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March 2, 2026 at 7:58 pm #455634
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
It’s kind of you to reassure me.
I don’t think it was the CBT/ mindfulness itself that encouraged me to Feel. I think it was about someone caring to know how I truly feel ๐
My feelings in general were all numbed in some depression combo soup ๐ฒ for way too long.
She didn’t reciprocate your early love for you, was suspicious of you, hugged and apologized to you after hitting you-
How, what.. how did it make you feel?
๐ฒ๐๐ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 7:28 pm #455633
anitaParticipantHi Dear Peter:
Talking about wars, as you know, one is taking place right now and religion is a big part of it. A metaphor that comes to mind (an incentive for committing mass murder): virgins in heaven or paradise as the reward for martridom.
Would be, what’s the word.. helpful to replace that metaphor.
I have some family I care about in a country that’s currently bombarded by missles from Iran and whatever one of their proxies is sending from the north, lesser powerful rockets.
The “messy, active work of relating” (your words)- What would it look like, for you, to messily relate?
For me, following the recent humility brought about by your valuable input โจ๏ธ, it’d mean.. maybe back to open fields of green ๐ grass, but it wouldn’t be running. It’d be like you said: falling and getting back up.
I think that this month it’d be 10 years since you first posted on tb (March 2016), less than a year since I first posted here (May 2015).
I know you’re 2 years younger than me. I think you live on the east coast while I live on the west. We both have tinnitus. You used to dance ๐บ (I miss dancing!) Do you still dance?
I’ll stop here. Just messy, human wondering.
๐บ๐๐ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 6:43 pm #455631
anitaParticipantDear Confused:
See ๐ the last sentence of your 3.5 hours ago message? – “I think I was seeing ๐ my mother as a threat too”-
It might not feel like much now, or ever since you were 13, but how did it feel earlier on?
I mean, a mother is supposed to be a safe, protective figure, not a threat.
Do you remember how you felt when you were 3 or 6 or 9 or 12?
As to your question my feelings (of love for my mother), flooding back or slowly? I can’t answer that. I can say it was surprising. I just didn’t remember that I felt love for her.. until I remembered the early love/ attachment.
Oh, that emotional attachment felt like starving for oxygen, and she- my mother- was the oxygen. Separation from her was unthinkable, like a certain death.
I hope this is not too intense for you to read.
I felt- remembered- that love years after I had therapy (it was CBT+mindfulness therapy, 2011-13).
๐ (my favorite emoji this evening), Anita
March 2, 2026 at 3:19 pm #455627
anitaParticipantHey Confused: I’ll reply in a few hours
March 2, 2026 at 2:30 pm #455625
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
“But how can it happen in a day? What can trigger it?”- I don’t know. But whatever happened (I am thinking) was not unnatural, and it made sense in an emotional sense.
Somehow, it’s what you needed right there and then, is what I think.
“Did you do that through therapy? U were suppressing love? (don’t answer if u don’t feel like it)”- thank you!
Things started with therapy, yes. And yes, I did suppress love and other emotions.
In regard to my mother, I experienced her as a threat, so I felt angry at her and wasn’t even aware that I ever loved her until recently. For most of my life, I wasn’t able to feel both love for her and anger at her. Recently, I am able to feel both.
๐ค๐ฟ ๐คโญ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 1:57 pm #455624
anitaParticipantHi Peter:
Thank you for saying “don’t be hard on yourself”, that’s kind of you to care to say this.
I’ll take your recommendation, or advice to not be hard on myself.
“The โdoingโ Iโm looking for involves moving beyond reflection and into the messy, active work of relating.”- hmm. The old messy me would analyze this statement to death but the new me will offer you a safe space, here, to just be, to relate further if you wish to relate; how, when, if.
A safe, relaxed space.
I just came back from a 1.5 Mile walk up the hill with my dog Bogart. I offered him the most relaxed walk, giving him the space to stop and explore, take his time, choose when to pause, when to resume the walk, no pressure, and he is now so relaxed with me.
I want to reread and think more about your recent message later. Thank you.
Anita
March 2, 2026 at 10:13 am #455621
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
Good reading from you, this 3rd day of war (3rd, right?). Been following the news regularly. Hoping for the best, praying for more peace, less war (I’d pray for peace-on-earth if it didn’t feel so unrealistic/ unimaginable). How do you feel about the war and otherwise, friend?
