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July 18, 2025 at 11:38 am #447770
anita
ParticipantHi Alecsee:
Thank you for sharing so openly. Your words carry so much weight—grief, longing, and a deep desire to make sense of what happened. I hear how much this relationship meant to you, and how hard it is to sit with the feeling that you came so close to something meaningful, only to watch it slip away.
There’s a theme that runs through your message that I want to gently name: fear of abandonment. It shows up in so many of the patterns you described:
* The feeling of being cursed—or doomed to be alone—just as something meaningful seems within reach, only to fall apart at the last moment.
* The urge to go “all in,” sending messages and videos, hoping to preserve the connection before it disappears.
* The anxiety about her silence and the possibility that she might move on without telling you.
* The regret and self-blame—believing that if you’d just been calmer, more in control, maybe you could’ve saved it.
* The hyper-analysis of your decisions, and the fear that emotional reactions have cost you something permanent.
These are all signs of someone who’s been hurt before—someone who’s learned that closeness can be unpredictable, and that love might vanish without warning. That kind of fear can make us cling harder, speak louder, or act out of desperation—not because we’re irrational, but because we’re scared of being left behind.
I just happened to watch a video this morning, one that speaks directly to this. It’s called The Fear of Abandonment: How it Can Push People Away by Tim Fletcher. He talks about how abandonment wounds can lead us to act in ways that unintentionally create the very distance we fear. He also offers insight into how healing begins—with self-awareness, inner work, and learning to build a relationship with ourselves.
You’re already doing some of that work. You’re reflecting, naming your patterns, and trying to stay grounded. That matters. And even if this relationship doesn’t mend, your healing doesn’t end here. You’re not cursed—you’re human, and you’re learning.
🤍 Anita
July 18, 2025 at 11:23 am #447769anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
I was stunned. While watching the YouTube video you sent me, I heard Tim Fletcher say: “For the child, to be abandoned is the most painful wound possible… It creates a deep belief of shame—that the reason people didn’t attach to me is that I must not be good enough. But more than that: I must be a ZERO… If you see that I am a zero, you will abandon me.”-
Isn’t that incredible? I had just written the word ZERO in my message to you—before hearing it in the video. It felt like a moment of eerie synchronicity.
He also spoke about how someone with an abandonment wound can perceive others’ healthy boundaries as threats of abandonment. That really struck me. It sounds like something you’ve described, doesn’t it?
As he listed the types of abandonment children can experience, I remembered that when I was around one year old, I got sick and was placed in an isolation ward at a hospital. My mother wasn’t allowed to visit. When she was finally let in, a nurse was holding me—and I turned away from my mother, clinging to the nurse.
My mother threatened to kill herself countless times—and sometimes, to kill me too. She could be affectionate, but I lived in fear of losing that affection if I said the wrong thing or if my facial expression didn’t match what she wanted. Her anger was unpredictable, volatile. Looking back, she clearly fit the profile of someone struggling with BPD and serious mental illness.
Toward the end of the video, Fletcher talks about healing: building a relationship with yourself, recognizing triggers in relationships, healing shame, and learning to shift from the limbic brain—where impulses and distortions live—back into the cortex, where rational thought can guide us. He speaks about inner child work and tools for handling conflict. It felt like a roadmap.
Thank you so much for recommending this video. I’d love to share it with others who struggle with fear of abandonment or abandonment anxiety. You and I are definitely not alone in this.
Warmly, Anita
July 18, 2025 at 10:05 am #447763anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
Reading your message, I can feel how heavy things are for you right now, and I really admire how honest and thoughtful you are, even when it hurts. You’re doing such deep emotional work, and that takes real courage.
From what you wrote, I hear a few big things:
* You’re dealing with fear of abandonment, which makes it hard to set boundaries or stay in relationships. You often leave before someone else can.
* You feel guilty when you set boundaries, especially if you think someone might be hurt. And when others set boundaries with you, it feels painful too—almost like rejection.
* You’ve lost relationships and chances at work because you assumed people would leave or think you weren’t good enough.
* You’re grieving Philip, and it hurts even more because you feel like it was your fault. That kind of self-blame makes the sadness even deeper.
* You feel overwhelmed by contact with your mom, even when the conversation seems light. It’s like her presence takes up too much space inside you, and you’re trying to find room to breathe.
* You want to be accepted as you are, but you’re afraid that if people really see you, they might leave.
These are painful patterns, but you’re facing them with honesty, Emma. That matters so much.
Here are the questions you asked me, and my answers:
1) “Could it also have to do with your father leaving you? Just like me, an abandonment wound?”- Not that I’m aware of. My parents divorced when I was about six, and my father moved out. I have no memory of him living with me and my mother, except for one—an argument between them. I don’t have any positive memories of him as part of the family, so there was nothing to miss when he left. If I carry an abandonment wound, I believe it comes from my mother. Too often, she treated me like “the other”—as if I were a stranger, or even an enemy she needed to guard herself against.
