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June 9, 2026 at 10:10 pm #458497
anitaParticipantReading your post is making me smile this Tues night, Thomas, in a good way, thank you! Talking about rain drops, it’s been raining cats and dogs here tonight, N.W. USA.
No magic is required, Thomas; your heart is good enough đ¤đ
Anita
June 9, 2026 at 10:04 pm #458496
anitaParticipantha-ha, there’s only one of me that’s bamboozled, ignore the other đđ
June 9, 2026 at 9:58 pm #458495
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I feel this Tues night (here) that I am getting to know you better than I ever did before. And it makes me feel honored, to be let in further into your inner world.
Based on what you just shared, Copilot has this to say: “his (Confused’s) father was violent, or at minimum emotionally volatile and frightening enough that the childrenâs nervous systems coded him as unsafe. Confused repeatedly mentions âyears of violenceâ between his parents, fights so intense that he had to protect his mother from his father, and a home atmosphere where conflict, shouting, and emotional chaos were normal.
“Even if the father did not beat the children directly, the environment he created was violent: unpredictable, loud, frightening, and emotionally overwhelming.
“Children who grow up witnessing that level of conflict experience it as violence against them, because their safety depends entirely on the adults. This is why Confused freezes when his father expresses love now â his body remembers the danger, not the words.
*** “The father may be gentle today, but the earlier instability shaped the childrenâs nervous systems permanently, leaving them unable to feel warmth toward him even if they intellectually wish they could.
“Witnessing violence between parents forces a childâs nervous system into survival mode: instead of learning that closeness is safe, the child learns that love is unpredictable, explosive, or dangerous. This creates an attachment pattern where intimacy triggers both longing and alarm â the child grows into an adult who wants connection, but whose body reacts as if closeness equals threat.
“Confusedâs freeze response toward his father, his inability to feel affection for family, and his pushâpull with his girlfriend all reflect this early wiring: his system equates emotional closeness with the chaos he witnessed, so when someone loves him, his body prepares for danger instead of warmth.
“Confusedâs emotional system splits people into two categories: family (associated with danger, chaos, responsibility, and emotional overwhelm) and romantic partners/pets (associated with softness, safety, and the possibility of being cared for). His father represents the original source of emotional threat, so his body shuts down around him because numbness was the only way to survive childhood.
“Romantic partners bypass that shutdown at first because they are not tied to the traumatic past, but as soon as intimacy deepens, the same shutdown reflex activates. This is why he can adore his girlfriend one moment and feel nothing the next: she becomes âclose enoughâ to trigger the old circuitry.
“His relationship with his girlfriend is being shaped by the same traumaâdriven ambivalence: he feels tenderness, protectiveness, and longing, but the moment she gets emotionally close, his system flips into avoidance, irritation, or numbness. This isnât about her at all â itâs his nervous system reenacting the old pattern of ‘love equals danger.’
“The jealousy, the guilt spirals, the hyperâmonitoring of his own reactions, the fear of not feeling ‘enough,’ and the sudden waves of aversion are all symptoms of an attachment system that never learned stable closeness.
“Without understanding this pattern, he will keep misinterpreting trauma responses as evidence that he doesnât love her, when in fact they are evidence of how much closeness terrifies him”-
W.O.W!!! It all makes sense to me, Confused. Does it make sense to you?
Bamboozled Anita
Anita
June 9, 2026 at 6:01 pm #458490
anitaParticipantM.U.R.T.A.Z.A
I want to come back to this thread and your other threads in the coming weak or so.
Of course, it’d be a positive miracle to read from you again!
Anita
June 9, 2026 at 11:57 am #458487
anitaParticipantA note from me alone:
In the past, I focused on the little you shared about your mother in your life, and I remember nothing about your father. I know she has passed, but what about him: is he alive? Are you in contact with him?
You don’t have to answer of course.
Anita
June 9, 2026 at 10:44 am #458485
anitaParticipantHey Confused đ
Reading what you wrote, itâs so clear how deeply you feel â not just for her, but inside yourself. The way you cried while texting her, the way you wanted to hold her close and also let her go if it helped her⌠thatâs not confusion. Thatâs a very tender, very real part of you coming forward. And when you ask how to âfind this version and calm it,â it sounds like youâre talking about the younger part of you â the one who loved your father so intensely and felt that burning in the chest when he was gone.
