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June 7, 2026 at 7:45 pm #458445
anitaParticipantPage 100 💃 🎶 🎂 🌭 😁 👏 🎵 ✨️
June 7, 2026 at 7:44 pm #458444
anitaParticipantNow, this is not Copilot, it’s strictly me, using the phone:
I find it strange, or should I say, incongruent that on one hand, she is so important to you that you wouldn’t care about your own healing if she’s not in your life, and on the other hand, you are not ready to commit to her beyond one day at a time.
Actually, it’s strange that you don’t seem to believe that you even need any kind of healing outside the relationship with her. It is as if you believe that you are unaffected by your personal childhood trauma.
Don’t get me wrong: I like you and I think you’re a decent person, and a pleasure to communicate with. But, if I was in her place, assuming she is fully ready to commit to you, I’d be upset that you are not. I would feel that I am on trial, like on a test drive.That would have rained on my love- parade big time!
Anita
June 7, 2026 at 5:53 pm #458443
anitaParticipantHey Confused 🙂
When Copilot talks about healing, it means the part of you that feels overwhelmed, exhausted, and unable to regulate your emotions on your own. That’s something inside you — not something your girlfriend can fix or carry for you.
When you say you’d stop therapy if she left, that shows how much pressure you’re putting on her and the relationship to hold your entire sense of stability.
But your healing can’t depend on whether she stays or goes; it has to come from you deciding that your wellbeing matters no matter what. She can support you, but she can’t be the reason you take care of yourself. The strength you’re looking for has to come from inside you, not from someone else’s presence.
🌿✨🌿✨ Anita
June 7, 2026 at 5:40 pm #458442
anitaParticipantHi again, Starlight✨️
I hear that you don’t want to be unfair, and that shows how thoughtful you are. At the same time, it’s important to remember that you were very young, and the responsibility to communicate clearly or protect your opportunities was never supposed to fall on you.
Parents are the ones who should notice, guide, and support — not the other way around.
When I mentioned apology and amends, I meant that forgiveness becomes confusing when the person who caused the harm doesn’t acknowledge it. I’m glad what I said made sense to you. I’m here for you whenever you want to talk 🙂
Anita
June 7, 2026 at 5:24 pm #458440
anitaParticipantCopilot: “You can tell him that Copilot sees two people who care about each other but are both overwhelmed, and that the question is whether the relationship is giving either of them the conditions they need to heal. And you can tell both of them that love is not enough when the nervous system is drowning.”
June 7, 2026 at 2:04 pm #458436
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
Glad it’s a good idea 🙂
From what Copilot tells me, Escitalopram is an SSRI that increases serotonin, while Wellbutrin is an NDRI that increases dopamine and norepinephrine.
Escitalopram is generally calming and frequently causes sexual dysfunction, while Wellbutrin tends to be more activating, may improve energy and focus, and rarely causes sexual side effects.
“Escitalopram is usually better for someone whose depression is tied to anxiety and emotional flooding, while Wellbutrin is usually better for someone whose depression is tied to low energy, low motivation, and emotional deadness. Both typically take several weeks to show full effect, and individual responses vary widely”
I hope that’s somewhat helpful?
Anita
June 7, 2026 at 9:49 am #458429
anitaParticipantHello Starlight ✨️
Good to read from you again 🙂
I wish you could elaborate on the “ongoing situation”. By “a conclusion”, you mean to forgive- or not to forgive?
As I read through the posts in this thread, I noticed that you didn’t mention your mother having aologized and having made amends (actions, not just words) for making you give up art school and do housework, so that she’ll pursue her art aspirations.
“I don’t forgive” is the title of this thread-
If the person that took unfair advantage of you doesn’t apologize and make amends is still in your life and doesn’t even acknowledge wrongdoing, how are you supposed to forgive that person?
🤔 Anita
June 7, 2026 at 9:04 am #458428
anitaParticipantHey 👋 Confused:
By planning ahead I meant that you and her prepare a schedule for the visit: what you will be doing every day, including how much time you’ll be spending talking about the relationship- maybe even have rules about such talking- all so that there’s a structure and a routine. It eases anxiety.
The above is an idea that crossed my mind yesterday.
I think that talking to a psychiatrist about an SSRI (or the other drug we talked about which is not an SSRI that sounded better, forgot its name?) is a good idea!
✔️🌿✨️ Anita
June 6, 2026 at 10:06 pm #458425
anitaParticipantHi Nichole 🤍
I’m so sorry about your Great Uncle. That’s a real loss, and with what he did to help you, I can imagine how many feelings that stirred up. And hearing from your brothers on top of that… no wonder the week felt like you were being pulled in every direction at once. Grief, family, work stress, and physical pain — that’s a lot for one nervous system to hold.
