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  • #457797
    anita
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    Good morning 🙂 Confused:

    Feeling anger doesn’t feel good to me. I wonder if it feels good to other people. Curious, I asked you know who.

    Copilot: “Yes — anger can feel good to some people, and this is not unusual.

    Why anger can feel good- Research shows that anger can activate the brain’s reward system, especially the nucleus accumbens, which is involved in motivation and pleasure. When someone gets angry, the brain can release dopamine, the same chemical involved in reward and anticipation. This can create a brief sense of power, energy, or relief.

    Some people experience anger as “good” because:

    * It replaces feelings like helplessness or shame with a sense of control.

    * It provides a rush or surge of energy that feels rewarding.

    * It can feel empowering, especially when calling out injustice or protecting oneself.

    This doesn’t mean anger is always healthy — just that the body sometimes interprets it as useful or energizing.

    But the relief is temporary- Even though anger can feel good in the moment, research shows that venting anger actually increases anger, not decreases it. So, the short-term “rush” can lead to long-term emotional strain.”

    The above explains why my mother was often angry at me: it made her feel (temporarily) good, as in powerful, in control.

    Because I am at the computer, I asked Copilot another question.

    Copilot: 🎶 Modern Greek songs people in their 30s usually know:

    Μη Με Ξυπνάς — Melisses, Έλα — Κωνσταντίνος Αργυρός, Θυμάμαι — Melisses, Μισή Καρδιά — Κωνσταντίνος Αργυρός
    , Αν Μ’ Αγαπάς — Νίκος Οικονομόπουλος, Κόκκινα Γυαλιά — Πυξ Λαξ, Όλα Μοιάζουν Καλοκαίρι — Melisses, Σ’ Έχω Ξεπεράσει — Πάνος Κιάμος, Το Παλιό Μου Παλτό — Γιάννης Χαρούλης, Μικρή Μου Αγάπη — Μιχάλης Χατζηγιάννης

    Do you know all of these songs?

    🎶 Anita

    #457794
    anita
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    One more thing, Starlight1, regarding both of your threads: thank you for being honest with me and setting your boundaries with me- I appreciate it, it helps me. Thank you!

    #457793
    anita
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    Hi again, Starlight 🌟

    Thank you for explaining more. It makes sense that you’d want to slow down and rest, especially when you’re feeling run down. Taking care of yourself comes first, always.

    I hear what you’re saying about stories and how much the tone, context, and the storyteller’s sensitivity matter. You’re right — a good storyteller pays attention to boundaries, and a good listener also protects their own wellbeing. It sounds like you’re seeing more clearly now how those biblical stories felt overwhelming without enough context, and how easy it is to forget self‑care in the middle of it.

    I appreciate you sharing your thoughts with me. There’s no pressure to look at resources or to continue the conversation unless it feels right for you. Resting and giving yourself some gentleness sounds like a wise choice.

    Warmly, Anita 🌿

    #457792
    anita
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    Hi Starlight 🌟

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I hear that these topics feel complicated for you, and that going deeper right now might be too much. That’s completely okay. You don’t owe me a long reply, and you don’t have to continue before you feel ready.

    I also hear that your past wasn’t only one thing — not only harm, not only good — and that it’s hard to talk about it without feeling like your own voice might get overshadowed. I’ll pay attention to not define your story for you. Your perspective matters, and you get to set the pace and the boundaries.

    If you ever want to talk more, I’m here. And if you need space, that’s perfectly fine too. Please take care of yourself in the way that feels right for you.

    Warmly, Anita 🌿

    #457782
    anita
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    Going to bed at 9:30 pm, Sat, here (W.USA); Sun 7:30 am in Greece & in Israel. Good night/ morning, Confused.

    #457781
    anita
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    Hey Confused (using computer):

    First, I want to tell you that you made my day (well, evening here) by posting- no one posted on the forums today but me. And then, you did! Makes me feel better just because you posted!

    “Maybe I should have been more like you..”- ha-ha, you’re funny, funny and very intelligent, Confused.

    I suppressed a lot too, but not so much the anger. I was so angry for so long, like boiling water inside.

