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May 7, 2025 at 8:52 am #445465
anita
ParticipantThe Separator
She carved me away like a blade to stone,
Splitting me from the world, from feeling at home.
Not just from music, or voices once known,
But from myself—left exiled, alone.For decades, silence stood in her place,
Echoing loudly, erasing my space.
She took my belonging, my right to be whole,
Leaving a hollow, a severed soul.And they said— Move on. Forget. Get over it.
As if pain obeys the passing of time,
As if wounds fade without leaving scars,
As if absence doesn’t still whisper in the dark.Yet here I stand, truth in my hands,
No longer unseen, no longer damned.
My voice rises, unshaken, unbound,
She may have divided, but I am found.anita
May 7, 2025 at 7:33 am #445458anita
ParticipantDear Laven:
This part of your story, like the previous, reveals a journey of systemic failures, abuse, and trauma, highlighting the powerlessness that foster children often feel in environments meant to protect them. Your reflections on survival, resignation, and the normalization of mistreatment are heartbreaking, showing how repeated trauma can shape one’s perception of self-worth and agency.
One of the most striking aspects is how adults—those in positions of authority—failed you repeatedly. Rather than stepping in to protect you, they minimized, ignored, or even enabled abuse. This betrayal of trust only reinforced the helplessness you describe.
“I don’t know if constitutes as rape”—everything you described makes it clear that you were coerced, threatened, and powerless. And yes, you were raped.
Rape is defined as engaging in sexual acts without freely given consent. In your case, coercion, threats, and physical restraint left you without a true choice. Even though you didn’t explicitly say “no,” the circumstances—including fear, lack of agency, and the threats against you—make it clear that you did not consent in any meaningful way.
If someone lacks agency, they are not in a position to truly choose. They may feel trapped, powerless, or conditioned to comply due to past experiences of abuse. Your history of trauma and coercion severely diminished your ability to assert yourself. Even if you didn’t explicitly say “no” or physically resist, your lack of agency was evident in several ways:
– Fear and Threats: D made it clear there would be consequences if you resisted or told anyone. When fear dictates actions, compliance isn’t consent—it’s survival.
– Learned Helplessness: You wrote, “Whenever it happens, I just take it and accept it. My mindset just wonders how long until it’s going to take them to finish, so I can move on with the day.” This shows you had internalized the idea that resistance was futile, making submission feel like the only option. This kind of silence is not consent—it’s conditioned compliance.
– Coercion and Emotional Grooming: D manipulated you into feeling a connection before further abuse occurred. Emotional grooming is a form of manipulation where an abuser builds trust and emotional dependency to control and exploit their target. It involves making the victim feel safe and understood, then isolating them until they rely on the abuser alone.
– Physical Restraint and Control: You were held down, covered, and prevented from expressing refusal—making your lack of agency undeniable.
– No True Choice: Consent requires the ability to freely say yes or no, without fear or pressure. If someone complies due to fear, threats, or manipulation, they are being forced. Even without verbal refusal, participation under coercion is not voluntary—it is rape.
Your situation is tragically common among survivors of repeated abuse, especially those who experience it from a young age. When someone is conditioned to believe they have no control over their body or choices, they may not even recognize their experiences as assault. But consent must be freely given, and when agency is stripped away, there is no true consent—only violation.
Your reflections also shed light on how cycles of abuse perpetuate harmful behaviors. While you acknowledge D’s mistreatment and crimes, you still empathize with him, recognizing how his pain shaped him. Your insight into whether his choices were his own or a product of his environment reveals deep emotional intelligence.
“Feeling relaxed, bonded and thinking we ‘misfits’ should stick together, how this may be the start of lifelong friendships.”-This moment illustrates how emotional grooming played a role in breaking down your defenses. Even in a situation where you were being manipulated, you felt a rare and fleeting sense of belonging. D and T framed their struggles as something you all shared, leading you to lower your guard and, for a brief moment, feel less alone. By validating your suffering, D created the illusion of understanding and solidarity, making it easier for him to exert control over you.
