. He also added that he didn’t want me to go home at all. He repeated these things over and over again and when I told him that I had already said the reason why I was going home and said that I understodd his reasons but that I was still going home – he just said that he was never going to tell me how he was feeling and thinking again ever again.
On the day when I went home he called me on the airport and said that whatever makes you happy I’m ok with and don’t think about me. He just repeated this phrase over and over. He also said that he wanted us to go away one weekend but that was impossible now because I was going home. He also said that he wanted to watch tv all day and would have wanted to do so with me but that it was impossible because I was going away. He told me that he felt so deep and emotional.
The thing here – is that my gut feeling never thinks this is honest and genuine. It rather sounds like he trying to implicate guilt. But what do I know – what if he really does mean everything. And really, I am the one that is a horrible person. How can I tell the difference. I have even looked up narcissistic traits on internet and wondered if it is somethings seriously wrong with me.
I sent him a text the other day and was just wondering how he was feeling, but he didn’t reply.
I can’t find the reasons so easily why this has happened. Why I can’t be happy. Why I can’t be with him. Maybe I don’t know what love is.
I am trying to think about the reasons why I have been feeling lonely, ignored and confused throughout the relationship and I am thinking it my be all my fault.
I took your advice and found a good therapist, and I have talked about my ex abusive partner which I found really helpful. I think I am still blaming myself for a lot of things that I was going on. I’ve not talked much about his relationship yet- but she said that it sounded like he was displaying narcissistic traits.
I still go back in my mind and think that I never should have said anything- I should have just done gone on with the relationship. Everyone would have been happy. I just felt so confused. I felt so scared.
It’s just so hard because there was good times too. And I am reading so much on internet about relationships that it is making me even more sad.
Maybe everything is my fault. And there is something wrong with me. I just feel that my heart feels lighter when I am not around him.
I am just scared to think that I have made a big mistake. And that I focused on the negatives throughout the relationship. Maybe i thought he was better than me and felt insecure.
On my good days I don’t think relationships are all there is to this world. There is so much else to explore. But on days like these it feels just to hard to anything else.
Best wishes, Ann
March 16, 2016 at 2:35 am #99134Ann87ParticipantHe also told me when I was with him that he will do what he wants and I should do what I want and then we’ll see. Not all in a nice way. He also added that he can get anyone he wants just so I know.
And maybe he is just protecting himself, and I should have understanding for it.
I do not have any clear boundaries anymore.
I know I am far from perfect. I know that. And in this relationship I’ve been so closed off and disconnected. And I don’t know why.
March 16, 2016 at 12:11 pm #99176AnonymousGuestDear Ann:
You are suffering from an injury, a mental injury that is sending pain and confusion in so many directions and you are doubting yourself, not knowing, simply… not knowing. I hope this psychotherapist you are seeing is competent and will help you understand the injury and start the healing process.
Please pay attention, Ann: even if there is something wrong with you and you are … faulty and guilty and what not, this guy whom you call your “partner” is faulty and guilty himself. And he is not a good match for you. He has been and will continue to deepen the injury you are already suffering from.
The fact that you are confused and not well, does not make people outside of you healthy and loving and so forth. There is lots of sickness and harm that lots of people inflict on others.
He is not your partner, not in health. He is a partner to your sickness, to your confusion.
There is nothing I can do in this message to un-confuse you. It will be a process, over time. Any way I can help with the starting of the process, now that you are away from him (necessary for your healing, to be away from him)- let me know.
Once you are back to him- you choose more sickness.
Ann, try to accept your confusion and guilty feelings without believing your guilty feelings, but understanding that you are not well. And so, be gentle with yourself and attend good psychotherapy.
If you had a young child who was hurting, and that child had a “friend” who was beating up the young child whenever they got together, would you let that young child be in the physical presence of that “friend”?
What if the young child said to you: “But I love him. It is my fault he is beating me up! I am bad and I deserve it! it is not his fault he is beating me up, it is my fault!” Will you believe that young child and let him spend time with the “friend” for more beating?
anita
March 18, 2016 at 10:45 am #99390Ann87ParticipantThank you so much Anita for your kindness and beautiful response.
I found, thanks to your answer some relief in my constant confusion and I am thankful for it.
I know it goes up and down – some days I feel ok and some days I feel like I do not know anything and I am trying to look for
answers that might not even exist.I think because it’s the first time in a very long time I stand by myself – and a future that is uncertain (although everyone’s is)
and I have many choices of what I can do.It seems like today I can only see the positive sides of our relationship – although like you said in brings a lot of hurt and confusion.
As I lived there for 3 years I battled with this confusion, so I have in some ways gotten used to it and therefor I am not sure what I think and want in the whole thing.
It is hard as I built up my own thing during those years. Became friends with all his friends and so on. And we shared music together which is one of my biggest passions in life.
