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Cali ChicaParticipant
Dear Anita,
I am concerned about the smoke you are around. You are in the NW united States I assume? Is there a location for you to go to that is further removed from breathing these particles? I do hope it clears up soon, I am here to chat about it if needed of course.
Thank you, the interview went well. Not well because it was anything spectacular, but well because I am more “well.”
I discovered that most of my heart and brain were occupied by my mother, and the mother voice. She took most of the real estate in me. She of course “owned me” as an extension of her, we were one unit in her eyes.
So all of this real estate was occupied by her, by negativity, by her voice, by fear, by plain blockage.
How much depth there is for the human being to feel, to love, to have joy – the great depths of the mind and soul. It is possible, if there is space. I would search for this space in my 20s, search for it, and it wasn’t in me, no this space was occupied by the mother, and thus I would search for it outside of me (one more reason to seek outward, plus all that we have already spoken about).
Of course this space does not miraculously appear in me – mother is gone, so bam, there’s open flow back. Of course not, but I do get glimpses of how SIMPLE, EASY, and FEARLESS moments in life can be if we can be truly immersed in it. If we can walk down the block and really just walk. If we can go to an interview, and simply speak about the job and observe. Not have the majority of our self stuck to other ideas/notions that serve no purpose at that time.
That’s analogous to walking down the street with your eyes closed and wondering why the commute was so difficult and cumbersome. Having your eyes closed by all the weight of your mother’s abuse and issues.
so then why not just open your eyes and walk? well first that was foreign, and second it felt impossible. too easy! too simple! life must be more complex and complicated! it must be painstaking! if it isn’t it’s not living.
now i see that these mothers, their life is one big blob of nothingness. they attempt to fill their void with hysteria, drama, and torture. they attempt to create meaning by taking real estate in their innocent children, pushing their issues onto them, fixating on their daughters, on others.
but no, this space does not belong to them. we are born on this earth of our own skin, blood, hearts, and brains. this space, our life, belong only to us.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
good morning. I am great. I have been deep in the “meat” of this next chapter of healing. Thinking, observing, reading, writing, questioning my innate thought or worry, channeling safety.
I have been deep in it – and it is a good feeling. I was just thinking of you, I will write you my detailed progress and feelings soon as I am heading to a job interview! I hope you are well this week so far!
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
yes it is exactly like the impulsive child. Unlike your example, I never had a mother to calm me, instead she exacerbated the impulsivity and distress. She not only added to it she promoted it. Thus, I never learned to calm that inner child that is impulsive. Thus, now I can mother this impulsive inner child. Remind her to walk not run, to take it slow. That nothing good comes from rushing and over doing. Sink in. And savor
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
This weekend, and now today, I recognized the beauty of practice
I was having trouble reminding myself that progress is possible. Many times in my life I showed progress. From hating running to (tolerating) it. From starting as as beginning dancer, to becoming advanced – and going with my passion for it. The list goes on, self discipline is possible. I have proven to myself many times.
However, this time around, with this large task of healing – it feels of course much different. I lost my confidence and faith that self disipline and confidence can lead to life altering progress.
This weekend my practice was simple, I focused on what was. My husband and I were in NYC looking around at things, and thats what I did. I didn’t do that and also simultaneously help a friend through a mini crisis. I didn’t do that and also support my sister through her doubts. I didn’t do that and also plan my next weekend. No. I just did what was in front of me.
How new for me. And I woke up today feeling that much more centered. A practice of being more centered yesterday, does allow for a more centered today. It sure does. All it takes is practice.
I have faith in practice. I have faith that if I deliberately attend to my husband and I – this practice will continue to show me progress.
It will be hard when more distractions present themselves, but with practice, my skill will be more innate and even second nature.
To see the benefit of something the next day, will remind me the importance of this self-discipline. It is not unlike practicing a good diet, or exercise regimen – this is a diet for my brain, that of removing unecessary toxins and distractions in the mind and the body!