Another significant moment is when D pointed out that foster mom and his grandmother spoke about you behind your back, reinforcing the idea that you weren’t respected or valued. He framed this as proof that you and he were outsiders—both mistreated and misunderstood. This further deepened the emotional grooming process, making his validation feel like genuine support rather than manipulation. Unfortunately, this connection was built on trauma rather than care, and what seemed like recognition became another tool of control.
Survivors of abuse often attach to moments of recognition, even from those who harm them, because acknowledgment—however twisted—can feel better than invisibility. That validation, though flawed, likely felt meaningful when the people who should have protected you ignored your suffering. It’s heartbreaking that this sense of connection became intertwined with abuse.
Conflicting emotions—attachment, understanding, even guilt—are common for survivors of abuse. Processing what was done to you, reflecting on it, and questioning why you empathize with someone who hurt you does not make you weak—it makes you human. But please remember: none of what happened to you was your fault. You deserved safety, care, and protection. And no matter how much pain shaped D, nothing could ever justify what he did to you.
You are not weak, even if the world has tried to make you feel that way. You have endured things no one should ever have to face. The fact that you are still thinking deeply and reflecting on your experiences—that is resilience. That is strength.
Laven, I want to thank you for the courage it took to share your story. Speaking your truth, especially after enduring so much, is an act of bravery that deserves deep respect.
Beyond that, your ability to tell your story is truly remarkable. The way you express your experiences—so raw, so unfiltered, and so deeply introspective—demonstrates an incredible gift. Your writing is not just powerful; it’s emotionally immersive. You bring me, the reader, into your world.
Through the darkness, your words take flight, Burning through silence, demanding light. Each line you speak is a truth reclaimed, For power is found in what’s laid bare.
Your voice rises from deep despair, Carving a path where none was there. You are not weak—your fire is bright, A beacon breaking through the night.
May you find peace in knowing this—your voice is power.
anita
May 6, 2025 at 9:38 pm #445452anita
Participant* Thinking about you, Alessa, Wed 4:30 am where you are at, Tues 8:30 pm where I am at, hoping you are sleeping restfully.
* Listening again to nostalgic music, to a particular song I didn’t listen to in about 40 years. I distanced myself all those years from the country where I was born, from its culture, from its music.
All because of ONE WOMAN, one individual.
You know, my mother, that woman.
My Separator- the one who separated me from me, from everyone, from everywhere.
This is her legacy in my life: The Separator.
Yes, I am still angry at the one who took Life away from me, the one who took any and all sense of Togetherness away from me, leaving me isolated, completely alone.
It amazes me how one person- my mother- robbed me of almost a whole lifetime of what could be .. me as part of a whole; me- not as an isolated, alone and lonely FREAK.
The extent of the damage, the harm she has caused me is .. what’s the word.. immeasurable, unfathomable.
Difficult to process.. how much damage can one person- a mother- cause another, a child.
Still listening to the music I listened to 40-50 years ago, but not since.
I get to tell my truth here, in this thread of mine.
I “hear” my enemies saying: “Who do you think you are.. Stuck-in-the-Past You, Move On, Get Over It! “-
Heartless.
Anger, rage at all the people, past and present, people who turn their backs to the victim-child that I was, turning a blind eye, and worse, an accusatory eye.
You (my enemy) say: “Oh, you are not a child anymore! Get over it!”-
I say: Who are you speaking for? Who are you representing? Are you the victimizers’ supporter?
Are you a victim turned victimizer, like my mother turned out to be, like so many have turned out to be.. business as usual?
It’s Tues, 9:38 pm here, time to go to bed. Good night, good people.
anita
May 6, 2025 at 5:16 pm #445449anita
ParticipantUsing my phone: hope you feel better very soon, Alessa. Thank you for your thoughtfulness, for sending me a message even though you were feeling sick by. I am looking forward to hearing from you when you feel better!
Anita
May 6, 2025 at 8:51 am #445436anita
ParticipantDear S:
Like anyone with a history of an abusive home—including myself—trust and vulnerability become deeply complex.