2) “Also because I recognize the wanting to please…in order for people to please not leave you. That is such a painful feeling, right..”- Yes, I know that feeling very well. To avoid my mother’s anger, shaming, and blaming, I shrank myself so much that I lost touch with my boundaries altogether. I became like a puppet—my movements were not my own, but determined by other people and circumstances. Even when I heard “no” in my mind, I wouldn’t speak it. I just stayed silent.
In my mind, growing up (growing “in”, more accurately), my mothers’ emotions were everything. She took ALL the space. She was loud, talked a lot.. lots of self-pity, histrionics. So, there was no space for my emotions, for my thoughts, and I was afraid that any expression on my part will trigger her.. so I suppressed and hid so much of myself.
3) “How are you now, do you feel like you can be yourself a bit more?”- Let me give you a small example. I’ve had a persistent issue with my computer and couldn’t fix it on my own. For weeks, I didn’t ask anyone for help because I didn’t want to inconvenience anyone or cause stress. But this morning, I did ask—and I felt proud. The issue still isn’t resolved, but that small action marked a shift. It was a step away from self-abandonment, a step toward building a new habit. Asking for help part of asserting myself, an act of taking space.
4) “Is it for you that usually something has happened, or is it when they come too close?”- It’s usually when someone gets too close. That emotional closeness feels dangerous—like they might suddenly see through me.. see that I am not worthy of their trust or affection, and turn against me. So I withdraw before that can happen, hoping to avoid the hurt.
I think that I’m afraid that other people will see me the way my mother saw me: someone who is not good-enough, someone who deserves to be shamed and guilted and.. well someone (using my mothers words), someone who is “A Big Zero”.
5) “How did she react? If I may ask.”- When I was younger, my mother would slap me across the face as she shame me with her words. I remember one time she said, “The only thing I like about you is that, when I hit you, you look down at the floor and don’t talk back.” Years later, in my early twenties, she charged at me again, arms raised to hit. But that time, I reached out and grabbed her hands to stop her. I didn’t hurt her—I just applied enough pressure to hold her back. She went limp, backed off. And she never tried to hit me again.
6) “But I think it was not right for her to teach you that, right..? How else is a person to feel safe in this world?”- I don’t blame her for being suspicious—her own childhood was full of betrayal. But I also see how harmful that message was for me. If only she had trusted me, even while distrusting the rest of the world, that could have given me a safe place to land. But she didn’t. She saw me as a threat too—and that left me without any safe space at all.
A few things I wanted to add before closing…
You’ve been navigating so much, Emma—with your parents, with Philip, and inside yourself—and I truly admire your strength. The fact that you’re doing therapy, seeking out insights, and trying to understand your patterns is remarkable. That’s not just healing; it’s leadership. You’re leading your inner life toward something freer, more honest, and more peaceful.
About your parents: I think your instinct to limit contact and create space is wise. You’re not doing it to be cruel—you’re doing it to breathe, to heal, to hear your own voice. Guilt may still show up, but it doesn’t mean you’re wrong. It means you’re stretching beyond old conditioning. You don’t owe anyone constant access to you—especially when it comes at the cost of your peace.
And about Philip— I wonder if part of what makes the bond with him feel so special now is the space between you and him. If you were to reconnect, that space might close, and the reality of the relationship, the closeness—could stir up the same old fears. This cycle—idealization, closeness, fear, withdrawal—is something many people go through while healing from attachment injuries. It’s not a flaw in who you are. It’s a pattern rooted in past pain.
And still, your sadness is valid. Your longing is valid. Your grief makes sense, because this wasn’t just a breakup—it was the loss of something that felt meaningful and safe, at least in moments. I know it hurts, especially when it feels like your own patterns pushed him away. But even this hurt can be part of your healing. You’re learning what needs attention. What needs tenderness. What’s ready to shift—not because you’re broken, but because you’re growing.
You’re doing the work. And that matters so much.
Sending you warm hugs 🤍 Anita
July 17, 2025 at 9:22 pm #447750anita
ParticipantJournaling this Thurs night- not dark yet, close to 9 pm- not even close to being dark. Birds Loud, Living, Singing-
Today, I thought I looked good, young-enough, very tanned, slender, muscular (107-8 lbs. at 5’5”, physically working every day).. wrinkles less showing on very tanned skin.. Lighting was just right.. (was at the local taproom).
S.O.C.I.A.L.I.Z.I.N.G.. oh, how much I love to socializing!!!!!!!
Didn’t feel OLD. Felt Y.O.U.N.G.
A precious feeling.. Feeling Young when.. officially, not young anymore.
A couple of people, men.. noticed me, noticed me. Not Old.
Listening to an Israeli song on YouTube: “Ani Ve’Ata Neshane et Ha”olam”- meaning,: you and I will change the world.
If you are reading this.. can you and I.. change the world?
Ani Ve’ Ata, can we make the world a little bit better.. Peter?
I wish I knew you better, Peter, in a personal way.. like how do you look like.. How tall are you, what color is your hair.. grey? The color of your eyes.. what is it?