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
makes sense. I am glad to have insight and awareness. Today was a day I felt sad. I hadn’t felt sad in months probably prior to when I stopped speaking to my mother. I felt sad that this exists and that mothers can do this. I felt angry that it is difficult for others to understand without seeing physical scars, in fact not others, that I sometimes don’t remind myself since I am so functional. I felt annoyed that some people will think it’s out of anger or impulse to feel this way but they have no clue. It is exhausting. It is a lot. It sure is.
Cali ChicaParticipantWhy do you think parental dysfunction is so common? To me it’s because so much of the trauma is not processed and passed down to generations and projected further and further. Lack of awareness lack of coping lack of processing. Distress projected.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
yet so many children (and then future adults) come out okay. They don’t suffer in the way we do. Their mothers didn’t have to be “exceptional” they just had to not be selfish and disturbed. Right? Sometimes I wonder.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Happy Friday, I want to share something I wrote.
Dear Child,
A Narcissitic(N) mother’s emotional abuse.
Insidious is the perfect word. Disguised as love.
This is the most harmful aspect of it. As children in nature we have a basic human instinct to be bonded to our mother. This is without thought. For an NMom to take advantage of this innocent dedication and dependency – there could be “almost(not comparing)” no greater abuse.
Mother’s know that no one depends on them more than their own children. A young infant can not truly LIVE without his mother – without her nourishment. Humans and the wild.
So Imagine a baby Lion getting kicked daily after his feedings from the lioness. Allowed feedings on some days but not others, with no consistency. Sometimes finding that the lioness is nowhere to be found, and sometimes finding she is smothering.
Odd to think of it this way. And unlikely in nature. Yet this is what our mothers did. They took advantage of the innocent dependence of a young child and manipulated it to Feed their fragile narcissistic soul. A soul that can not be fed. And thus it was a bottomless pit. An endless cycle.
Moreover this abuse was disguised as love. Yes. And sure there were time where the mother did show “love and concern.” Motherly traits. But all to throw it back in our face years later. So by definition that is not true love. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. So If any positive behavior did emanate from her, it’s because it just so happened to.
She disguised her behavior as being good for us, for being caring, for being an exceptional mother. For being something special. They always do see themselves as elite and special, but also battered and hopeless.
There is nothing quite like emotional insidious abuse from a mother. No matter what the language, culture, socioeconomic status. The mother – child relationship is the same. No child should have to grow up with fear and inconsistency, the burden to appease their mother, with conditional love.
Unconditional love from a mother is not a prize. It is the standard.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
- dangerous to be me/us= safety to be them
- escape danger (us) and seek safety (them)
This is so powerful it shakes my surroundings. To overcome this will be victorious.
It is safe to be me, it is the safest place in the world. Me, myself, and my husband.
And I will live this…in time.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Your last post after our mutual feeling of overwhelming-ness is pivotal. It is it’s own chapter in the book, highlighted and bookmarked. In fact it is it’s OWN book.
I want to take my time to go through it slowly as it is a difficult concept to process given the ridiculous ingrained teaching.
You wrote:
“and you value and invest in strangers whom you don’t know much about (and it doesn’t matter, according to this ridiculous teaching who they are, as long as they are …. not us)”
=value others, no matter who they are, as long as they are someone else.
So you’re walking down the shopping mall holding your mothers hand in awe of everyone that walks by – seeing wow look how nice he is, like how pretty she is, look how happy he is, look how lucky he is, look!
may sound innocent enough. But no. Look at them. Look at what they have – and as above also assuming things about others that are likely entirely untrue! Looking back at my life – most of these people were not what they seemed, as happy as they seemed, or content/“lucky”.
It was me glamourizing at every juncture. Just because they were someone else. Automatically. I’m going to Spain. Oh great. Oh WOW she’s going to France and her husband is taking her isn’t that INCREDIBLE! Yes, but aren’t you going to Europe too? Oh ya I am… entirely blind to this.
Now this concept was not hard to conceptualize as it is the first layer. And goes along well with the Disney world (TDW) example.
The next layer, which we uncovered over the last few days is much more complex. The value in others over ones self (including people that you include with yourself). It is multifactorial and so beyond the concept of “wanting what you can’t have” or grass is always greener.