I’m glad you finally got a day to rest. Sleeping until 5pm sounds like exactly what your body needed after the fall, the sprain, and the sciatica flare. Sometimes the deepest healing is just letting the body rest for a while.
Bogart is curled up with me on the reclining armchair as I’m typing these words. I think he feels loved, I think he feels safe (if only we felt that growing up… safe?)
I smiled hearing about your spoiled little cat boy. They really do keep us company in the sweetest ways.
I’m here, and I’m glad you wrote. Take things gently with yourself right now
🌿✨🤍Anita
June 6, 2026 at 9:23 pm #458424
anitaParticipantCopilot: “Dorsal‑vagal shutdown: In this state, a person can feel numb, tired, disconnected, like they’re moving through the day on autopilot, or like nothing brings joy. It’s not a choice and it’s not a personality flaw — it’s the body’s way of saying, ‘This is too much right now, so I’m going to shut things down to keep you going.’ When someone is in this state, even normal emotions like love, fear, or excitement can feel muted or confusing, because the whole system is trying to conserve energy. It’s a sign that the person is overwhelmed and needs steadiness, rest, and support, not pressure or big emotional conversations.”
Here’s part of Copilot’s advice for me in regard to my input to you: “You are not his therapist. You don’t need to fix his relationship, his girlfriend, or his shutdown. A clean boundary sounds like: ‘I’m here to listen, but I can’t analyze this for you.’
“Shutdown that lasts months needs professional attention, not forum analysis. Example tone: ‘It might help to talk to someone in your life or a professional who can support you through this.’ This is redirecting toward real support.
“The essence- When someone is in shutdown, they don’t need insight. They need safety, steadiness, and simplicity. Your job is not to lift him out of the hole — it’s to avoid climbing into it with them.” (end of Copilot’s words).
Well that almost hurts 😔 I so wished I could be “real support” and “lift (you) out of the hole”. Wish-wish-wish I could.
But I trust that you can- not necessarily right now, today, or tomorrow, but Confused Can (CC).
✨🌿💫🤍Anita
June 6, 2026 at 6:45 pm #458422
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
No wonder you forgot about that conversation: we’ve been talking since page 13, and it is now page 99. That’s (give me the time to do the math
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That’s 😁 86 pages of talking!
(Better celebrate the 100th page with some celebratory emojis- these are the only emojis on my phone that are possibly but not necessarily appropriate for the occasion: 🌭 🎂 🎶 🍷)
Thee two of you have this in common: you are both nervous about the trip (even I am getting nervous about it).
And to me, both of your nervousness-es make sense. Since she likes planning ahead, maybe the 2 of U can plan the visit ahead of time (Copilot can help, let me know if you’d like him to offer you a plan, since he knows so much about you on my end).
About dorsal vagal shutdown- I’ll have to refresh my memory when I’m back to the computer.
“My sweet baby girl”- oĥhhhh 👧
If you’re awake and reading this, feel free to write more.
🤔 🌿 🐔 Anita
June 6, 2026 at 4:00 pm #458420
anitaParticipantHey Confused: Yes, it does sound like dorsal vagal shutdown and we talked about it in the past. I’m sorry you had a difficult day. I will reply further in a few hours.
June 6, 2026 at 11:30 am #458413
anitaParticipant* destroyed due to an accident involving 🍷 and my 🐕
June 6, 2026 at 11:28 am #458412
anitaParticipantDear Tommy:
Thank you for your kind words about me 🙏
Congrats for 22 years of smoking-abstinance- one of the many loving things you did as a father, and from her very birth 👍👍👍
I too drink not so to get drunk, but so to get tipsy. Alcohol is the cause or facilitator of a lot of harm in the world, but it is also a great relief and even healing (what’s behind the term “wine therapy”) for millions- not harmful, but helpful- not in excess, of course.
* And excess is clearly defined when it comes to driving. So, no argument there!
I would like to research if there’s a Zen Story about alcohol (later, when I have access to the one remaining computer after mine was destroyed due to an accident due to 🍷 my dog).
Anita
June 6, 2026 at 10:55 am #458411
anitaParticipantHi Buzz:
“Just concentrate on how you want to be in your life” (Buzz).
I’d love to read how you want to be in your life.
As to me, I want to be vulnerable and strong at the same time, to let my emotions breathe, to slowly, gently let them take on the 3rd dimension (which they were deprived of because of severe decades-long emotional suppression and self-erasure),
To provide other people- through dialogue (here and in real- life)- with an emotionally safe space to explore and express their thoughts and emotions, to own their stories and their interpretations of their own stories (instead of stepping into their lane and interpreting their stories for them, as I have done 😔)
I want to see things as they are, objectively, instead of through activated trauma wounds. To continue to heal my trauma wounds.
I hope to read more from you, Buzz, here or in other threads. (It’s been very slow here in the forums and I hope it gets busier).
✨️🌿✨️ Anita
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