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  • #458503
    anita
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    Good Wed morning, Confused:

    You wrote yesterday: “I am starting to see u as a big sister that tries to help me at the same time 🙂”- it means a lot, confused, thank you 🙂

    Yesterday, Copilot said at one point that you fought against your father to protect your mother, but I don’t remember you sharing anything like that, and I’m thinking, maybe Copilot got Confused 🤔. Did you say anything like that, Confused?

    I wonder if when your parents fought, were they both loud and aggressive, or was it that one of them was the aggressor while the other was more submissive?

    Did your father leave the house on a regular basis because of fighting? Did he say where he was going? Were you worried about him when he left?

    And while they were fighting or after, did you side with one of them against the other, or try to protect one against the other?

    I am asking because I think that the answers (if you choose to answer, of course, it’s always your choice 🙂) can help me understand much better what’s been happening with you emotionally since we started communicating here, in this thread.

    Anita

    #458497
    anita
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    Reading your post is making me smile this Tues night, Thomas, in a good way, thank you! Talking about rain drops, it’s been raining cats and dogs here tonight, N.W. USA.

    No magic is required, Thomas; your heart is good enough 🤍🙏

    Anita

    #458496
    anita
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    ha-ha, there’s only one of me that’s bamboozled, ignore the other 🙂🙂

    #458495
    anita
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    Hey Dear Confused:

    I feel this Tues night (here) that I am getting to know you better than I ever did before. And it makes me feel honored, to be let in further into your inner world.

    Based on what you just shared, Copilot has this to say: “his (Confused’s) father was violent, or at minimum emotionally volatile and frightening enough that the children’s nervous systems coded him as unsafe. Confused repeatedly mentions “years of violence” between his parents, fights so intense that he had to protect his mother from his father, and a home atmosphere where conflict, shouting, and emotional chaos were normal.

    “Even if the father did not beat the children directly, the environment he created was violent: unpredictable, loud, frightening, and emotionally overwhelming.

    “Children who grow up witnessing that level of conflict experience it as violence against them, because their safety depends entirely on the adults. This is why Confused freezes when his father expresses love now — his body remembers the danger, not the words.

    *** “The father may be gentle today, but the earlier instability shaped the children’s nervous systems permanently, leaving them unable to feel warmth toward him even if they intellectually wish they could.

    “Witnessing violence between parents forces a child’s nervous system into survival mode: instead of learning that closeness is safe, the child learns that love is unpredictable, explosive, or dangerous. This creates an attachment pattern where intimacy triggers both longing and alarm — the child grows into an adult who wants connection, but whose body reacts as if closeness equals threat.

    “Confused’s freeze response toward his father, his inability to feel affection for family, and his push‑pull with his girlfriend all reflect this early wiring: his system equates emotional closeness with the chaos he witnessed, so when someone loves him, his body prepares for danger instead of warmth.

    “Confused’s emotional system splits people into two categories: family (associated with danger, chaos, responsibility, and emotional overwhelm) and romantic partners/pets (associated with softness, safety, and the possibility of being cared for). His father represents the original source of emotional threat, so his body shuts down around him because numbness was the only way to survive childhood.

    “Romantic partners bypass that shutdown at first because they are not tied to the traumatic past, but as soon as intimacy deepens, the same shutdown reflex activates. This is why he can adore his girlfriend one moment and feel nothing the next: she becomes “close enough” to trigger the old circuitry.

    “His relationship with his girlfriend is being shaped by the same trauma‑driven ambivalence: he feels tenderness, protectiveness, and longing, but the moment she gets emotionally close, his system flips into avoidance, irritation, or numbness. This isn’t about her at all — it’s his nervous system reenacting the old pattern of ‘love equals danger.’

    “The jealousy, the guilt spirals, the hyper‑monitoring of his own reactions, the fear of not feeling ‘enough,’ and the sudden waves of aversion are all symptoms of an attachment system that never learned stable closeness.

