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    Alecsee
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    The other place is 1100 with everything included in the rent. I just dont like living in the bottom floor and being in an apartment makes me feel like im taking a step back and i really likewhere I live now

    Alecsee
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    I Agree. The one that “got away” chose me and even wanted to move to my city. It was a lesson that I learned the hard way and even her dad was financially wealthy as well. But i was very immature (more so than now) and could not really think about staying with a partner forever.

    Yes, Im observing! Actually. I made a promise to myself that the next partner I have to feel that theyre it. and then I can go all in. I think I am always attracting ppl when I am my happiest but then I end up pouring myself into them. Its funny i could have chosen my first love but God made it so I have to do it the hard way. its always the hard way :/

    Alecsee
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    I appreciate it! Its weird. I have to write the narrative that she knows she didnt give me love and that I did get obsessive only because she just dissapeared into the void. I was patient for 14 months, 14 months of reassurance doubt and guilt. I had to let her walk away and never have access to me. But in reality, we werent meant for each other and she needed to move on easily. Idk it hurts a lot but i think i forced myself to do it. But anyway. at 34 years old i do not know why intimacy, having intercourse feel good with a specificbody type and looks and body type matter to me so much.Ive been fortunae enough to be really blessed in my dating pool but the harsh reality… I was serious about someone who was just always an avoidant. I had to always ask her about her to know about her. And even when I asked she wasnt really revealing. She never wanted to reveal herself to me so she could always walk away when it benefited her. I just have to write this narrative. i made a ton of mistakes. Some crucial ones but im only human. and just wanted to be accepted and vibe with all my flaws. she made me resent her

    Alecsee
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    I appreciate it Anita! i have been avoiding skimming over this for awhile now.

    it sucks to relive this but in a way i have to confront it

    the way she expected me to stay no matter how long it took? It was 14 months I waited for her to return some sort of love. and i was beyond patient. my limit broke after no contact. If she was a nice person, her fathers death could have been shared but because she was mean to her friends and family and partner, the death meant she could never apologize and she felt bad cuz of that

    what kills me is these moments where she exemplifies the good traits I had and all the good moments that i brought into the relationship. if that wasn good enough, what was?

    She broke my trust into not confiding she needed time to recover from her Dads death. She never said ANYTHING to that respect. and when we talked, she seemed to brush it off. what she said and what she wanted did not match up, and i trusted her words. i trusted in what she said unfortunately as truth

    Alecsee
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    and then me trying to explain the logic in a lengthy two segments

    Jeez, just stop with the bombarding messages. Send a message when you make up your mind and proof read before sending.

    I heard you, you heard me.
    I have nothing else to tell you or to hear from you.
    We’re done.

    Hope you find happiness one day.
    Good bye.

    Alecsee
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    After the cheating lie was revealed:

    Wow. Something is seriously wrong with you.

    Firstly, whether you cheating was a lie or not, I don’t trust you any more.
    Secondly, how immature are you really to use such lie to get one’s – supposedly someone that you “cared” about, attention. Let alone, knowing that cheating x lying is the trauma trigger for that person.
    Thirdly, what is wrong about avoiding.

    I have been nothing but honest with you with every feelings, and have put efforts in communicating, even if that meant facing arguments and conflicts, haven’t I?
    I even told you, in fact, multiple times, when I was emotionally exhausted and in the verge of checking out.
    And what did you do?

    You said you love me more than anything, you said you care about me more than you could’ve ever done, you made it seem like you could make things better.

    You didn’t.
    You didn’t start off from avoiding anything, you made me become avoidant, because once I gave you my heart and that safe place to be in – you started piling up your bullshit, just sitting on your ass instead of making things better, nourishing the heart, and respecting boundaries.

    Just accept it. You didn’t really care about me or loved me to the extent you expressed in words – you were just drunk in your own fantasy. Your actions always pointed back at how you cared about yourself only, and being in a relationship that you thought was perfect for you.

    And for the how-many-time-th Idk I’ve told you.
    I didn’t break up with you because I lost a parent.
    I broke up with you because I needed peace in life and clarity in mind more than anything, and you were not contributing.

    In full honesty, I was going to text you back when you messaged me after a while of silence, but I still needed time to sort out my emotions and was being slow.

    That, I accept as my fault. But when you continued to go on a mad spree of copy&paste messaging me on multiple platforms, that freaked me out, made me anxious, and I decided not to engage with.

    If you truly cared about me and really understood what I was going through, you would’ve not done that and instead waited, with trust that one day I will get back, no matter how long that took.

    So I hope you see now my side of the story.
    You broke my trust, disrespected my boundaries, and disrupted my peace.
    That is the sole reason why I no longer want to share any moment of my life or time with you.