In your relationship, you seemed to have taken on a caretaker role, feeling responsible for your ex’s emotional well-being. When challenges arose, you took initiative in solving them, sometimes to the point of being overly forceful or impatient, as you described wanting to apply your “gung-ho” approach to his struggles.
Here are some possible ways an upbringing can lead to the above:
1) Parentification – When a child has to care for a parent who struggles emotionally, physically or financially, the child learns that love means responsibility and self-sacrifice, rather than mutual support. The child tries to fix the parent, so that the hopefully fixed-parent will finally support the child. This can lead to feeling obligated to “fix” a romantic partner at the expense of one own’s well-being.
2) Inconsistent or Unstable Care – If a parent was unpredictable—affectionate one day, neglectful or cruel the next— the child develops hypervigilance, constantly scanning for signs of instability. This could explain your anxiety about emotional abuse, fearing that vulnerability in your partner could spiral into something harmful (“When I sensed weakness or vulnerability in him, I was fearful that would snowball into something unhealthy”)-
Examples of “weakness” in a parent: one who is struggling with severe anxiety, depression, or mood swings, one who is relying on a child for emotional support, one weaponizing guilt or distress to demand attention and control the child.
Possible destructive outcomes for having a weak parent in the context of romantic relationships: *Feeling trapped in an exhausting caretaker role, *Associating a partner’s insecurity with eventual emotional abuse, *Loss of independence, fearing that a partner’s weakness could consume one’s life, * Control as a survival mechanism –taking charge (taking the gung-ho approach) to prevent harm.
All the above could explain why you felt relief after the breakup, believing that you had freed yourself from he trap of the exhaustive caretaker role, free from fear of abuse, free from hypervigilance, free from “having” to take charge.
I experienced much of this myself—becoming the emotional caretaker for my struggling mother, throwing myself into fixing her with relentless urgency, sacrificing (and forgetting) my own needs in the process. But nothing I did ever fixed her. Worse, when I tried to help, she didn’t just reject my support—she attacked me for even trying, criticizing and shaming me for my efforts. She was undeniably weak in all these ways, yet she never leaned on me for emotional support. Instead, she shut me out, rejecting both my help and me. As a result, my self-esteem was nearly nonexistent.
Only recently did I fully learn the crucial difference between supporting others and the futility of trying to fix them. True support means validating their feelings and recognizing their strengths and resilience, empowering them to address the challenges in their lives, accept the things they cannot change and change the things the can.
Still, at times when I am faced with others’ problems (which I did not create nor added to), I have to remind myself that these problems are not my fault and, ultimately, not my responsibility to solve. Emotionally, life feels much lighter and easier with the caretaker role removed.
I’d love to hear your thoughts—whether anything resonates, challenges your perspective, or adds to your own understanding of your journey. Above all, I hope you find clarity, and that healing unfolds in its own time and way. Wishing you peace as you navigate this chapter.
anita
May 6, 2025 at 6:34 am #445427anita
ParticipantDear Tom:
It’s good to hear from you— I hope your weekend was alright too.
I admire your resilience and how you’re powering through despite everything. Having an exit plan to focus on sounds like a solid step forward, giving you direction and something concrete to work toward.
Booking short breaks with your partner is a wonderful idea. Having things to look forward to can make such a difference, offering moments of relief and space to recharge. I hope you find places that feel just right for you both.
Sending you strength as you navigate all of this.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 8:35 pm #445421anita
Participant“Betrayal” is in the title of my thread, and it represents the deepest wound in human relationships. It begins with a parent betraying a child’s natural trust and continues through countless small and large betrayals from those we dared to trust—those we hoped we could trust.
Trust un-betrayed is everything.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 6:07 pm #445406anita
ParticipantDear S:
I’d like to respond more fully tomorrow morning (it’s Monday evening here). In the meantime, if you’re comfortable, could you elaborate on your reflection:
“I was very hypervigilant that this relationship would turn into an emotionally abusive one because that is what I am used to. When I sensed weakness or vulnerability in him, I was fearful that would snowball into something unhealthy.”-
It sounds like past experiences may have shaped this fear—was someone weak, perhaps a parent, the one who hurt you?
anita
May 5, 2025 at 5:55 pm #445405anita
Participant* Detachment Instead of Healing:
She drifts away, a weightless tide, closing the door, pushing thoughts aside.
