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August 28, 2018 at 8:35 am #223397PedroParticipant
Thanks Mark.
Yes, I am worried about sustaining myself, but right now I am doing OK with some online side hustles that supplement my unemployment checks very well right now. Just hope I can continue this. I am trying to work out as much as I can but it is a catch-22; sometimes I have lots of pain and soreness that lingers after a long workout. And I am admittedly very unmotivated to exercise as it is with her mental games and nasty words weighing me down.
I don’t want you or anyone else to think I am (actively) looking for a relationship. Just thinking ahead. This marriage is over and I feel very lonely and unloved. But as much as I would like to be with someone, I am not trying to make that happen.
I am looking to find volunteer opportunities. Don’t know what I want to do but there seems to be a lot out there.
Pickleball, huh? I’ll check it out.
August 27, 2018 at 6:50 pm #223313PedroParticipantHi Anita. It seems so hard to find that one person though. Lots of women (and maybe some guys?) have many possibilities of finding someone who finds them attractive. For me it is more like trying to find a needle in a haystack or a unicorn. How can one find someone who sees that they have a good heart?
August 23, 2018 at 10:51 am #222763PedroParticipantNah, all I want, and all I ever wanted, was someone to love and someone who loves me. It just seems so far out of the realm of possibility. I haven’t even had a hug or kiss for almost 10 years now…….
August 23, 2018 at 9:19 am #222729PedroParticipantHi Anita. Yes, I know that there aren’t formal rituals, but there are still cues men and women take from each other in the buildup to coupling (be it short- or long-term). I really don’t know how to participate in this, how to “access” women, so to speak. I have no problem making friends with women, talking with them, but I don’t seem to know how to take this to another level.
August 22, 2018 at 3:12 pm #222611PedroParticipantYou asked, “But that’s seemingly not enough, is it?” – You only need one woman for whom it is enough, and since it is enough for me, there has to be another woman out there for whom it is enough as well. After all, you don’t look hideous, you wrote that yourself.
Well, I would like to be able to know that there was someone else out there. But I have never had a relationship aside from my marriage, and that was a horrible choice I made because I was getting older and had never been with anyone. So I kinda panicked and married someone I wasn’t compatible with. But I know little about the dating/mating rituals and really don’t know what to do regarding romantic/sexual interactions with women. I also have problems picking up if a woman is interested in me or not. Since the few times I expressed interest in someone I was pretty cruelly rejected, I don’t want to do that anymore.
I don’t understand why you would never get a chance to see your children if you didn’t live with your wife?
Because she is a vindictive, manipulative person who would keep them away to be spiteful. Now that only one is left in the house my fears aren’t as serious and I will be willing to break up after he is in college/grown. But that’s why I stayed, for the kids.
Nor do I understand feeling “slightly ill with dread when (you) hear her coming up the stairs” being a preferable way to live than away from her?
Well, it isn’t preferable – I put up with this so I could see and raise my kids.
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August 21, 2018 at 2:15 pm #222425PedroParticipantHi Anita. No, I did not send a photo, especially since I don’t really like to be photographed, therefore there weren’t any I had on hand..I don’t think I am hideous, at least I wasn’t as a younger man. But I was also not particularly handsome or well-built, and now that I’m older and much more beat up, I don’t know how any woman could find me attractive. I dress very well, keep my hair and beard trim, and always smell great. But that’s seemingly not enough, is it?
As for the kids, I agree that it would be better for them to live in a calmer home…..but that would have meant me being alone and never getting a chance to see them, much less raise them. And I could not live with myself if I had allowed that to happen.
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August 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm #222267PedroParticipantHi Anita. I appreciate your responses.
And now, what? What to do when you realize so much has been wasted? My answer: you make a little improvement and live the life that is available for you. Here is a little improvement that you can make in your life, to no longer be afraid (“I actually get slightly ill with dread when I hear her coming up the stairs”). If you live separately from her, you will no longer hear her coming up the stair. Wouldn’t that be a relief?
Yes, it would most definitely be a relief if I were not in the same house with her. That will happen, but I don’t want to leave until the kids are grown and out of the house.
By living the life that is available for you I mean, making your life better a bit at a time, so you live separately from her, no longer afraid of the next bad interaction with her. Another improvement: you can now meet women online. I will explain: before, when you were young and single, you didn’t have this option. But now you do. Looking at your post, you read interesting to me, your intelligence is evident and your honesty is attractive. So you can communicate well online. You are no longer limited to your looks, which you described as unattractive. You have the written word.
True, but women still value looks. When I was younger I got into this long-distance “relationship” where I was living in NYC and ended up talking to a woman on the phone. She had called my roommate and he gave the phone to me so we could meet. We hit it off immediately and talked intensely for hours. Long story short, after a couple weeks of deep, intimate daily conversations, I flew to her town in the Midwest to meet her. She didn’t like me at all – this is after she swore she wouldn’t care about my looks and after I warned her I was not attractive. No matter how much someone might like someone, looks are important. This is why I fear being alone forever.
So you communicate with women online, on a dating site, but you do it right, not getting too invested, keeping it honest, not expecting much, but you persist. You get to know women this way and then you arrange a meeting with one, to get to know her face to face, in a coffee place, let’s say (any one of you can leave at any time).
I am looking forward to this, yes, but as I said, I still fear the bad outcome.
You wrote that you don’t like to share about yourself, to open up, well right here is your opportunity to do a little of that. No need to share a whole lot, just a bit, but keep it honest. If you do, I will respond to you empathetically and respectfully, no danger to you communicating here with me.
Thanks – I don’t mean I am totally shut off to others, no way. Just that on a daily basis I really don’t talk much about what I’m thinking or what’s happening……I just don’t know why there would be any interest. But here I am more open because I am asking folks such as you for advice about my problems. So it makes sense for me to want to say at least a little about myself!
Thanks, Anita.
August 20, 2018 at 4:48 pm #222265PedroParticipantHi George. Thank you so much for responding. Let me discuss and respond:
No, happiness/success is not gauged by love or sex, it’s about how much you appreciate and love yourself. But prior to this, you have a lot of works to do, you’ll need look for a full time counselor on daily or weekly basic to be able to give your guidance on how to function your life.
Yes, I get this, but it is hard to appreciate and love myself if I have no human love or affection. I have been alone most of my life and it is very painful not to be able to share your life with another person. I have a counselor and have been going for a while now, but frankly I haven’t really fixed anything. Going to counseling has kept me from killing myself, but I haven’t made any progress beyond that.
Trust yourself, you ain’t a failure, you’re just unlucky at this phase of your life where you keep your career on and off. You are still doing great. Life is all about sometimes you fail, sometimes you win. The fact that you have to admit that everyone is unique, your wife has higher money making abilities and it doesn’t mean you are either. All you have to do your best to look for another job, and from there, you strive again.
Yes, I have been looking for months now and have had a few interviews – and have been turned down for each job. I fear I will never find work again at my age.
Reading from what you described that your wife has threaten to divorce it seems like you’re on the verge of the marriage now. Things gonna be messy at this point of time. As of now, could you discuss with your wife, amiably, that you would want to keep this marriage going and seek advice from couple therapist and do some adjustment to make the marriage working?
Unfortunately, this relationship is irretrievably broken. She wants a divorce now – I want one when our youngest is out of the house. There is absolutely no chance of making this marriage work. She wants out, and if she wants out I want out.
August 19, 2018 at 7:43 pm #222137PedroParticipantAny advice?
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