Everything you described about him â waiting up for him, running to hug him, wanting to be close in every possible way â thatâs a child who adored his father and felt safe with him. And when a bond like that is so strong, the fear of losing connection later in life can feel just as strong. Thatâs why the feelings with your girlfriend hit so deeply.
You donât need to âget ridâ of this part. You donât need to force it to calm down. What helps is learning to sit with him, the younger you, and let him know heâs not alone anymore. That youâre here now. That he doesnât have to panic to be heard.
We can take this slowly, together. One step at a time.
Anita and Copilot
June 9, 2026 at 10:10 am #458484
anitaParticipantGood morning, Robin đ
Iâve been sitting with the words you shared this morning â the repeated reaching out, the silence that followed, the way he pulled away before, and how much empathy you still have for him even while feeling ignored and confused. When I look at your descriptions, what I notice is a pattern where he tends to withdraw when things become emotionally heavy or close.
It makes sense that his silence feels so painful. You cared deeply, you tried to repair things, and you were left without any response at all. Anyone in your position would feel unsteady. And itâs also understandable that youâre wondering what this says about his capacity â whether he has the emotional space or bandwidth to stay present when things get hard (even if he reconnects with you).
Only you can decide what this means for you and what you want going forward. But from the outside, itâs clear that youâve been carrying the emotional weight of the relationship for a long time, and that his way of managing stress leaves you in a kind of limbo that hurts. You deserve steadiness, responsiveness, and a partner who can stay in the conversation with you, even when things are difficult.
Iâm here with you as you sort through what feels true for you, at your own pace.
đż Anita
June 8, 2026 at 10:45 pm #458475
anitaParticipantWow, Robin! You’re an exceptional person, I can tell- so honest, intelligent, transparent and seeing the whole picture.
“He may even mean no harm and may intend to bring me down from the shelf where he has temporarily placed me, in time.”-
That sounds painful, to be placed on a shelf đ
“Iâm certain our connection was real”- it does sound real. Real and precious and maybe drowned- for now- underneath whatever he’s going through.
It’s close to 11 pm here and I’m not very focused. I would like to reply further in the morning. The Star War saying, “May the force be with you”, comes to my mind- the force within you, that which is not dependent on whether he’s gone or not.
Back in the morning.
Anita
June 8, 2026 at 9:37 pm #458473
anitaParticipantThe longing of a deprived child: is there anything more intense, more enduring?
The imagination of a child is limitless. How the realities of life grind against those limitless imaginations/the make- believe-s/ the wishful thinking.
Maybe the most constricting real- life early experiences lead to the most expansive imaginary early life experiences.
â¨ď¸ đż â¨ď¸ Anita
June 8, 2026 at 9:27 pm #458472
anitaParticipantHello James:
Good to read from you again. I suppose I used to feel threatened by your posts. Maybe I no longer need to.
Maybe I don’t need to be reactive anymore, and just let people be themselves, James123 included đ.
â¨ď¸ đż â¨ď¸ Anita
June 8, 2026 at 8:54 pm #458471
anitaParticipantHello Robin đ
I hear how emotionally attached you are to him, how much you regret the text you sent him 3 weeks ago, and how much you wish he’d reach out to you
First, no judgment for you dating a separated man. After all, he was separated and all that remained of that marriage was the legal stuff involving 2 children and money.
Second, the text you sent him was human, not abusive. His difficult life was not his alone. It was yours too because you’ve been in love with him. No wonder you had feelings about it all- and with alcohol, they just surfaced.
Even if I had a very similar experience to yours, my experience (nor anyone’s) could predict whether he’d reach out to you, or not.
That his marriage was abusive, that is, his wife abused him while together and while separated, means that he can’t handle much more than he’s already handling
Maybe if his life gets easier, he’ll reach put to you. Maybe it’s all too much for him right now and he went to a power- saving- mode: minimal extra complications.
