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Alessa
ParticipantAnother difficulty with this forum is the sensitive nature this space and the vulnerability of its users.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Peter
I guess, I see relationships as a two way street. For me, the goal is for all parties to work together and respect each others triggers.
I understand what you mean about personal responsibility and these things being a chance to grow and practice self-care. I see things similarly too.
I don’t think working together takes away from that. It is just a matter of being kind and respectful to each other. That is what people who care about each other do.
I think the difficulty with triggers is that communicating about them can be quite hurtful to others if it is not handled very carefully. For me, it is important to make an effort to be kind to the person that has set off the trigger. It is possible to talk about it in healthy ways. I find it is usually best to calm down first. Then it is easier to distance the person from the trigger.
On a side note, I find it interesting how circumstances vastly impact conflict. Here for example, is a public forum. It carries inherent risks, such as public shaming and gossiping about others. It is much easier to deal with conflict privately.
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Alessa
ParticipantHi James
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I really appreciate your advise. You hit the nail on the head, it is handling the emotions that come up with the grasping that I’m working on. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Lucidity
Yes, I totally agree regarding apologies. Like you said, it’s as much for me as it is for the other person. Self-compassion is very much central.
I know that I have difficulties with being blamed. I tend to take it to heart and reflect on it because I care. It is easy to go too hard on myself. It is not something that people necessarily see either because I hide it. So what people can perceive as aloofness is just me hiding how I feel.
I know that when I struggled more with conflict it was difficult to reflect on my own mistakes. It was painful and I blamed myself a lot. I think a lot of people avoid reflecting for this reason. Learning from my mistakes, trying my best not to repeat them and making amends is really all I can do to handle things in a healthy way. I realised that blaming myself harshly was just a cycle of self-abuse, it does no good.
I think that is honestly fair. There is no need to put yourself through unnecessary suffering. 😊
Hmm my answer is that I guess that I have come to see that blaming others is just as harmful as blaming ourselves. One hand washes the other. Can we honestly say that we can offer ourselves compassion if we can’t offer it to others?
Also, I find anger and stress generally harmful. It’s best for me to let it go rather than hold a grudge. Offering apologies and forgiveness is helpful in letting these feelings go.
That being said, I agree that things need to be reciprocal and there is no need to remain in contact if someone is genuinely harmful to be around, or if they simply don’t want to be in contact.
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Alessa
ParticipantHi Lucidity
No worries! Thanks for your advise. 😊 He is all better now. The poached apple and ginger sounds lovely. I will definitely try it. ❤️
He mostly ate bread, fruit, yogurt, soup and smoothies while he was sick. Lost some weight, but I feed him up so he has something to lose when he gets sick. It is a relief to see him back to himself. 🙏
Alessa
ParticipantHi James
It’s lovely to see that you created your own thread! ❤️
Thank you for the food for thought. I’m curious if you have any thoughts about radical acceptance?
Perhaps it is what I’m learning about at the moment? To me it feels related to not grasping.
I care quite deeply. I’m trying to learn, not to stop caring, but to soften and relax it. 😊
Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
I like the idea of the story being contained within us, not being the story ourselves.
Unfortunately, because of severe trauma. I feel like stories run in the background for me. It’s not necessarily a conscious choice. I have done my best to sort out the conscious stuff. Even well intended things can have a story in the background.
Perfection, unlovable, not safe, no trust, in pain, hungry.
Doesn’t sound like a story to define me at all anymore. Just a memory from childhood. I’m trying to be more mindful of when these things creep in. I want to act without a story secretly driving it behind the scenes.
A beautiful story Peter, thanks for sharing! ❤️
I always thought of these things as climbing out of an abyss.
As a child, I could climb out of it myself being blissfully ignorant of reality. But when that ignorance was shattered by the harshness of reality, the weight of my trauma immobilised me. I needed help to fight my way out of it. I didn’t know how, someone had to show me the way. I learned to trust things that I don’t understand yet.
I try to gather teachings. Carry them with me. Looking at them from time to time. Some I don’t understand yet, I will know when the time is right. Some I am drawn to like a magpie. I learned to put those ones on even when I don’t understand them. I don’t mind not understanding consciously yet, the draw is enough. Something in me sees it for what it is.
I can climb out of the abyss faster now. I’ve done it many times. I don’t mind asking for help when I need it. It gets me out that much faster.
Everyone has their own way. ❤️❤️❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi James
Thanks for your kindness! ❤️
Is there anything you want to share that you feel like you suffer with silently?
I find that it helps to not be alone with it. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantI don’t know about being wise. 😊 I just have had really good therapists and have been lucky enough to meet some wise and kind people. I try my best to remember everything that people teach me, even if I don’t understand it at the time.
I find that life is like an esoteric book. Sometimes I don’t understand things. In time and with experience, it starts to make sense. Memory is a precious tool to rely on. In time, advise people have given me clicks into place.
Hmm well, I’ve been there myself. It’s not an easy process getting out of these habits. I think the most important thing is getting therapy and of course, to treat yourself kindly. It’s a journey and I feel like I’m always learning new things to work on. No matter where you are on the journey, to me if you’re trying your best that is good enough. Mistakes happen, it is what you do afterwards that matters. Trying to make amends is an important part in the process for me.