I become confuse as I do not know if I have overreacted to a lot of things and if I become so low sometimes that I can’t see clear for what things are. I am confused as I enjoyed my life that I built up for myself that seems to be all gone and I do not have much for myself anymore.
Sorry it might sound confusing – it is almost like a feeling in me wanting to take it all back, just going on as normal, keeping everyone happy around me because I had a sense of belonging.
It feels like I wanted so many other things when I was there and now I want back to the things that I left – so there must be something wrong with me.
I wonder if I should have tried more – adapted more – and trying to understand my partner in his “ways” that he loved me.
I do feel calm when I am back home though and I feel like I have time for myself to do whatever I want.
I am just scared that his behaviour was normal and it is just me- feeling low and ungrateful. If I made myself feel dissapointed with too high demands and expectations.
I know that I wasn’t ready for this relationship right from the start and I had a strange feeling about it back then. But there he was totally in love with me, he saw things that I had a hard time seeing. I felt in love like I was 16 again and I felt less than him, little and confused. I do not know why I felt like that – all I know was that I was so confused right from the start.
When I think back of the relationship before then – I was never confused, I felt so sure about what I wanted. ALthough the relationship became very abusive in the end I was still hanging on, not wanting to let go. My boundaries was totally broken and I felt so hurt and confused – but I was certain that I wanted to be with him. But did I want him or someone to be with.
I never processed these feelings as I met other people straight after the break up and then I met my current partner. And he wanted me and expressed his love for me – And I wanted it to work.
I am sitting here 3 years later wondering what could I have done differently. Sitting here wishing I was different. That I could just be happy in this relationship because it is all I ever wanted (on paper). And wondering what I have done these last 3 years confused and hurt, and constant hiding it away.
This last while just reminds me of my last breakup – especially when my partner tells me he could get anyone he wants and that he should find someone that is as positive as him, and that I should find someone with a shitty behaviour just like mine.
I didn’t want to leave my current partner because I was afraid of all the hurt deep down that I have never processed. I was afraid of all this confusion would leave to that it is something wrong with me – unlovable – and that I would do a mistake.
Constant worries of “was it really that bad” – no I don’t think so. But why did my body respond in such a way. During 3 years I have tried to adapt and fit in – and I belive I have grown as well as a person. What if hurt wounds from the past keep me from wanting and being happy in this relationship or I am wishing for something that will never be.
I am wondering if we never spoke openly about anything. should I have tried more. Why did I feel so lonley? I wonder if it would have been different if he hadn’t stayed so close to his parents as it seemed that he relied so much on them and not on me. And why did I start missing my home during our relationship as I have never done this before. I remember in the past relationship that I could habe gone anywhere with him, we talked about moving to all different places.
I blame myself for all my thoughts about wanting to be alone, or educating myself, moving somewhere different and so on.
I wonder what a relationship should be like – what is normal to feel and how you should feel. Am I not trusting myself, Can a human stop listening to themselves and ignore everything the body is signalling.
He was always happy – maybe he is just like that. And I am not. But I do feel like a happy person and have always been – although I have my ups and downs.
I am worried that I am destructive in my love relationships and do not know the boundaries that well. All other relationships I belive are very close and very healthy. So what is it with close love relationships that I can’t handle.
When I think about my partner I see so many different sides that I do not know how to describe him. I wonder why we mooved in so fast in the beginning without really knowing each other. And why I became depressed the first 6 months. It felt like I was going against my own will but thought that this is all I ever wanted – this lifestyle.
Know when I finally starting to talk about what I need and want he only tells me that he miss the old me – the girl he met. Who was she? From the outside she looked happy, bubbly and kind. Inside she was confused, hurt and missing something.
Sometimes I think how everyone is probably confused and that I just acted on the confusion – when I tried to talk to my partner he told me that everyone wants different lifes some times – and that is probably true. It feels like I have hurt so many people acting on my confusion. Thinking that my therapist that told me he desplayed manipulative and controlling behaviour that she did not understand the context. It was like living in a bubble – a bubble I wasn’t familiar with. And now I stand outside the bubble looking in – sometimes wishing I could come in. But as my partner haven’t answered my message there is no chance of getting in that bubble again.
All relationships have problems – I just wonder why I couldn’t live with mine, while he could. Only he did not think we had problems – he thought I was the problem, my thoughts and my mind.
I am sorry for yet another long confusing message. It feels safe writing my thought in this lovely forum – and I am grateful for your support.
It is just that it hurts when it feels like everything is happening again – a break up and hurtful words are shared. I am thinking as my partner messaged this young girl about 15 years younger that himself that he has moved on (as that was the way he met me and messaged me the first time while he had a girlfriend, which I had no idea about). But I guess that is my own fault.