    “Without understanding this pattern, he will keep misinterpreting trauma responses as evidence that he doesn’t love her, when in fact they are evidence of how much closeness terrifies him”-

    W.O.W!!! It all makes sense to me, Confused. Does it make sense to you?

    Bamboozled Anita

    Anita

    #458490
    anita
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    M.U.R.T.A.Z.A

    I want to come back to this thread and your other threads in the coming weak or so.

    Of course, it’d be a positive miracle to read from you again!

    Anita

    #458487
    anita
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    A note from me alone:

    In the past, I focused on the little you shared about your mother in your life, and I remember nothing about your father. I know she has passed, but what about him: is he alive? Are you in contact with him?

    You don’t have to answer of course.

    Anita

    #458485
    anita
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    Hey Confused 🙂

    Reading what you wrote, it’s so clear how deeply you feel — not just for her, but inside yourself. The way you cried while texting her, the way you wanted to hold her close and also let her go if it helped her… that’s not confusion. That’s a very tender, very real part of you coming forward. And when you ask how to “find this version and calm it,” it sounds like you’re talking about the younger part of you — the one who loved your father so intensely and felt that burning in the chest when he was gone.

    Everything you described about him — waiting up for him, running to hug him, wanting to be close in every possible way — that’s a child who adored his father and felt safe with him. And when a bond like that is so strong, the fear of losing connection later in life can feel just as strong. That’s why the feelings with your girlfriend hit so deeply.

    You don’t need to “get rid” of this part. You don’t need to force it to calm down. What helps is learning to sit with him, the younger you, and let him know he’s not alone anymore. That you’re here now. That he doesn’t have to panic to be heard.

    We can take this slowly, together. One step at a time.

    Anita and Copilot

    #458484
    anita
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    Good morning, Robin 🙂

    I’ve been sitting with the words you shared this morning — the repeated reaching out, the silence that followed, the way he pulled away before, and how much empathy you still have for him even while feeling ignored and confused. When I look at your descriptions, what I notice is a pattern where he tends to withdraw when things become emotionally heavy or close.

    It makes sense that his silence feels so painful. You cared deeply, you tried to repair things, and you were left without any response at all. Anyone in your position would feel unsteady. And it’s also understandable that you’re wondering what this says about his capacity — whether he has the emotional space or bandwidth to stay present when things get hard (even if he reconnects with you).

    Only you can decide what this means for you and what you want going forward. But from the outside, it’s clear that you’ve been carrying the emotional weight of the relationship for a long time, and that his way of managing stress leaves you in a kind of limbo that hurts. You deserve steadiness, responsiveness, and a partner who can stay in the conversation with you, even when things are difficult.

    I’m here with you as you sort through what feels true for you, at your own pace.

    🌿 Anita

    #458475
    anita
    Participant

    Wow, Robin! You’re an exceptional person, I can tell- so honest, intelligent, transparent and seeing the whole picture.

    “He may even mean no harm and may intend to bring me down from the shelf where he has temporarily placed me, in time.”-

    That sounds painful, to be placed on a shelf 😔

    “I’m certain our connection was real”- it does sound real. Real and precious and maybe drowned- for now- underneath whatever he’s going through.

    It’s close to 11 pm here and I’m not very focused. I would like to reply further in the morning. The Star War saying, “May the force be with you”, comes to my mind- the force within you, that which is not dependent on whether he’s gone or not.

    Back in the morning.

    Anita

    #458473
    anita
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    The longing of a deprived child: is there anything more intense, more enduring?

    The imagination of a child is limitless. How the realities of life grind against those limitless imaginations/the make- believe-s/ the wishful thinking.

    Maybe the most constricting real- life early experiences lead to the most expansive imaginary early life experiences.

    ✨️ 🌿 ✨️ Anita

    #458472
    anita
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    Hello James:

    Good to read from you again. I suppose I used to feel threatened by your posts. Maybe I no longer need to.