    You can make me the villain of all cause, if that brings you peace.
    I admit not being a good partner to you, but at this point of distrust I’m not even sure if I feel sorry or not.
    Maybe I am a little.
    Sorry that I wasn’t your ideal partner and you, and I, should both not waste our energy in continuing this game of trying to one-up another any further.

    Alecsee
    Participant

    Sending the cheating lie in November in person after no hearing:

    Here’s the closure you’ve been asking for so persistently – since being on a call for 7h to hear what you wanted to say, wasn’t enough.

    I was silent, because I simply needed time.
    I didn’t do anything differently than usual, or anything against what I said – I just needed the time alone.

    But experiencing your bombarding attempts to hear from me, was an eye-opening time to see how selfish, and obsessive you could be.

    And here are some facts that might clear your wonders:
    1. I never blocked you on LINE
    2. I never cheated, and never will.
    Cheating is the ONE thing I will never accept, and no excuse will make it right. (Makes me angry why you had to tell me that you cheated, let alone assume that I cheated on you? What do you take me for. Fuck you.)
    3. Your online stalking and physical approach with mails and leaving stuff at my place is nothing else but creepy. You even put my family in anxious state, and it is not acceptable. I guess you never thought to put yourself in my shoes, or in anyone’s shoes other than yours in life I guess.
    4. With the 3 factors above being the prominent reason to my conclusion – I never want to see you or hear from you again. Ever.

    Nevertheless, I will end on one note – I appreciate the good times we did have, and I acknowledge that it was love to you, for giving me all the love you could. That is a quality that not many people have or could act end, and I hope one day we both can find someone to feel as such again.

    Our time has ended and you should move on. You will never see me or hear from me so please stop trying, or even, hoping for something that has zero chance of happening.
    I despise cheaters and they don’t even deserve a closure tbh.
    That’s all. Bye.

    Alecsee
    Participant

    well my other message didnt send… thats sad. How can someone that doesnt want u in their lives be the love of your life? she didnt want me several times but long distance is hard. A person that doesnt want u by their side in a time of hardship, the hardest one in their life, btw, isnt that just a stranger and not a life time partner. i put in the effort even tho it was one sided. she did try but it was easier to just answer the question than avoid. and then she never confided in me. she confided with me when she broke up with me and after her work was done.. I made mistakes and thats why i wanted to correct and try to show her I was there for her but some things are meant to be ig.

    Alecsee
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    so because of the way she made me feel, of her casual dating tag, of her not giving me an answer even to end the relationship definitively, even not remembering my bday, I had all this resentment, of saying she “got lazy” to respond to me after no contact. How can someone who is suppoesd to care for you just leave you hanging. I get that ppl respond to death differently grieve differently. But not ever addressing things in this relationship and just leaving silence amiss is what triggers insecurity in people. idk. I did what I could, I snapped at like the 5th block, what am I supposed to do. assume the best when theyre showing me the worst? Its 100% done after the final interaction. Even then, she never gave me a space to talk to her. always hiding, never confronting.

    Alecsee
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    anxious attachment came back from me. and jealousy and all these things ive worked hard to overcome. and i never thought of the benefit of the doubt because she showed me otherwise

    Alecsee
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    Anita! tysm! I have and reflected a lot on it. Her and I’s upbringing is definitely why things happened like this.

    I wanted to perfect and never rejected, so i did things to please.

    She wasnt loved adequately. and so avoidant attachment

    Alecsee
    Participant

    Ty so much for your reply. I do not know why I weigh so heavily into intimacy and looks even though im 34 years old. Really only started real relationships at 22. But this is how I think unfortunately for now. I really like how you described the long distance< I totally agree. I apologize if my words were offensive but in my mind thats how I see the loss. We had a relationship based on lust and that foundation wasnt good. And in reality some men are wired like this. I saw her as my equal but we did share any interests only upbringings and same language types. grew up around the same food etc.so the fact that she cooked the food I grew up with was really cool. she also brought in my weak traits and made them better. Its a big hit for me for sure. I tried to be patient. But I was resentful because she didnt want to be with me when her dad passed away. I totally messed up but her way of conflct was just run away and never have it. There are a lot of behind the scenes stuff I havent disclaimed. But she basically always wanted to break up pull away and that was like 8-9 times and she was very condescending and toxic. Because I wanted to make it work out I bit my toungue and was drained of myself. when she never replied. I just lost it. I wanted to walk away and her to never have access to me but in those 30 min I couldnt have changed my mind. Something in me broke and it was unlike me. She pushed me to that limit but I also rejected myself to that pt. so yeah