1) I am used to attending to danger. Danger does not lie within me and my most loved ones. No. But Danger is pausing too long to focus on me. Because I must attend to danger. It in fact is dangerous to just stick to me and us, thus I have to focus on them. In fact the Danger is not being one of them.
2) safety does not lie within me(us) it lies within them. So once again:
dangerous to be me/us = safety to be them.
Ill let this one sink in.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantGood Morning Anita,
Yesterday August 7, I moved on to the next level of my healing.
Do you want to know why? Because I recognized this false core belief (with the assistance of you) and let it sink in.
Later that day, I felt true sadness. It was momentary like a butterfly, it fluttered by and it passed. I reached out to grab it, but it was gone – just like that – with no sign that it ever came. And that’s just it. Feeling true fleeting emotions is a part of progress. I attempted to hold on to that feeling of something real, for longer than a millisecond, but it was not meant to last. No it was not. But it did create micro-healing, and perhaps create one micro-neuropathway that is new – and my own.
Yesterday was overwhelming yes, so much so that it was for YOU. This shows me that I was on the brink of a true understanding. And when I let it all sink in, it happened. I saw it.
It is incredible to see yourself wake up and feel ever so slightly different. Whether it lasts the whole day, or even more than the hour is no longer important to me – it is that it is POSSIBLE. It is that resilience and growth is there. It is that newness is budding.
I will re-read your post above and go through it in detail and comment more shortly.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
What has occurred to me now, after our thorough conversation about the topic above, and my subsequent clear outline of the learning points above is this:
i can not process and think clearly when I am distracted by others. I must MUST give my self permission to focus on ME (and my husband) and NO ONE ELSE.
Tell me Anita, isn’t this true. And I must allow it – I must give myself permission.
Call it whatever I may – cocoon living – protecting my self. It is not isolation – but I want to go back to it – I want to focus just on us. I did for a while there, but I stopped giving myself permission – but I want to – I need to…
IT IS THE ONE MAIN OBSTRUCTION TO MY PEACE AND CLARITY!
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Yes creating clarity for myself is important for things to sink and savor. I present material/ideas/learning in a way that it can be absorbed for ME.
With all of the thoughts and rush of ideas, when I point things out in this way – they can stick. I also am going back and reviewing a lot of what we wrote about – even back from the first posts! I know now that there are many things that stick out (which I will post about another day). From now on, on this path, if I outline things clearly – they can be apart of the handbook of my re- learning which is co-authored by both of us.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I will let the following sink and savor. Thank you for enlightening my understanding of this:
- Slowly, gradually, you will challenge this false core belief that safety is with strangers out there and abandon it.
- there was no safety in the family unit with her. So it was tempting to believe indeed that safety is someplace, over there, with those people.
Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Amazing, this is exactly correct. I was having trouble processing this – and as you outlined, it is two fold. There is not just one danger, the danger that is omnipresent, there are other dangers as well.
You wrote about two reasons operating together:
1) “your husband, unlike your mother, is calm, reliable, dependable, sane, consistently on your side, safe.” yes this is why I do not instinctively attend to him as I would a “dangerous” unstable being like my mother. Yes all animals do focus on danger.
It is interesting that now my focus is on others, when danger isn’t even present -and that is why part 2 of your explanation is key – this is the part that missing in my understanding yesterday.
2) You chase their approval and inclusion of you because safety is in being one of them.
Yes safety is being THEM. THEM does not include myself, my husband, sister, people closest to me. No, it includes others. In regards to my husband – I think this is what I was trying to get at when I said he is an extension of me. Because there is US and there is THEM.
Yes Anita, when I prioritize JUST him and I. I feel fear. I feel that something is missing, that I should be doing more. This is because I feel that SAFETY is being them – not just US (husband and I). SAFETY is focusing on THEM (not just us).
I think with time, when I actively and deliberately make efforts to not compulsively seek THEM out, I will learn that SAFETY is HERE. In fact is ONLY truly HERE (with us – him and I). Do you agree?
This is something I know in my mind as the correct theory – but not in my neuropathways – not in my innate state.
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