It feels like things I expressed I wanted – I don’t want anymore. That we never talked about the future – about having kids. I’m now thinking do I even want to have kids.
For three years I have ignored so many feelings as I enjoyed the life I was living – but in the end feelings got a hold over me. It is hard to think that I had so many things I enjoyed but that the relationship caused so much confusion.
Am i painting up a more beautiful picture – ignoring what I feel and have felt inside.
Best wishes/ Ann
March 18, 2016 at 12:22 pm #99416AnonymousGuestDear Ann:
I am tired at the moment and would have liked to read your last post more attentively, and I will, later. For now, two comments:
You asked: “Can a human stop listening to themselves and ignore everything the body is signalling”? My answer is Yes, absolutely, only the body will not stop signaling until you do pay attention. Reality does not accommodate anything but seeing reality for what it is. Confusion means you are not seeing reality for what it is. You are seeing here and there and mostly you are in the dark. Turning the lights on- and confusion gone! Only turning the lights on (in this context) is a process, not a one time event.
When you wrote in this very last post: “Only he did not think we had problems – he thought I was the problem, my thoughts and my mind.”- All the times he delivered to you this message, in so many words, every time, it is like he was switching the light switches off and keeping you in the dark and you let him. That sentence in itself is very revealing, on its own. The guy is manipulative and cruel, manipulating you to keep being confused.
I hope you never go back to living with him, it is dark over there. Comfortable at times, I understand, but dark and your confusion will be welcomed there with him. He will keep turning the lights off on you so that your confusion will continue.
Don’t go back there, please! Stay where you are for now, and get used to the light. See more and more of what is….
anita
March 22, 2016 at 4:55 am #99807Ann87ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you again for you kind response.
You are right- one can stop listening to the body and find oneself not seeing reality for what it is.
I know that I’m a person who seeks for answers – I guess that is one of my downsides and I have done it ever since I can remember.
It’s just that I’ve stopped listening to my body a long time ago.
After my break up with my ex boyfriend I still wanted what we had – I sense of belonging. I remember that, although through sadness, I was pretty happy being by myself. I had the freedom to do whatever I chose. When I met my current partner he was so many things my ex boyfriend wasn’t – in fact, pretty much the opposite. I described him as kind.
I think I am still blaming myself for I still see him as kind. When I see other relationships they have problems too – nothing is perfect. Why couldn’t I live with the “imperfections” that my relationship brought. I learned to see the relationship from someone elses point of view – from the outside looking in it looked great. But I didn’t feel it. But so badly wanted to. I realised that I have tried to distract myself from the under lying feeling for so long, trying my best to ignore it.
I’ve had so many conflicting thoughts throughout this time – that when I listen I simply find answers for everything. For so long I’ve thought that my insecurity only depended on my past abusive relationship and the relationship to myself. I am scared to wake up and realise that my current partner only wanted the best for me (which he probably is) and I simply could not see it. Or feel it.
I ask myself if I can’t be happy living with someone else, If I have inflicted so much pain on this relationship, if I can not take responsibillity over my own life. WHat if I made problems up in my head?
But then I ask myself if after three years, i still feel confused and tired – is this relationship really good for me. Instead of thinking that of my past abuse I have to see this relationship for what it is. See I have looked up to him for such a long time and his way of living – that i have tried my best to fit in. And it really worked. It was close to perfect. I tried to hide my confusion and conflicting thought but everytime i was alone they showed up. I tried for so long to calm them down – making excuses for them. But why?
I had someone that really loved me. And I have hurt him a lot.
Sometimes I get angry – I let myself feel it – and it is directed at him. But maybe it is directed at me more.
It is just that I was with an obviously abusive boyfriend but still wanted to stay. And this current relationship I want to leave. He would never treat me like my ex boyfriend. And he has told me so.
I’ve read all terms about my current relationship – gasligthning and narcissistic traits and so on. But then I feel even more confused. what if I didn’t try hard enough. But then again I have tried for 3 years.
I am scared of the future sometimes – I spent so much time worrying about relationships that I feel this hole inside of me. To not have the knowing that someone loves me no matter what. (Although I know I have loving friends and family)
I ask myself can you really fall in to a trap of having 2 partners in a row that in different ways makes you more confused.
My current partner tells me that our fights have been absolutely normal – and that it is normal to fight. I know this too.
I fear that if I ever find someone else that I will feel exactly the same – and then I will know it’s been me all along. And that thought scares me.
What if I have been looking after faults in my current partner to make excuses for me to not stay. Or does it simply comes down to – if it would have been ok I would not be feeling like this. At all.
The thought of going back to him and his house, staying close to his parents scares me – and I won’t. When I think about it I feel a trapped feeling inside, which in turn makes me feel bad as there is nothing wrong with them.
