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June 6, 2026 at 9:23 pm #458424
anitaParticipantCopilot: “Dorsal‑vagal shutdown: In this state, a person can feel numb, tired, disconnected, like they’re moving through the day on autopilot, or like nothing brings joy. It’s not a choice and it’s not a personality flaw — it’s the body’s way of saying, ‘This is too much right now, so I’m going to shut things down to keep you going.’ When someone is in this state, even normal emotions like love, fear, or excitement can feel muted or confusing, because the whole system is trying to conserve energy. It’s a sign that the person is overwhelmed and needs steadiness, rest, and support, not pressure or big emotional conversations.”
Here’s part of Copilot’s advice for me in regard to my input to you: “You are not his therapist. You don’t need to fix his relationship, his girlfriend, or his shutdown. A clean boundary sounds like: ‘I’m here to listen, but I can’t analyze this for you.’
“Shutdown that lasts months needs professional attention, not forum analysis. Example tone: ‘It might help to talk to someone in your life or a professional who can support you through this.’ This is redirecting toward real support.
“The essence- When someone is in shutdown, they don’t need insight. They need safety, steadiness, and simplicity. Your job is not to lift him out of the hole — it’s to avoid climbing into it with them.” (end of Copilot’s words).
Well that almost hurts 😔 I so wished I could be “real support” and “lift (you) out of the hole”. Wish-wish-wish I could.
But I trust that you can- not necessarily right now, today, or tomorrow, but Confused Can (CC).
✨🌿💫🤍Anita
June 6, 2026 at 6:45 pm #458422
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
No wonder you forgot about that conversation: we’ve been talking since page 13, and it is now page 99. That’s (give me the time to do the math
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That’s 😁 86 pages of talking!
(Better celebrate the 100th page with some celebratory emojis- these are the only emojis on my phone that are possibly but not necessarily appropriate for the occasion: 🌭 🎂 🎶 🍷)
Thee two of you have this in common: you are both nervous about the trip (even I am getting nervous about it).
And to me, both of your nervousness-es make sense. Since she likes planning ahead, maybe the 2 of U can plan the visit ahead of time (Copilot can help, let me know if you’d like him to offer you a plan, since he knows so much about you on my end).
About dorsal vagal shutdown- I’ll have to refresh my memory when I’m back to the computer.
“My sweet baby girl”- oĥhhhh 👧
If you’re awake and reading this, feel free to write more.
🤔 🌿 🐔 Anita
June 6, 2026 at 4:00 pm #458420
anitaParticipantHey Confused: Yes, it does sound like dorsal vagal shutdown and we talked about it in the past. I’m sorry you had a difficult day. I will reply further in a few hours.
June 6, 2026 at 11:30 am #458413
anitaParticipant* destroyed due to an accident involving 🍷 and my 🐕
June 6, 2026 at 11:28 am #458412
anitaParticipantDear Tommy:
Thank you for your kind words about me 🙏
Congrats for 22 years of smoking-abstinance- one of the many loving things you did as a father, and from her very birth 👍👍👍
I too drink not so to get drunk, but so to get tipsy. Alcohol is the cause or facilitator of a lot of harm in the world, but it is also a great relief and even healing (what’s behind the term “wine therapy”) for millions- not harmful, but helpful- not in excess, of course.
* And excess is clearly defined when it comes to driving. So, no argument there!
I would like to research if there’s a Zen Story about alcohol (later, when I have access to the one remaining computer after mine was destroyed due to an accident due to 🍷 my dog).
Anita
June 6, 2026 at 10:55 am #458411
anitaParticipantHi Buzz:
“Just concentrate on how you want to be in your life” (Buzz).
I’d love to read how you want to be in your life.
As to me, I want to be vulnerable and strong at the same time, to let my emotions breathe, to slowly, gently let them take on the 3rd dimension (which they were deprived of because of severe decades-long emotional suppression and self-erasure),
To provide other people- through dialogue (here and in real- life)- with an emotionally safe space to explore and express their thoughts and emotions, to own their stories and their interpretations of their own stories (instead of stepping into their lane and interpreting their stories for them, as I have done 😔)
I want to see things as they are, objectively, instead of through activated trauma wounds. To continue to heal my trauma wounds.
I hope to read more from you, Buzz, here or in other threads. (It’s been very slow here in the forums and I hope it gets busier).
✨️🌿✨️ Anita
June 5, 2026 at 8:27 pm #458399
anitaParticipantJust thinking this Friday night:
Raining here cats and dogs. On and off, not constant, so it catches you by surprise and quickly slows down. In other words, it’s not steady.
Do you have people in your life who are like that: not steady and catching you by surprise? In a way that leaves you unexpectedly cold and drenched?
I find nothing more desirable in a person than being steady/ non- reactive.
I came across people who seem steady and friendly and (that word:Mature(- until they get trigerred and then ALL HELL BREAKES LOOSE.
I’ve seen it online and offline.
Some people become unglued in loud, aggressive ways. I’ve mostly overreacted/ became unglued by withdrawing, as in, ‘I’m done talking with you forever, goodbye!’
My mother was like the rain tonight, only the rain she dropped on me was 🔥, which means her rain burnt through me. In other words, her aggressive anger scared the hell out of me, and it made ME very, very angry.
I find myself carrying so much (justified/ understandable) suppressed anger. Suppressed by a history of feeling guilt over feeling angry and self- doubt.
More, some time later (it stopped raining, for now).