    Alecsee
    Participant

    Not the best. Here’s an update

    I posted this on another forum

    Had an LDR gf for 1.5 years. I let a lot of red flags slip by and I became really passive and accepting basically shaping myself little by little to her needs. I would describe her attachment style as avoidant and me as a anxious attachment style. Anyways first year was okay we visited each other constantly but when she was on vacation and she went to my place she was relatively calm. But when she was working and I went over to her place in Japan (and even when she wasn’t working) we always bumped heads since I was in HER personal space. It always wasn’t good enough, my cleaning and she was uncomfortable as was I. After that. And during the first year she would question why she was in a lost distance relationship. She valued proximity and I couldn’t move to Japan until 5 years until I was vested at my work. I tried getting a 7 on 7 days off job but wasn’t successful and was devastated. Idk if we really understood each other as I had to ask a bunch of questions to get her to talk about herself. I like my partners to share about themselves, that’s one of my love languages. She was getting exhausted because she was trying to explain things and felt like her point wasn’t getting across. The way she phrased things was weird, she had a British English. Well like 10 months into the relationship we had a big fight and she was upset on how I handled it. She had been hesitant about the relationship prior a lot but this is the first time she wanted to break up.. she worked in the film industry so she had no time to have a serious relationship but long distance was perfect for her. Even tho she wanted the proximity. On a random short day she can meet her friends and her bf too. I basically kept the relationship alive each and every time she was thinking about it breaking up. So she was getting into the busy part of her project. She basically didn’t want me to visit her while she was working. I insisted because my favorite band was playing in Tokyo. And she kind of said no and wanted to break up, then said okay you can go and I asked if I could stay with her and she had to think about it. Originally she was slightly not in favor of it and the more she thought that I thought i was entitled to stay with her in semi peak work hours she got upset. I compromised and said I would get a hotel near her. For two nights she let me stay at her place. She said I needed to think about the relationship and what I could do to change. So she said she would be give me my 2nd chance Fast forward to May. She had not scheduled a single visit to visit me sin almost more than 10 months ago. I was very frustrated when she said she made plans with her friends and I should have told her sooner to make plans with her. Mind you our last talk over phone or in person was in January. We were gonna talk March/April but we both missed the time and never really rescheduled. I wanted to break up in frustration and then her dad passes away. I did what any bf would do. Be there but she was in shock..(later she criticized me for trying to be the perfect boyfriend to put on a show)

    I always freeze in deaths of loved ones. I waited for her to reach out for me. I kept telling her I wanted to visit at the end of June for an event or I could visit her too. She might have thought I wanted the event more. So she broke up and then started to vent about her Dad and situation. I couldn’t dissociate the two things so I just panicked. Later on I still went to the event but just left gifts and flowers at her place. She was happy at the nice gesture but livid at the thought of me swinging by or attempting to swing by. In mid July she tried to hear me out when she was on vacation but she went really ballistic and one little thing after some seshes of talks made her not want to continue. She then told me something that opened a deep wound, that I couldn’t seize the moment. That hurt since a lot of times in my life I’ve been really close to the goal and success and just fell short. I reacted and called her a bad person. She said her ex did the same thing. And also cheated on her and never apologized. She said she neesed more time one week after to see if she wanted to continue the relationship. During that time she blocked me on her phone and what’s app but not on social media. That’s when I did no contact for 5 weeks and then couldn’t stand it and contactes her a week after my bday. Said I was 34 like when I met her(she was now 36). She just left me on read. She claims to have not blocked me but Im almost certain she did. I would send a message here or there and didn’t realize the block happened until two weeks later. I thought she just muted me. Then I went on a bad frenzy 😔

    She also waited until the nasty fight in July to tell me she wanted to take over her dad’s humble coffee business. She waited 1.5yrs to tell me

    I started emailing her all my previous’ messages that I had sent. Maybe one every other day. In two different accounts. On Google messages. And nothing. Then I saw she blocked me on other things.. obviously I was suffocating but I was panicking cuz didn’t know if she had moved on. Apparently it was her Dad’s passing I later found out. But she just up and left no word. For 4 months. I sent a letter that I would be in her town for close to 2 weeks. Then no response. I left a package with gifts and same message.. nothing. I thought it was completely over and I was never going to Japan again. So I wanted a fairwell. One week before she broke with me I had a one night stand as a lie because I was so upset at everything, she didn’t want to visit me, she didn’t want to talk to me about her Dad and the most important thing I wanted to ask about the event again and I didn’t think she would blow up like she said. So I told her in a letter as a final farewell and letter. I chased so much and she didn’t make an effort to contact or see each in many months. So I wrote it. Dunno if that’s the sole reason she replied, cuz her ego was hurt but then I retracted everything and told her it was to get her attention. She said the relationship flourished because I kept it alive she also said she didn’t that feel bad and that I should have known and waited for her but she had not told me anything about healing .she just up and left..and she said she never wanted to see me again. After the retract, she said she lost trust.. that I broke her boundaries and that I disturbed her peace. And that the reason she broke up with me was because she needed peace in her mind and clarity and I wasnt providing any of that.