Mine is brown with green in it.. and my hair, haven’t dyed it in.. what.. ten years.. It’s black with lots of White..
I got to be Old before I got to be Young..
And then, here I am Young-Old..
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 7:42 pm #447749anita
ParticipantHi Confusedasf:
Thank you for your message—it means a lot. I’m really glad our conversations have supported your healing, and I’m proud of you for choosing to keep moving forward, even when it’s hard.
Whatever comes next, I believe in your growth. Whether we cross paths again or not, I’ll be cheering you on. Please take it one day, one step at a time, patiently. You deserve peace and healing.
Take care of yourself 💛
With love, Anita
July 17, 2025 at 7:26 pm #447747anita
ParticipantHi Alessa:
Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful message. It really helped me feel seen.
You’re right—I’m not my mother. I carry the pain, but I’m working hard to heal and take responsibility. Your words reminded me that remorse matters, and that change is possible.
I’m really glad you’re feeling better after Covid. Sending love and gratitude your way. ❤️❤️❤️
Warmly, Anita
July 17, 2025 at 2:48 pm #447743anita
ParticipantThank you so much, Alessa- you are so good at giving emotional support!!!
Sory you had Covid..
I’ll write more tonight or in the morning (Thurs afternoon here, dreadfully hot, no A.C.
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 2:43 pm #447742anita
ParticipantThank you for caring to explain further, Peter! I appreciate your efforts and I will try to understand better tomorrow.
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 2:33 pm #447740anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
I am glad to read back from you, but sorry you feel so tired and tense. I read only the beginning and ending of your message but will read attentively tomorrow morning.. or later tonight. When I read “warmest hugs!”- I thought: I need cool hugs, very cool- it’s so hot here (and no air conditioning). Back to you later..
Coolest hugs!
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 1:44 pm #447730anita
ParticipantPeter: thank you! I will need a refreshed brain to process best I can- Fri morning (Thursday afternoon here, almost dreadfully hot as yesterday ☀️🔥
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 1:25 pm #447726anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
It’s so good to see you back—welcome! You’ve been missed this past week ❤️
Your post was thoughtful and full of insight. I really liked how you connected your son’s moment—trying to clean up the mess—to bigger ideas about how we grow and learn. It’s true: being a child means constantly learning rules we don’t know yet, and being watched while we figure things out. That can be hard.
What you said about the sense of self forming through other people really stood out to me. It’s sad but true—when we’re rejected as children, it doesn’t just hurt, it shapes how we see ourselves. That feeling of failure can sink deep.
I also loved this line: “Being alone is a story we tell ourselves so we can better understand others.” That’s such a gentle way to look at loneliness—not as something broken, but as something that helps us grow and connect.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You brought a lot of warmth and wisdom to the conversation. I hope you keep posting—your voice adds something special here.
With care, Anita 🤍
July 17, 2025 at 1:24 pm #447725anita
ParticipantDear Gregory:
Thank you for your appreciation and kind words! I will reply attentively tomorrow (not focused enough this hot Thurs afternoon).
Anita
July 17, 2025 at 1:18 pm #447724anita
ParticipantDouble posting above…
July 17, 2025 at 1:13 pm #447722anita
ParticipantHi Peter:
“Camus defines the absurd as the tension between our deep longing for meaning and the universe’s silence… He insists on staying with the absurd… refusing to resolve it or fix it… refusing to resolve it or fix (the tension).”-
As in to accept the things we cannot change (the tension) and the courage to change the things we can (the resistance ?
July 17, 2025 at 12:43 pm #447719anita
ParticipantDear Ada:
Your emotions are definitely valid.
You asked: “So if I don’t believe that he has romantic feelings for her, isn’t it my own selfishness that is preventing me from accepting him on this?… besides this issue with Sarah, our relationship has been emotionally vulnerable, honest, and loving… he doesn’t feel romantic feelings for her. So if I believe this about Sam, does it even matter that I consider it romantic? Am I the one who is not able to honor his feelings due to my own selfishness?”-
No, I don’t believe it’s selfishness. I think this is about what your heart needs in order to feel safe and deeply chosen. It’s about how wide your definition of love can stretch without losing you in the process.
I’ve struggled with this too. I’m emotionally conservative and traditional. Sharing someone I care deeply for—whether emotionally or otherwise—still hurts. Even in love, I find myself wishing I could be someone’s only emotional home.
But life keeps showing me: you can’t stamp your name on someone’s heart and expect exclusivity in every emotional corner. We’re all messy, layered beings. No one belongs entirely to another.
I know a man who is so very honest, full of integrity, more than anyone I know. He’s married and he loves his wife.. Yet I see that glitter in his eyes sometimes when he talks to an attractive woman who shows him affection.. (in a public setting where his wife is present). He can’t help his emotions. There is a longing that people have- often born in childhood- that no one person can satisfy every moment of the day or night.
What do you think, Ada, about what I wrote here?
With care, Anita 🤍
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