โ๏ธ ๐ โฎ๏ธ ๐ค โจ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 9:40 am #455619
anitaParticipantGood morning, Peter:
I am still reeling from this new awareness. This morning, I went over my 2016 communication with Norit (I brought up her old thread) and am somewhere between Humbled and Horrified to SEE how “hard and fixed” as well as ignorant/ lacking understanding my replies to her have been, however well intentioned.
And that ignorance did not stay in 2016, it’s continued to 2026.
It takes humility to not get overwhelmed by shame, witnessing this ignorance, short sightedness, one- lens- mind expressing itself with certainty, directiveness. Arrogance?
I suppose I did achieve or experience (I am now careful about words, “achieved” vs “experienced”) a measure of mental health to not collapse into shame and guilt, being as aware now (because of you, Peter, because of this thread) of the ignorance (single lensed-ness) shouting from the posts I have submitted.
You wrote, “Iโm realizing my own metaphor of the ‘Mirror’ has its limits. While I intend it to be a receptive, open space, it lacks the active ‘doing’ that a relationship sometimes needs to move forward.”-
I am curious about what you mean by “‘doing'”?
You wrote, “Iโm curious, as you engaged with the AI to walk through โmetaphors we live byโ, if your own relationship to language has changed? For me, the shift has been toward learning to hold language more lightly.”-
Yes, it is changing. I am- I intend to- I am ready to loosen my need for concreteness, single lensed-ness, black and white thinking; lessen the weight of rigidness. In other words, relax.
I am noticing though a bit of OCD now in regard to the words I use, questioning them, looking for a better word than what I just used? That’s a bit unsettling.
Unsettled yet Hopeful, Learning, Anita
March 1, 2026 at 8:14 pm #455613
anitaParticipantJust in case you answer soon, I’ll be back to the ๐ฑ or ๐ฅ Mon morning (it’s Sun night here) ๐
March 1, 2026 at 8:06 pm #455612
anitaParticipant* edit: since you were 13 (not 23, lol)
March 1, 2026 at 8:03 pm #455611
anitaParticipantOh, dear Confused (I feel close to you as I read your words this Sun night ๐, here).
You say you were disconnected from your mother/ parents since you were 23. But before 13, those 13 years of connection did not disappear.
The feeling of not knowing the person you felt close to before (coming to think about it, it’s like- at 13- not knowing your mother anymore, no longer feeling close to her.)
From my experience, it took me Reconnecting to the real life (childhood) experience (which I did my best to disconnect from).
Since I reconnected, got to feel what I did my best not to feel (love for my mother), my feelings for others are quite consistent.
So, yea, the feeling of not knowing those I felt close to before.. yes, it did go away.
๐๐ค๐ณ๐ข๐ ๐๐ค Anita
March 1, 2026 at 7:14 pm #455608
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
Like you don’t even know her.. I know the feeling!
For me, F was it (and I imagine it’s in addition to A and D).
For me, my early life experience was so powerful no matter how much and how long I avoided addressing it- it was, still is powerful.
You didn’t share, and it’s okay if you don’t.. what did your mother die of, what happened, how was it for you?
๐ Anita
March 1, 2026 at 6:27 pm #455605
anitaParticipantAbout fish ๐ oil, I am serious about it- it made a huge difference to me mentally. It’s brain- food.
I eat a can of sardines (high quality) in olive ๐ซ oil each and every day.
Try it, you don’t need a prescription for it.
๐ซ๐๐ง Anita
March 1, 2026 at 5:28 pm #455604
anitaParticipantDear still Confused ๐:
What I am thinking about something lacking from within you?
Let me put it in a multiple choice test question format (I am having a bit of fun with this)
Q: __?__ is lacking from within me.
Please fill in the blank with one, none, or any combination of the following:
A. Courage to move to a new country.
B. Courage to commit to a real-life, long term relationship.
C. Acceptance of who I am; the good, the bad and the ugly (so to speak, you may have nothing bad or ugly ๐ about you)
D. Courage to risk rejection.
E. A vitamin, a mineral, and/ or fish ๐ oil.
F. Healing from childhood trauma/ unfinished business from back then.
G. Willingness to replace every part of the fantasy about who she is, with reality.
H. I, J, K, L, M, N.
๐๐โจ๏ธ๐คช Anita
March 1, 2026 at 1:58 pm #455595
anitaParticipantHi Tom (Almost ๐4๏ธโฃ0๏ธโฃ๐ฅณ)
I just realized that we first talked when you were 30 (Dec 20, 2016), my goodness, time flies!
How about coming up with a purpose before your 40th birthday- not an objective purpose like getting a particular job, but something subjective, like… well, you tell me (if you will ๐)
โจ๏ธ Anita
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