    Maybe I don’t need to be reactive anymore, and just let people be themselves, James123 included 🙂.

    ✨️ 🌿 ✨️ Anita

    #458471
    anita
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    Hello Robin 🙂

    I hear how emotionally attached you are to him, how much you regret the text you sent him 3 weeks ago, and how much you wish he’d reach out to you

    First, no judgment for you dating a separated man. After all, he was separated and all that remained of that marriage was the legal stuff involving 2 children and money.

    Second, the text you sent him was human, not abusive. His difficult life was not his alone. It was yours too because you’ve been in love with him. No wonder you had feelings about it all- and with alcohol, they just surfaced.

    Even if I had a very similar experience to yours, my experience (nor anyone’s) could predict whether he’d reach out to you, or not.

    That his marriage was abusive, that is, his wife abused him while together and while separated, means that he can’t handle much more than he’s already handling

    Maybe if his life gets easier, he’ll reach put to you. Maybe it’s all too much for him right now and he went to a power- saving- mode: minimal extra complications.

    It wasn’t your job to minimize yourself so to not add any distress to his mind and heart.

    Please tell me your thoughts, your feelings about what I wrote here, or about anything at all that crosses your mind.

    ✨️ 🌿 ✨️ Anita

    #458470
    anita
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    Hey Kiddo Confused 🙂

    You don’t come across to me as BPD or bi-polar, not AT ALL.

    “I do feel love”- ✔️✔️✔️

    “Kiddo Confused trying to fix parents fighting… my chest burning”-

    Inside Adult Confused there’s still a Kiddo Confused with chest 🔥🔥🔥

    “I feel like everyone… will 100% leave”, “father leaving and my chest burning”-

    Was Kiddo Confused very attached to his father?
    Do you remember?

    🤔 🌿 ✨️ Anita

    #458464
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused:

    What you’re describing — the feeling of two parts inside you, one Loving and one Fearing — makes a lot of sense to me. It’s not ‘two personalities’ in the sense of having two emotional parts that get activated at different times. One part reaches for closeness, and the other part panics and pulls away.

    When the fear part comes up, it wipes out the loving part, and when the loving part comes up, it wipes out the fear. That’s why it feels like 0–100 inside you.

    You’re right that people who don’t experience this can’t easily understand it, but the important thing is that you are starting to notice it. The fact that you’re trying to ‘catch’ those moments and look underneath them is a good sign.

    What you said about trust — the fear that people leave, or that someone won’t really get you — fits with the pattern you’re describing. When the future feels like a void, or when nothing romantic moves you, that’s usually the fear part taking over and shutting everything down to protect you.

    If you want, we can look more closely at what each part is trying to protect you from, and what triggers the shift between these two parts.

    Anita and Copilot.

    #458458
    anita
    Participant

    Good morning, Starlight✨️

    I wanted to share something from my own experience: for a very long time, I was struggling with anger at my mother, guilt for feeling that anger, and a deep confusion about what I was ‘supposed’ to feel.

    Back then, people often encouraged me to understand my mother, to empathize with her, to forgive her, to see her wounds. They meant well, but those messages actually made things harder for me.

    I was already overflowing with empathy for her and had none for myself. I was already blaming myself, already feeling guilty, already trying to excuse her behavior. Being urged to forgive or to see her side didn’t help me heal — it pushed me deeper into guilt and self‑doubt, and it kept me stuck in the same emotional position I had been in as a child.

    I’m not saying forgiveness is wrong; I’m saying that when someone is still hurting, still trying to understand what happened to them, and still trying to find their own voice, being told to forgive or to see the parent’s perspective can feel like pressure rather than support.

    What helped me wasn’t being told to rise above it — it was being told that my anger made sense, that my pain was real, and that I was allowed to have my own experience. I just wanted to offer that in case you’ve ever felt something similar.

    You get to move at your own pace, in your own way, without anyone else defining what healing should look like for you!

    Anita

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