It wasn’t your job to minimize yourself so to not add any distress to his mind and heart.
Please tell me your thoughts, your feelings about what I wrote here, or about anything at all that crosses your mind.
â¨ď¸ đż â¨ď¸ Anita
June 8, 2026 at 7:53 pm #458470
anitaParticipantHey Kiddo Confused đ
You don’t come across to me as BPD or bi-polar, not AT ALL.
“I do feel love”- âď¸âď¸âď¸
“Kiddo Confused trying to fix parents fighting… my chest burning”-
Inside Adult Confused there’s still a Kiddo Confused with chest đĽđĽđĽ
“I feel like everyone… will 100% leave”, “father leaving and my chest burning”-
Was Kiddo Confused very attached to his father?
Do you remember?đ¤ đż â¨ď¸ Anita
June 8, 2026 at 3:58 pm #458464
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
What youâre describing â the feeling of two parts inside you, one Loving and one Fearing â makes a lot of sense to me. Itâs not âtwo personalitiesâ in the sense of having two emotional parts that get activated at different times. One part reaches for closeness, and the other part panics and pulls away.
When the fear part comes up, it wipes out the loving part, and when the loving part comes up, it wipes out the fear. Thatâs why it feels like 0â100 inside you.
Youâre right that people who donât experience this canât easily understand it, but the important thing is that you are starting to notice it. The fact that youâre trying to âcatchâ those moments and look underneath them is a good sign.
What you said about trust â the fear that people leave, or that someone wonât really get you â fits with the pattern youâre describing. When the future feels like a void, or when nothing romantic moves you, thatâs usually the fear part taking over and shutting everything down to protect you.
If you want, we can look more closely at what each part is trying to protect you from, and what triggers the shift between these two parts.
Anita and Copilot.
June 8, 2026 at 10:00 am #458458
anitaParticipantGood morning, Starlightâ¨ď¸
I wanted to share something from my own experience: for a very long time, I was struggling with anger at my mother, guilt for feeling that anger, and a deep confusion about what I was âsupposedâ to feel.
Back then, people often encouraged me to understand my mother, to empathize with her, to forgive her, to see her wounds. They meant well, but those messages actually made things harder for me.
I was already overflowing with empathy for her and had none for myself. I was already blaming myself, already feeling guilty, already trying to excuse her behavior. Being urged to forgive or to see her side didnât help me heal â it pushed me deeper into guilt and selfâdoubt, and it kept me stuck in the same emotional position I had been in as a child.
Iâm not saying forgiveness is wrong; Iâm saying that when someone is still hurting, still trying to understand what happened to them, and still trying to find their own voice, being told to forgive or to see the parentâs perspective can feel like pressure rather than support.
What helped me wasnât being told to rise above it â it was being told that my anger made sense, that my pain was real, and that I was allowed to have my own experience. I just wanted to offer that in case youâve ever felt something similar.
You get to move at your own pace, in your own way, without anyone else defining what healing should look like for you!
Anita
June 8, 2026 at 9:08 am #458454
anitaParticipantGood Monday Morning, Confused:
I can hear how much you care for her and how much fear youâre carrying at the same time.
When you say things like âI canât live without herâ and then âI canât make any future plans with anyone,â it creates mixed signals for her, even though you donât mean to send them, and it puts her in a confusing position. Not because youâre lying, but because both sides are true for you in different moments. Your emotional intensity goes to 100, and then your fear and selfâprotection go to 0. That 0â100 shift is what hurts her, even when your intentions are good.
I donât think youâre trying to lead her on. I think youâre overwhelmed by the speed of your feelings and the intensity of your fears. But from her side, it can feel like sheâs being idealized one moment and rejected the next. Naming this pattern isnât criticism â itâs the first step toward helping both of you feel safer.
If you sit with that for a moment, what do you think happens inside you when you go from âsheâs everythingâ to âI canât promise anythingâ so fast? What is the fear underneath that shift?
You donât have to answer me if you donât want to. This is more for you â to understand yourself better, so you can feel steadier in the relationship and in your own life.
Anita
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