I also find having good experiences and maintaining relationships with people who have had similar difficulties and done their best to fight their way through it is important for healing too. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
Something I have been thinking about recently is a responsibility to manage our own feelings.
One of the difficulties with C-PTSD is sensitivity, hyper vigilance. I find that my C-PTSD and Autism combine to create feelings that don’t accurately reflect reality.
Things can be more painful than they would be if these conditions weren’t present.
It is important to me to acknowledge this disparity. And to try to act in a healthy way by soothing myself and managing situations in appropriate ways, as opposed to being based on my feelings.
Realistically, internet drama is a very low tier issue.
Redirecting to the actual issues. My C-PTSD and autism helps me to feel more comfortable because I know how to deal with that. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
I used to worry about the past memories and feelings unfolding into the present. But I was relieved to learn that according to Buddhism it is normal, just a part of the present and being human. Something to be accepted with compassion and not fought against or judged.
I’ve been learning about Abhidharma, very early stages. It seems like a vast topic. It seems to me from what I’ve learned so far that everyone has these stories.
The way that I think about it is that they are just one small part of me. I have let some stories go, others linger. There is so much more than the stories. Perhaps, the only reason I feel that stories define me is when I believe it believe that to be true.
Interestingly, most of our brain development is done by the age of 5.
Gratitude practice has helped me a lot. I have more positive memories than negative now.
I suppose like anything else, sharing stories can be good or bad. It depends on the purpose and the outcome.
If you’d like to share your story. You are welcome to Peter. If you don’t want to, of course that is fine too. ❤️
There is nothing wrong with being different. Some of my favourite people are different. You are not alone. ❤️
One of my friends practices what I would describe as radical acceptance. It is very interesting. No part of the human experience is “bad” just to be accepted. I’m fascinated with his perspective at the moment.
I’m glad that you found your peace Yana. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Miss Duchess
I’m sorry it seems like there has been a misunderstanding again. I’m glad that you shared your feelings and were able to let me know. ❤️
You asked if others had ever had any experiences of social isolation. I shared my story and what helped me because you asked for people to share. It wasn’t advice for you. ❤️
I think these misunderstandings are a good thing though. It highlights the difficulties that you experience socially. Learning that the way you perceive things is a fear or misunderstanding can be helpful instead of assuming that painful feelings are true.
I experience similar issues because of my trauma and autism. It is important to try and soothe yourself, try to challenge negative thinking. Asking questions, so people can clarify their intentions is particularly helpful for me.
Only yesterday, I took something personally because I didn’t understand it and it wasn’t explained very well. So I politely asked “I’m trying to understand what just happened. Why did that just happen? To me, it seemed like you wanted this.”
After the explanation, I was able to see I had misunderstood things.
It seems like your family just simply didn’t know how to help you. Which is understandable they are not specialists and don’t have these difficulties themselves.
Yes, on the one hand you have suffered because of your late diagnosis. On the other, your condition is not as serious as some other people. You are able to be functional which is why it came so late. I think you did really well coping with your difficulties and trying your best to manage them on your own. You have a lot to be proud of. Now you have your answers, you will figure out the rest. ❤️
I’m glad that sharing about your diagnosis and mental health has been received positively. You deserve that support. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantWhen I was a teenager, I started getting my period and my biological mother wanted me to use tampons. I didn’t want to. I had been using pads just fine.
Our bathroom door didn’t have a lock because she didn’t want us to have one.
Begrudgingly, I agreed to try a tampon. I refused to let her help me with it. Or show me. I didn’t want her anywhere near me.
I barricaded myself in the bathroom and did it myself. Ironically, my periods were too heavy and tampons were useless to me.
It was a screaming match. While I tried as hard as I could, with literally every bit of strength I had to hold the door closed to keep her out, whilst she tried to force her way in. Afterwards, when she finally gave up. I cried.
What the hell is your problem? Can’t you see that you are traumatising her? Get out right now before I call the police.
You can’t tell me what to do in my own house.
Yes, I can. *starts to dial*
Okay, I’m leaving.
She’s gone now. You’re safe. I’m right here. Take all the time you need. I’m not going to come into the bathroom. I’ll just be right here keeping you safe.
Please leave me alone.
I know you’re scared. I’m not going to leave you alone. But I’m not going to come in. I’m going to wait outside until you’re ready to come out. I’m not going to hug you or anything when you do. I’m not going to touch you. No one should be alone dealing with this c**p.
It makes me feel safe.
I know, but the best I can do is to stay outside of the room because it wouldn’t be right for me to leave you when you’re so scared. I’ll wait as long as it takes. I’m here for you. I don’t want to scare you. Is there anything that will help you to feel safe?
Music.
Okay. No problem, I can do that. 🎶🎷🎺
Thanks.
Is there anything else?
No, thanks. Is she really gone?
Yup. It’s just me out here. I won’t let her hurt you.
Promise?
Of course! I promise!
Okay. I’m coming out. But no touching.
Of course, I promise.
Is there anything you want?
I’m tired.