    I don’t think you’d want to be more like me in this regard: angry (let me ask Copilot for an appropriate emoji or emojis).. 😠 😤 😣 😡 😾 😕 😑 😒

    “But now I want to appreciate and feel love truly”- I keep wanting to give answers, if only I could.

    I am listening to Israeli music right now. Do you like Greek music?

    Anita

    #457779
    anita
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    * edit: 3-4 afternoons- evenings with people at the Winery Every week.

    #457778
    anita
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    I am posting a month and a day following my last post right above:

    A few changes have happened recently in my life: the Winery where I used to work at (without pay) almost every single day for 4+ years and where I spent 3-4 afternoons- evenings with people socializing, drinking 🍷 and sometimes dancing 💃 to live music, closed Dec last year.

    Next, the taproom where I socialized countless of late afternoons for 5+ years closed last month, and no new in-real- life social opportunity opened up for me.

    All through the years, ever since May 2015- before the taproom and before the winery- I socialized with people right here on these tiny buddha forums (excluding a 6- months break when I still read the forums every day).

    I was never too busy in real – life to not be fully involved here.

    Often it was busy here, but lately, like today, it’s deathly quiet here, and the only person who submitted any posts is me.

    So, there’re changes.

    The 👍 was meeting Bogart the beagle for the first time back in Dec last year (right after the Winery closed) and bringing him home.

    I sure hope to post something socially positive soon.

    Anita

    #457777
    anita
    Participant

    What I was trying to say above, Confused, is that I really admire the strength of the boy- Confused who in the midst of ongoing abuse and the great emotional pain and turmoil that it caused you, you wisely (instinctively, not a matter of a self-aware choosing), shut down his feelings.

    It makes perfect sense that you did. It was self- protective.

    Fast forward, she has been deceased for quite some time, but the emotional shutdown has become an internal habit, just the way it’s been for so long.

    Again, I see why you needed INTENSE feelings to cut through the thick crust of emotional shutdown/ anhedonia.

    Yet, intense feelings cannot be sustained.

    So, is there another way to cut through the anhedonia?

    Not in the fast, dramatic, intense way of the past, but slowly- as in one little step at a time: see Copilot’s # 1 in two posts ago, less than 11 hours ago.

    🌿 🌟 Anita

    #457776
    anita
    Participant

    How R U, Thomas? 🙂

    #457775
    anita
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    Hi again, Starlight1 🌟:

    I would like to develop my thoughts about forgiveness and conflated issues in the context of my life experience.

    I am not at all telling you how it is for you, or how it should be.

    This is my personal reflection that maybe will help you somewhat (it will probably help me because developing my thoughts this way often helps me):

    First, forgiveness is a personal choice. It’s up to me 2-forgive or not-2-forgive.

    It’s part of my agency, my right, my perogative- nothing that anyone else has the right to pressure or force me to do.

    It’s not up to the perpetrator to pressure me to forgive her (or him), and it’s not up to any religious doctrine to pressure me either. It’s no one’s business but my own.

    * To forgive, for me, means to let go of the anger at the person who harmed me- Not to approve of or excuse the harm perpetrated against me, but to let go of the anger.

    I will let go of the anger only if and when I no longer feel threatened by the perpetrator.

    As long as I feel threatened, I need the anger to protect me.

    As far as me harming others- I regret every time I did, and my strong resolve is to Do-No-Harm.

    Harming others in the past does not excuse someone else harming me (except if the person I just harmed is defending herself or reacting angrily to my abuse).

    Secondly, forgiving someone does not mean interacting with them. I can forgive (let go of anger) and never interact with the person again.

    * Even though my mother is a very old woman, I can’t and won’t interact with her (haven’t for 12-13 years) because I’m still afraid of her. Not that she can hit me, I suppose, not physically- but because she can still shame and guilt-trip me. The pain of those things is still vivid in me.

    Strange perhaps, I still love her and I’m still afraid of her, such is the Nature of Trauma Bonding.

