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March 4, 2026 at 11:25 am #455686
anitaParticipantHi Peter:
I didn’t reread or run things through Copilot since I posted to you last.
My whole life, I waited for my mother to be happy before I’d allow myself to be happy (or at peace).
I waited for peace between countries, the removal of violence, before I allow myself to be at peace-within.
Waiting for the External to dictate the Internal.
Forever waiting, fretting.
Fast forward to my understanding of your input, your way, the wisdom traditions you’re talking about:
That waiting is futile. I can choose peace within now. To be grounded, non reactive, and in so being, I can be grounding for others and promoting peace between others through daily communication here in tb and irl.
So, the “solution” so to speak, or “the way” is promoting peace from within outward rather than passively waiting for external peace to reach me, or identifying with one rigid position and fighting against the other.
It’s a good feeling to take what I waited for others/ circumstances to give me.
Peace on earth is peace within moving outward.
My focus then is to be grounded, to not argue or fight or promote conflict to any extent. In your communication with others you did just that, consistently.
Anita
March 4, 2026 at 9:36 am #455680
anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused:
These kinds of things, early childhood experiences such as a pattern of aggression by a mother, interrupted by times of affection, then back to aggression and suspicion (her thinking you’re manipulative when you were affectionate), these things cannot be solved by logic alone.
It takes real, competent professional help. There are many therapists out there who invested years and years in education and practice because so many, many people need this kind of help.
I just wish you came across a competent, experienced therapist.
๐๐คโ๏ธ๐๐ค Anita
March 4, 2026 at 8:35 am #455676
anitaParticipantHi Peter: I want to take the whole day to process your recent message ๐
March 4, 2026 at 8:14 am #455675
anitaParticipantGood morning, Peter:
* I just noticed that you submitted a post 25 minutes ago, while I was preparing this one. I didn’t read it yet (beyond the first line) and will send this reply first. Afterwards, I’ll read and reply to the recent).
In the message I sent you last night, I focused on just one thing you wrote yesterday (“wanting to โdoโ something but not knowing what, helplessโฆ”) and took it out of context.
In the context of your whole message (the one addressed to me, and the one addressed to Alessa- which I read for the first time this morning), you were describing the emotional impact of witnessing suffering, the human impulse to help, the frustration of not being able to change global events, and the helplessness that comes from caring deeply.
It’s about the limits of being one small person in a huge world and witnessing suffering you cannot stop.
This is existential helplessness, not political helplessness.You weren’t saying: “I want to join a movement.โ, โI want to take political action.โ, โI want to fix the world.โ You were saying: โIt hurts to see suffering and not be able to stop it.โ, โI wish I could ease the pain I see.โ, โI donโt know what to do with these feelings.โ
It’s not about plans, action steps, solving a problem, changing the world; it’s not about political or practical solutions. It’s emotional, not strategic.
Everything in your message to me and in the message to Alessa points to inner grounding, not outer activism. So, you โwanting to do somethingโ meant wanting to stay emotionally present to suffering without being overwhelmed โ not wanting to take political action.
In my last message to you, I again lost sight of you (the person I’m responding to) and saw myself in you. Your line: โwanting to โdoโ something but not knowing what, helplessโฆโ jumped out of the computer screen, and I interpreted (last night) it through my own emotional lens, not yours.
I was feeling urgency, fear, a desire to act, a wish to make a difference, a sense of responsibility and a need to not be passive. So, when I read โwanting to do something,โ in isolation, my mind filled in: โHe must mean what I mean โ wanting to take action, to help, to change something.โ I was seeing myself in your words, projecting my own meaning onto your words, reading my own urgency into your helplessness, and interpreting your longing through my own.
You were speaking about something much more human and internal โ the wish to stay present, to not shut down, to hold sadness without being overwhelmed, and Iโm with you in that quieter meaning.
I want to grow this capacity in myself too โ to stay present, to not shut down, to hold sadness without being overwhelmed. Iโd like to hear more about how this feels for you, or how you stay close to that quieter place.
๐ค๐ฟ๐พ Anita
March 3, 2026 at 8:07 pm #455666
anitaParticipantNot feeling like you “belong” with her because .. you didn’t belong early on?
To belong, what does it mean, Confused ๐?
March 3, 2026 at 8:01 pm #455665
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for your empathy and good wishes!
I called my sister a minute after I read this morning that the town where she lives was hit by a missile (from Iran), or a rocket (from Lebanon), and she said she heard nothing, she was in the “safe room” and heard nothing.
I then sent her photos ๐ธ of Bogart and she loved them.
About my communication with Norit, it was mostly about my 2016 communication with her in her first thread, mostly, not her last 2023 thread where you were a part โถ
I understand my .. unskillful responses, and want to do better, that’s all. Not to punish myself, but to learn and improve.
๐ค๐๐ค๐ Anita
March 3, 2026 at 7:48 pm #455664
anitaParticipantHi Dear Peter ๐
Neither you nor I are in a position of political power, so we have no choice but be observers vs participants in what is HAPPENING outside of our control or choice.
Unless you can start a YouTube channel that can become super popular, something I wouldn’t know how to start. Or join a political movement and rise from there BIG TIME.
Tiny buddha is a very, very small community, only five regulars at the most: Anita, Peter, Roberta, Alessa, Thomas, very far from being a large scale community. It’s just a few people talking and others appearing and disappearing.
Do you think, Peter, that there’s a way for you and I to make a positive difference outside here? I mean, if there’s a way, I’m in!