Anita
June 5, 2026 at 7:57 pm #458398
anitaParticipantHow R U, Seaturtle, one year, six months and three weeks since you posted last?
🙂 Anita
June 5, 2026 at 7:39 pm #458397
anitaParticipantThis thread is a marketing promotion/ advertisement for “My ESA Therapist” & for “Real ESA Letter.com” disguised as ‘just asking’ posts, or like in the other 2 threads (promoting the same) disguised as asking for advice.
Anita
June 4, 2026 at 5:36 pm #458382
anitaParticipantHey Tom:
It just so happens that Roberta, in her thread “Inspirational videos & books” posted less than 5 hours after you did a YouTube video link called “Right livelihood: work as love with Mei Elliot” and I wonder if it may be of some help to you.
I am reading: “The core of Mei Elliott’s teaching is that Right Livelihood is not just about what job you have — it’s about the quality of heart you bring to whatever work you do. She reframes work as a daily opportunity to practice love, presence, and ethical care.
Instead of seeing work as a source of pressure, self‑worth, or anxiety, she invites people to relate to work as a form of service: a way to reduce suffering, increase connection, and act from compassion. She emphasizes that Right Livelihood is grounded in the Buddha’s ethics — non‑harm, honesty, and integrity — but also in tenderness: the intention to meet each task with awareness rather than self‑judgment.
She speaks about how work becomes distorted when driven by fear, perfectionism, or the need to prove oneself, and how it becomes liberating when approached with kindness toward oneself and others. The talk encourages listeners to soften around the idea of “success,” to release the pressure of productivity, and to let work be an expression of love rather than a measure of personal value.”
I know about a few of the significant negatives of your job and that you’ve been looking for a better one for a long time. And I am thinking that- for as long as you are doing the job you do- maybe some change in attitude, as is described in this video, will help…?
Anita
June 4, 2026 at 2:49 pm #458377
anitaParticipantDear Tom:
It’s so good to hear from you and congratulations to you and your partner on the pregnancy 🤍
🌿✨. I can imagine how it feels both exciting and unreal at this early stage, and how natural it is for nerves to show up alongside the happiness. Big changes often bring both.It also makes sense that the job situation feels heavier now. Pressure tends to grow when responsibilities grow, but you’ve always shown that you do your best with what’s in front of you, step by step. That’s all anyone can do.
I’m well, thank you for asking. Actually, it made my day to read the news from you, brings the first smile of the day to my face 🙂
Anita
June 3, 2026 at 10:05 pm #458365
anitaParticipant“I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love”-
Not Randomly.
When Love feels Dangerous, no wonder you run away from it.
Anita
June 3, 2026 at 9:32 pm #458364
anitaParticipantBonjour SereneWolf:
I posted to you in your other thread some time ago that I looked for the photo of the SERENE WOLF sign in the winery but seemed like I deleted it sometime along the way. I wish I didn’t so that I could somehow post it for you here.
I reread your very first post in tiny buddha (as Addy, remember?). It was on Sept 22, 2022 (age 26) and decided to copy it for my favorite AI (Copilot) and then, I quoted your most recent post of May 8, 2026 (age 30?) Those 2 posts and nothing else, and asked Copilot what stayed the same and what changed.
Copilot: “Across four years, the content of SereneWolf’s life changed — he went from unemployed and hopeless to finally getting the full‑time remote job he dreamed of — but the structure of his inner world stayed almost exactly the same:
“The same self‑doubt, the same fear of failure, the same ‘don’t mess this up’ voice, the same collapse of energy after hope, the same loneliness that surges when stress rises, and the same belief that one rejection or one difficulty predicts the whole future.
“What’s different now is not his emotional pattern but his circumstances: in 2022 he feared he’d never get a job; in 2026 he fears he won’t be able to keep the job.
“In 2022 he doubted his relationship would work; in 2026 he doubts he can feel secure in connection at all. In 2022 he felt hopeless because nothing was happening; in 2026 he feels overwhelmed because something finally did happen.
“The external story changed — the internal voice did not. His negative inner critic simply moved from ‘you’ll never get a job’ to ‘you won’t be able to handle the job,’ proving that the problem was never the job market but the persistent, unhealed pattern inside him.”
What says you, SereneWolf: does Copilot (having been given only 2 of your posts- 3 years, 7 months and 13 days apart, and nothing else)- knows what it’s talking about?
And more importantly, how are you, SereneWolf?
As I read through your posts in this thread earlier today, I was again impressed by how gracious and kind you’ve been all along.. positively special, really. In a way I failed to appreciate at times (because I was more messed up than I am today 😳), and I regret that.
I hope to read back from you, and maybe it’ll be a good thing for you and for me, to reconnect in a healthier, positive, helpful way?
Anita
June 2, 2026 at 10:36 pm #458348
anitaParticipantJust thinking this Tues night:
Continued the above: to connect more in mutually expansive ways is my dream, in ways that expand you and me, make the two of us more confident and peaceful within, more curious, more adventurous, hungrier for life.
Vs shutting down, contracting, hiding, numbing, depressing.
Hungrier for Life.
Anita
June 2, 2026 at 10:27 pm #458347
anitaParticipantHmmm… This is big, confused:
True Love Expands you, makes you more confident, peaceful within, curious, adventurous, expansive. And if “love” contracts you, makes you fearful, numb, smaller.. why, that’s not love.
That makes a lot of sense to me, Confused. It wasn’t love that I grew up with because it contracted me, made me fearful, made me shut down to life.
Enough for tonight.
Anita
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