    Did I mess up by telling her the cheating part? it was a lie but I felt horrible, but I owned up to it. It wasn’t right, I completely regret it but now it’s done and I can’t go back..did I ever have a chance? Or to win her back in retrospect? Or was this doomed from the start. Now when I go to Tokyo I’ll always think of her. I’m always fixated on her body type as it’s not common and she fit my ideal girl language and type standards. Im still incredibly sad.. I would have continued but with all of this it seemed hard. I think I was just so fixated on the physical, that our connection never really got there. Idk maybe we were incompatible. Ty for reading, cheers-

    It’s been 2.5 months since i did this. Its been haunting and eats at me cuz it feels like there may have been some possibility in how she phrased things if i hadn’t lost control of my emotions. Idk if she blocked me one final time, sne deactivated her Instagram or i had bad signal but that triggered the final straw. I never gave her the benefit of the doubt like you said but at some pt I did. And was extremely patient. She just left me with more questions and ghosting and misleading pulling away than answers. She definitely was a dismissive avoidant and displayed that attachment style

    Alecsee
    Participant

    Funny that you comment Anita! I was going to post in this thread
    !

    Alecsee
    Participant

    Thank you Anita! I appreciate it. So I have come to the conclusion that women are always attracted to me or come to me when I am the most confident or have the most positive vibes in my life. Whether it be on apps, I meet them by chance or travelling, it has been mostly the case. And so the relationship is built on that foundation most of the times, because at the time I am the best version of myself that I can be. This has really been the case for all my past relationships that mattered. The only one that lasted the longest is when me and my first serious relationship of 4 years dated. I was introduced to her by a friend and we both asked for each other.

    Im thinking its hard to not be sexual early on in dating cuz you wanna know if there is sexual compatibility as well. So just be friends? But since I am impatient or do a lot of Long distance its hard. If it was for me, I wouldnt do long distance. I know im not old but 34 years old but I just vibe more with people of Japanese decent or maybe im trying to mimic or replace my first gf. I know I cant do that tho. Anywho these were my thoughts yesterday talking to my friend:

    Yeah u are right. I tried to best love her with all my might but it was surface love. We actually are total opposites. I did everything I could on my end. And yes I messed up 2 times with her boundaries and maybe 3 times but maybe that was my downfall. I had a LDR before and i did everything right and still got the boot. So maybe its me thinking I can be free and do whatever I want. But eventually there is consequences. I appreciate you taking the time to talk and respond yo. I guess i am a hopeful person and we tried it. Sometimes its hard to face the reality. But now I know what my first LDR felt. She loved me for me, and I loved the same way. It was a way for Karma to get back at me but this journey we call life only happens once so like you said. The path is leading to a dead end. I am too hopeful and was trying to avoid that dead end. I think she may have moved on in NC. Thats the best explanation. For some reason, she escalated our last talk way too much. And triggered both sides. So maybe that is what it was. Whatever it is, and yeah i made a lot of mistakes these last 9 months. I guess me not thinking long term bit me in the butt. The quality women are taken lol At 22 my 24 y/o gf was quality lol. Im 34 now. So yeah its gonna be hard. and gotta wait til i find someone who vibes-

    She broke up with me and the fight ended badly. 1 week later she sent the I need to think whether this is for me or not. In between she was busy with a project but i bombarded her with memories etc. The reason the fight ended badly was cuz we didnt give each others a chance to speak. All because I was tired and send her stuff i forgot to send her previously. I do interupt ppl here and there but I guess she was trying to get all her thoughts out and I replied immediately . She told me i couldnt seize the moment and then I told her she was a bad person. Both things triggered us a lot. Tbh I was very tired, 3 days with very little sleep trying to sleep with her time zone. I wanna move on. But i have a certain type, and fit that category exactly. She also spoke spanish which is important to me. Does this sound like a relationship that would last ever? What am I seeing here? Are we just ppl with opposite views and different ppl? She’s only had one bf of 6 years and shes 36. She has been in an intense career of 9-10 years where it doesnt allow for a relationship to flourish, (works as a PM for film/shoots/commercials). So her career was her top priority for sure. And up until her dads death she wanted to get a less stressful role in film process (If there is one) but yeah we only have animals and traveling in common and being introverted. We had the same upbringing tho. How close do in personality do ppl have to be to grow old together? How close do the hobbies have to intertwine? Ive noticed i dont have many common interests with many of my partners of the past. And i have a type, body type, race that i have gone for and am attracted to.

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