Okay, well we shouldn’t stay here. Do you want to go somewhere safe where she’ll never find you?
Nods.
Great! Let’s go then. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantMy biological mother sexually abused me. Society doesn’t like to consider that women are capable of that. She even tried grooming other girls.
How anyone could do that to their child, or any child is beyond me. People should never hurt kids. Or anyone really. It’s horrifying, I’m so sorry. ❤️
I hated being a girl, because she didn’t do it to my brother. Just me.
For a long time, I didn’t even like other girls or women because of her abuse. I hung around boys.
I wished I was a boy. I hated myself. For a long time I dressed as a boy without telling anyone. On the street I would often be mistaken for a boy. I even considered transitioning. The surgery and the hormones sounded like a lot of effort though. I wanted to see if I could get used to being a woman first. I did. I don’t really think much of gender identity though. It is so fluid. Just a social construct to me really. I don’t hate women anymore either.
It makes sense that you struggled with gender issues because of your abuse. I’m glad that you found your way through it and are comfortable in your own skin now. That’s a really important thing!
I think the worst part of the abuse was having my boundaries ignored until I was physically capable of fighting her off. This was worse for me than the hitting, or the verbal abuse. Something about it just fills me with so much anger.
I think it’s understandable to be angry. I’m angry for you, at what you went through. That your protests were ignored. That it continued until you could win a fight against her. It’s horrific.
She is no longer legally able to be around children after what she did to me. I didn’t prosecute her, but I believe she is on some kind of register.
That is something at least. No other kids will be hurt.
What happened stays with me. A lot of young people touch themselves these days, to satisfy sexual urges. I cannot. Something about it, just reminds me of that trauma. I tried to figure that out once upon a time. But I gave up. Better to just leave it than deal with the difficulties that come with it. The self-hatred is too much.
That is honestly a fair decision. I’m so sorry that she left such deep emotional scars. The most important thing is taking care of yourself and if that type of thing makes you feel uncomfortable, you don’t have to fight your way through it to get better. I feel like that would be retraumatising. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Miss Dutchess
I can understand the difficulty with your recent diagnosis. It is emotional coming to terms with these things and wondering what if. It is perfectly okay to feel this way. I’m sorry to hear about the bullying too. ❤️
I feel like an early diagnosis may have helped more socially than anything else. And of course, emotional coping strategies. Because if you ask me, therapists are important and help with these kinds of things.
It is not so helpful that your family just expected for friends to magically happen to you. I don’t think that is true. It’s important to have common interests if you ask me. I guess that is just how I’ve done it.
I don’t know if having a specialist would have helped much with maths. My maths has always been shocking, but I did learn more effective ways of dealing with it as I got older. I tend to use formula calculators online. It really helps me a lot to understand how things work. They have diagrams and can explain the working. It is something that just wasn’t available when I grew up.
Also, I have experience dealing with learning anxiety now because I went back to university more recently after dropping out because of being assaulted. Being a language tutor helped me to understand learning anxiety as well. Once you get over the anxiety, it takes away some of the stress of doing something that you’re not comfortable with. Being a tutor really teaches you that it’s okay to make mistakes, it is just the process of learning. Also just learning how to study effectively helps. It’s wild that it isn’t really taught in schools. I had to learn from someone who was really good at testing.
It’s good to hear that you have some friends. And well done on putting yourself out there and talking to that person in the book store. ❤️
I guess for me, I moved a lot. So I was bullied a lot and I didn’t make many close friends, one or two per school was enough for me. By the way, most kids get bullied. It isn’t just you. So you are not alone.
I just went to the library, chess club and computer gaming clubs. There were nice kids there. Kids like me who didn’t want hassle or to be bothered by anyone else.
I didn’t really understand other kids because I was being abused at home so kid conversations seemed a bit meaningless at the time. The autism didn’t help either.
It was probably when I became a teenager that I started to make more friends because I went to parties.
Unfortunately, I was sexually assaulted by a friend in college. So I became a shut in for a while.
It took some time for me to learn to be around people again. I find what helped was being around a friend who was extroverted. They were always talking to everyone. They carried on most of the conversations. I didn’t have to say much if I didn’t want to. It was a bit alien to me at first. But I just got used to it and started to chime in more with conversations when I felt like it. Working with the people as a tutor and in a phone store helped talk to people too. Somehow I find it less stressful when you are in a position where people are expected to be kind and listen, because they want help from you. It is generally very polite and I like that style of communication.
Small talk might not seem important initially. It is deceptive, because you learn a lot about people through small talk. What they care about, their interests, their feelings and worries. It’s also really helpful because socially it tends to be that you build trust through small talk and then you have deeper conversations once you know each other.
I tend to find that most of my friends are also neurodivergent. It just seems to be easier for me to connect with them.
I’m guessing that you don’t have a sibling? I feel like pranks are something that you understand more if you have a sibling. It’s kind of a reciprocal thing. You’re supposed to take turns pranking each other. It’s a stupid silly game where you tease each other a bit. Supposed to be funny, like a physical form of joke.
My son just did his first prank today. Put dog kibble in his father’s shoe.
Take care and good luck with everything! ❤️
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