    So, I am choosing to forgive my mother and to never see her or hear her in real- life. Not so to punish her but so to protect the little girl within myself (aka inner child) because.. she’s afraid, understandably, rightfully.

    And I will never blame the girl within me for being afraid. She has her valid reasons.

    My protection from my mother is continued zero interaction. Secure in this protection ( no longer feeling guilty for protecting myself this way), I can let go of the anger. Amen.

    That’s it, Starlight1 🌟

    Again, these are my personal conflating-undoing
    thoughts 🙂. I hope to read yours.

    🌿 ✨️ Anita

    #457774
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Starlight1 🌟

    I am glad you did some spontaneous art and that it helped you!

    I reread all your posts in this thread, so this reply is about everything you shared here.

    In your most recent post, you wrote: “these issues have become confused or conflated… sometimes forgiveness becomes confused with reconciliation with the other person(s).”-

    Please let me know if my thinking in what follows is true to you, or not exactly (I’ll use upper case for the different issues that became conflated)

    * FORGIVING OTHERS has become tangled with FORGIVING YOURSELF — as in, you have to forgive others if you ever did anything wrong yourself.

    * RECONCILIATION got tangled with FORGIVING OTHERS- as in, forgiving others means you must reconnect and interact with them.

    Your CREATIVE BLOCK got tangled with EMOTIONAL HARM (by your mother and the woman in church). Both experiences made you feel that you and your creativity existed only to serve other people, not yourself. Because of that, when you think about art, you may also be thinking about guilt, pressure, and being used.

    And underneath all of this sit RELIGIOUS MESSAGES that taught you that you must forgive others in order for God to forgive you. Those teachings got mixed with your personal experiences of being used, pressured, and guilt‑tripped (emotional harm)

    This may create a loop where you want to protect yourself by not forgiving, but you also fear you are doing something spiritually wrong.

    About emotional harm: when a parent expects a child to support their needs, dreams, or emotional stability, the child learns that their own desires are secondary.

    Instead of being supported in exploring art, you were told to give up your path so that your mother could pursue hers. That kind of role‑reversal teaches a child to silence their own feelings, to feel guilty for wanting things, and to associate creativity with obligation rather than freedom.

    Over time, this can create a deep internal block — because every time the child reaches toward their own creativity, the old message returns: “Your needs don’t matter. Someone else comes first.”

    Your mother’s voice (as well as the church’s) sounds like guilt, pressure, duty, and the idea that you must sacrifice your own needs.

    Your own voice is quieter — it shows up in your spontaneous art, your curiosity, your desire to understand yourself, and the longing for creative freedom. One helpful way to connect with your quieter voice is through small acts of creativity that have no purpose except expression, just like the spontaneous art you shared about in your recent post. Over time, you can learn to treat the others’ voices as an old echo, and hear your own, authentic voice clearly.

    Anita

    #457773
    anita
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    Hi Starlight1: Good to read back from you and looking forward to you replying when you’re ready 🤍🙏

    #457769
    anita
    Participant

    I think 🤔 that I am getting new insight into myself because of you:

    If I read about your anhedonia when I was growing up / living with my mother, I would have been jealous of you!

    Because not feeling would have been so much better than the pain (shame, guilt, self-doubt) that tormented me growing up.

    So, again, I think you did an excellent job (when you were growing up) numbing/ shutting down/ suppressing your emotions- a way superior job to mine 👏

    But now, what worked before (when living with your mother) is not serving you anymore.. because your GF is.. not like your mother. Maybe no one is like her.

    Back to me, I wish I was able to not feel back then.

    I did my best suppressing, just not as good a job as you did.

    🌿 🌟 🌿 Anita

    #457768
    anita
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    Hey Dear Confused:

    Oh, I think I see why you needed INTENSE feelings- because it takes Intensity to break through the Anhedonia!

    What caused the anhedonia?

    Severe Emotional Suppression (SES- I just made up this acronym) is my figuring.

    I think that you did such a good job suppressing, that it’s difficult to undo it.

    Wait ✋️.. okay 👍, emojis 😳 are showing up, I was concerned 😟

    🌿 Anita

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