I remember one summer when we were abroad – his family and I, and I was really confused and angry over the way they were treating each other. I thought it was unhealthy and I tried to make my partner see it too. I could see that he wasn’t feeling good at all and I told him to stand up for himself in the kindest way possible. After the trip me and my partner went home while his family stayed. I remember them calling giving him abuse – telling him that he ruined their whole stay and this and that. I remember when his sister got home they had big fights because just of that- he was saying no to abuse. One day after a small gathering, drinking some wine and so on, he had to go to work and he was driving. He made the conscious chose of driving and made sure that he didn’t drink too much the night before. I remember his sister shouting at me, that I wasn’t a good girlfriend and that i should have hidden the keys so that he couldn’t have driven and so on. I tried to calmly say that he is a grown up man that can make his own choices and that I will talk to her when she had calmed down. I just thought it was a strange behaviour for an adult. But then again what do I know, maybe this is perfectly normal.
But do i want it to be normal.In the end I rememeber my partner couldn’t take it anymore, it really got to him that his whole family was angry at him, which is understandable. He even once before that said that he wanted to move away from there and go somewhere else. BUt in the end he called and said that he was sorry and they didn’t say anything back. Nothing. From me looking in I thought it was very immature and actually quite horrible.
Do you know what I saw there, a glimpse of that person I thought he could be. Is that horrible to say. But someone that has emotional maturity to tell someone else when he thinks he is being treated bad. He can do that with me but not his family. Was it wrong of me to think that he could grow- maybe it was me trying to change him.
I still feel a strong attraction for him, we’ve spent 3 years together. And sometimes I wish I could give it another try to see if I can change my own ways.
I so badly wanted it to be him and me – and I have tried. Should it be this hard. So many times I wished I could be someone else.
I feel hurt that I couldn’t see what was good for me back then. It was almost like I liked being hurt. Especially with the threesome we were having with my friend. We even invited her to come with us on the holiday. I remember one night I just had to get away from there. Just the thought of all us staying in one bed just seemed to trigger what I really felt – hurt. And many times I think that is because of my ex relationship. I remember I walked along the streets in the middle of the night wondering why I was hurting myself. Was I testing his love for me. Was I luring my partner into a trap. In fact I didn’t enjoy their company at most of times. They got along so much better that me and my partner and I could see my friend falling for my partner (and I don’t blame her). I wonder if he was loving all the attention. As we never really spoke about it, as my partner didn’t really want to, I felt like I was falling more into the dark. Maybe it wasn’t such a big deal. Maybe it was harder than i thought.
I am scared that I was the one luring him into me feeling hurt. As I already did. Maybe I chose him to feel my hurt even more intense.
Maybe he didn’t not actually hurt me – I was already hurt.I wonder if I am making everything up – or do we not speak the same language. Have I wished that we did.
It seems like I woken up from a place of hurt and I am ready to start welcoming the light. I feel calm inside. I feel joy for the first time in a very long time. I feel free.
Maybe we just are so different. But my partner always tells me that I knew who he was three years ago and he has always been the same so I have to deal with it. But I want to grow in life. Sure my personality will always be with me, but i want to grow. It confused me as everything my partner has told me during 3 years he is changing now when we speak over the phone.
I had the question the other day why we moved in so fast- and I do not know. Practical reasons maybe. It all went so fast and too fast.
But there’s nothing I can do about that now.I think I just want the certainty that it hasn’t only been me throughout this relationship and legit to feel confused because of his behaviour. I do not why I need it but I do. I have adapted made excuses for so long – that I am tired of this confusion.
If it had worked. Would I really be where I am at the moment. If it had worked for me. Would I have felt hurt and confused or I am focusing too much on the negative sides on this relationship. Or is the negative to hard to live with.
Kind wishes
Ann
March 22, 2016 at 5:09 am #99809Ann87ParticipantSorry a little thing again. I wasn’t ready for a relationship when I met my partner I knew what as well. I wonder the whole time if it’s that feeling that never went away. Instead it have made me more confused. People have said that if it had worked you would have slowly begin to want to be in a relationship again. I wonder if that is true. I wonder that my fear of commiting has anything to do with it or that I have fear of commiting to him. I am sorry for my confusing thoughts. Maybe I am trying to find answers to something that does not need answers. Have I not been able to commit as I am not sure about this relationship. It is hard to live with all this doubt for myself. I never really felt that before.
I remember when I met my current partner he was everything my ex wasn’t so I thought that he would never hurt me or leave me. And he would not leave me. As far as I know. I wanted the opposite – but wonder if the opposite was good for me. If I would have taken the time to get back to myself and not hurried so in this relationship I would have made the right decision – and maybe that decision would have been that I didn’t need anyone at that moment in time. But it’s hard to say as I fell so strongly for him, yet maybe for all the wrong reasons.
Needing and wanting someone are two very different things.
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