๐ Anita
March 3, 2026 at 6:52 pm #455662
anitaParticipantDear Tom:
As fit ๐ช and as young as possible, I like that! That’s just what I do. Actually, I am more fit now than I was at 40.
At 40, I was overweight and sluggish. Now, I’m slender and agile.
Did you ever attend a tai-chi class? That’s one practice that combines physical fitness and mental fitness.
๐ช๐ค๐บ Anita
March 3, 2026 at 6:42 pm #455661
anitaParticipantYes, Confused: someone asking me for real, with curiosity, just wanting to know.
It made you feel “like an exile” of some sort- can you describe “exile”?
๐ค Anita
March 3, 2026 at 3:28 pm #455657
anitaParticipantDear Alessa: Thank you ๐ for your response. I’ll reply further later ๐ค
March 3, 2026 at 3:23 pm #455656
anitaParticipantHi Peter:
I am really moved by your reply. You answered my question in such a simple, concrete, emotional wayโ just your actual feelings. Sadness, helplessness, wanting to do something in a world that is so troubledโฆ I felt the honesty in that.
And it touched me that the grass metaphor gave you a moment of comfort, and that you cared to let me know that it did.
The way you described that childlike space โ falling, getting up, rolling, breathing โ it felt alive and real. I could almost see you there.
I like the rhythm of your rewritten prayer. The parts about Quiet and Silence brought silence into my noise๐: โGive us eyes to see and ears to hear the quiet truth unfolding in all things.โ
And this last part is absolutely beautiful: โLead us back to the soil, back to the silence, where all things rest, all things belong, and all things are made one again.โ
Thank you.
I want to write a bit more later.
โ Anita
March 3, 2026 at 9:26 am #455647
anitaParticipantGood morning, Peter:
“Not polished. Not wise. Just human.”- that’s me. Wiser than before, I hope.
I continued my study of my past communication with Norit this morning and recorded it in a private space, to reread and internalize.
In my replies to her I rushed to offer solutions, often being directive or corrective about it, vs being collaborative. Basically, I told her what to do. Also, I saw myself in her more than I saw her. So, I ignored her individual challenges, her individual story, and made it about me. I talked to my younger self.
She needed calm and validation: I gave her tension, pressure, urgency.
I wasn’t grounded in myself.
Which brings me to your message of less than 2 hours ago, “Heaven on earth” within, a space “to expand, to breathe”, “a place you can rest in”-
So to not project the hell- within, the constricted, the suffocated and restless into another (like Norit).
To rest and breathe within, finally.
“Finding it hard to engage without losing my footing a little”-
The old me would turn this honest, vulnerable, human expression into an analysis project, going back to past posts and interpret you and tell you what your statement means and what you should do about it.. ha-ha.
The new me (a bit wiser) says this morning, well, asks: how does it feel like to lose your footing a little, for you?
Maybe you should dance ๐บ. I know I should dance ๐
๐บ๐๐ค Anita
March 2, 2026 at 7:58 pm #455634
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
It’s kind of you to reassure me.
I don’t think it was the CBT/ mindfulness itself that encouraged me to Feel. I think it was about someone caring to know how I truly feel ๐
My feelings in general were all numbed in some depression combo soup ๐ฒ for way too long.
She didn’t reciprocate your early love for you, was suspicious of you, hugged and apologized to you after hitting you-
How, what.. how did it make you feel?
๐ฒ๐๐ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 7:28 pm #455633
anitaParticipantHi Dear Peter:
Talking about wars, as you know, one is taking place right now and religion is a big part of it. A metaphor that comes to mind (an incentive for committing mass murder): virgins in heaven or paradise as the reward for martridom.
Would be, what’s the word.. helpful to replace that metaphor.
I have some family I care about in a country that’s currently bombarded by missles from Iran and whatever one of their proxies is sending from the north, lesser powerful rockets.
The “messy, active work of relating” (your words)- What would it look like, for you, to messily relate?
For me, following the recent humility brought about by your valuable input โจ๏ธ, it’d mean.. maybe back to open fields of green ๐ grass, but it wouldn’t be running. It’d be like you said: falling and getting back up.
I think that this month it’d be 10 years since you first posted on tb (March 2016), less than a year since I first posted here (May 2015).
I know you’re 2 years younger than me. I think you live on the east coast while I live on the west. We both have tinnitus. You used to dance ๐บ (I miss dancing!) Do you still dance?
I’ll stop here. Just messy, human wondering.
๐บ๐๐ Anita
March 2, 2026 at 6:43 pm #455631
anitaParticipantDear Confused:
See ๐ the last sentence of your 3.5 hours ago message? – “I think I was seeing ๐ my mother as a threat too”-
It might not feel like much now, or ever since you were 13, but how did it feel earlier on?
I mean, a mother is supposed to be a safe, protective figure, not a threat.
Do you remember how you felt when you were 3 or 6 or 9 or 12?
As to your question my feelings (of love for my mother), flooding back or slowly? I can’t answer that. I can say it was surprising. I just didn’t remember that I felt love for her.. until I remembered the early love/ attachment.
Oh, that emotional attachment felt like starving for oxygen, and she- my mother- was the oxygen. Separation from her was unthinkable, like a certain death.
I hope this is not too intense for you to read.
I felt- remembered- that love years after I had therapy (it was CBT+mindfulness therapy, 2011-13).
๐ (my favorite emoji this evening), Anita
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