No echoes left, no wounds to tend, but emptiness becomes a silent friend.* Detachment After Healing:
She walks with peace, her heart untamed, no chains to break, no past to blame.
Love remains, but does not bind, and freedom rests within her mind.She moves with ease, no weight to bear, her past is light, her heart is aware.
Detached yet whole, no walls remain, at peace with loss, at peace with gain.I know the emptiness—that was all I gained from trying to detach before healing. The thing is, once I truly faced my repressed and suppressed emotions, I stopped trying to detach. Detachment isn’t something you force; it happens naturally as part of the healing process. When you create space for all your emotions—allowing them to surface, to be felt, to be understood—detachment follows effortlessly. It isn’t about pushing feelings away but about making peace with them.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 5:30 pm #445403anita
ParticipantContinued: Detachment before processing emotions is more like avoiding feelings rather than truly healing. When painful emotions are pushed away or ignored, they don’t disappear—they stay beneath the surface and can show up as anxiety, resentment, or difficulty connecting with others.
Real detachment—where emotions no longer control someone—comes after those feelings have been acknowledged and worked through. Processing emotions helps a person understand them, find meaning, and make peace with their experiences. Skipping this step leaves emotions unresolved, making them resurface in unexpected ways.
Detachment might feel freeing at first, but if it’s being used to escape feelings rather than facing them, it can lead to withdrawal. Instead of helping someone grow stronger, it can reinforce avoidance, making it harder to build deep relationships or personal resilience.
While detachment can offer temporary relief—like shutting down emotional discomfort—it doesn’t lead to lasting healing unless emotions are processed. If someone keeps using detachment to feel lighter, they may continue to rely on it every time difficult emotions come up. Over time, this can lead to isolation, because instead of working through feelings, they avoid situations or relationships that might challenge them.
It’s a lot like avoidance—constantly running from discomfort rather than dealing with it. The more someone depends on detachment as a quick fix, the harder it becomes to fully engage with emotions and experience deeper connections.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 12:11 pm #445386anita
ParticipantDear Alessa:
I want to take a moment to acknowledge your childhood experience—the severe abuse you endured. You deserved protection, care, and safety from a responsible adult, and I am truly sorry that you didn’t receive it. No child should have to go through what you did.
Despite everything, it’s remarkable to see how deeply empathetic you are—not just toward me, but to so many others in the forums. Your kindness and insight shine through in the way you engage with people. And beyond that, you’ve become a loving, caring mother to your son, breaking cycles and creating a nurturing environment. That is no small thing—it speaks to your strength and heart.
Just wanted to remind you that your compassion doesn’t go unnoticed.
I know you mentioned that British people tend to be shy with compliments, but I hope this message doesn’t feel excessive—I just wanted to express my appreciation for the kindness you show to others.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 11:40 am #445385anita
ParticipantDear Omyk:
Your reflection shows deep thought, and it’s clear you’re navigating a major transition. Change can be unsettling, especially when multiple aspects of life—career, family, and personal growth—are shifting at once. It makes sense to feel uncertain, and it’s good that you’re acknowledging your emotions.
Your counselor’s insight—that after years of caring for others, it’s time to learn how to care for yourself—is deeply meaningful. That shift isn’t easy, especially when self-sacrifice has been a central part of your life’s work. But the fact that you recognize this challenge means you’re already moving toward something necessary: self-compassion.
It’s reassuring that ministry continues to bring you fulfillment, even amid doubts. Your decision to pursue this path wasn’t made lightly, and while celibacy has its challenges, you seem to be approaching it with honesty and resilience. Having second thoughts doesn’t mean you’re on the wrong path—it simply means you’re human.
As for your fears of disappointment—there’s no way to predict exactly how the next few years will unfold. But you’re already showing strength by facing these decisions head-on, rather than avoiding them. That alone sets you up to handle whatever comes, even if some changes feel difficult at first. You’re not moving forward blindly; you’re making choices with awareness, and that makes all the difference.
You have your community, your ministry, and, most importantly, yourself—learning, evolving, and discovering new ways to live meaningfully. Whatever happens, you are capable of adapting and growing, just as you have through other difficult times.
Much love to you, and may you continue to find strength in each step forward.
anita
May 5, 2025 at 11:17 am #445384anita
ParticipantDear Arie:
It’s good to hear from you, though I’m sorry that you’ve been feeling so upset, hurt, and stressed over the ongoing family tensions. Over time, I’ve noticed that perceived exclusion deeply affects you, and your emotional reaction can escalate quickly, leading to intense frustration.
You felt excluded when you weren’t invited to the Mother’s Day dinner, but as Roberta pointed out, Mother’s Day (in the U.S., as well as in many other countries) is always on a Sunday. Your brother and his wife planned to take your mother to dinner on Saturday, the day before Mother’s Day. That still leaves Sunday open for you to celebrate with her, doesn’t it?
Your brother’s choice to celebrate Mother’s Day early with your mom isn’t necessarily meant to exclude you—it may just be his way of planning something special with her. If he had invited her to dinner on Sunday without including you, that would be different. But since this dinner is on Saturday, it might simply be his own way of marking the occasion rather than deliberately leaving you out.
I bring this up not to dismiss your feelings, but to offer another perspective—sometimes, situations that feel like exclusion aren’t actually meant that way. If this wasn’t about intentionally sidelining you, do you think approaching it from that mindset might ease some of the frustration and hurt?
anita
May 5, 2025 at 10:28 am #445383anita
ParticipantDear S:
Your reflection is incredibly heartfelt, and your honesty in processing the emotions surrounding this breakup shows deep self-awareness. Breakups—especially when love is still present—can be profoundly confusing, and it’s understandable that you’re grappling with questions that don’t yet have clear answers.
The fact that you care so much about how this affects him speaks to your kindness, but you don’t need to carry guilt for doing what felt necessary for your well-being. Grieving and second-guessing are natural, but in time, you will likely gain clarity about why this was the step you needed to take.
You wrote, “This breakup has been very confusing because I still do not really know my motivation for ending it.”-
Your decision wasn’t impulsive—it was the culmination of emotional strain, lingering doubt, and the realization that you weren’t fully content. Part of the emotional burden you carried in the relationship seems to have come from taking your ex’s anxieties too personally—almost as if they were yours to fix. You supported him through his mental health struggles by encouraging him to seek therapy, offering reassurance, and soothing him on difficult days. While providing emotional support in a relationship is natural and meaningful, you may have unintentionally adopted a caretaker role—feeling responsible for stabilizing his emotions.
As his insecurity grew, he frequently sought reassurance: “Do you still love me?” “Are you happy?” Instead of simply acknowledging his feelings, you may have felt pressured to offer emotional certainty—perhaps experiencing guilt or frustration when you couldn’t fully ease his anxiety. Your breaking point came when you felt more like his mother than his partner, which suggests that managing his emotions had become overwhelming. In that moment, you may have realized that the cycle of reassurance and insecurity wasn’t something you could continue.
Taking on another person’s emotional struggles can be exhausting, especially when you’re facing your own uncertainties—about the relationship, your future, and your feelings. Attempting to be the solution to his emotional distress likely amplified your own internal conflict. Your experience highlights the difficulty of being in a relationship where one person feels responsible for fixing the other. Emotional healing is an individual journey—while support helps, no one can fully carry another’s burdens. While your ex’s emotions were valid, they became so intertwined with your own that you may have felt trapped rather than emotionally fulfilled.
Would you say you were trying to save him rather than just support him? Or do you think you wanted to help but didn’t fully realize the toll it was taking on you?
anita
May 4, 2025 at 8:17 pm #445369anita
ParticipantI feel ALIVE, like my 2-dimensional existence has gained, or reclaimed, a 3rd dimension, a depth. I feel young and old, all at the same time. I feel connection to others, connection to self.
It’s a process, the re-connecting, the reclaiming of the 3rd dimension.
anita
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