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  • in reply to: Brand new to ALL of this! #44348
    babylaughter
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    Sarah, if work is all that’s keeping you busy, it’s time to start some new hobbies! Pick something fun and enjoy! You will find friends in no time when exploring the hobby! Also, call your friends and family for support. Take time to grieve the ending of your old life and celebrate the beginning of a new life.

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #44000
    babylaughter
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    Thanks, Pat. You’re work as a nurse, wife, individual and mother are also very valuable!!!! 🙂

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #43999
    babylaughter
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    http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/namaskar-namaste-meaning

    Sarah’s post must have been private. I don’t see it here but see it in my email. I didn’t know you could post privately.

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #43899
    babylaughter
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    Matt,
    Please forgive me if I was overly defensive in my last posting. I may have mistaken your flowery language as sarcasm and was a bit offended. For whatever reason, I thought that “tender heart” was written with disdain and, it seems, took your words more personally than they were meant to be taken. Perhaps old wounds have not completely healed (?!).

    Perhaps your question about what I was looking for was genuine. No, I was not looking for validation. I was looking for a way to balance both being able to reach this student and protecting the other students. I thought Sarah’s posted reply was very insightful. I can use this student’s need to be all-important to teach this student while also finding ways to increase the self-confidence of the other students. I look forward to meeting this new challenge and hope that somewhere out there you too are relishing a deeply fulfilling challenge in your life.

    When one seeks one thing, sometimes one receives more than what he or she is seeking. In this case, I was lucky to receive a gentle reminder from you.

    Before becoming a teacher, I spent years in other positions: aide, sub, tutor, behaviorist, etc. In those positions, I always found myself wishing that someone else would be more open-hearted to the children. As a student teacher/ pre-service teacher, I recall watching one particular teacher yell at a student until he cried for something he could not control biologically. Because I wanted to pass my internship, I kept my mouth shut and did not bring to anyone’s attention how cruel I thought this was. I do not know if it would have done any good if I did bring it to anyone’s attention… In the same way, I do not wish to punish my student for what is in his/ her biology; as you pointed out in your snake analogy.

    Ornate language or not, I do appreciate your reminder to remain empathetic. One of the aides complains to me all of the time about this child, to the point that I am starting to feel badly. What good is it to have good aides and teachers if they, as you pointed out, feel so much disgust towards you? A person should be able to be loved separately from their past actions. In any case, who am I to determine if a child will become a sociopath or not? While I am careful what to entrust a person, I do think that it will be a lot more difficult to work with this child if all of my aides continue to feel so disgusted with him/ her. I hope I can bring to light the more positive aspects of this person’s personality so that he/ she is not completely alone in the world while also hoping to teach the other students a healthy sense of self-confidence and discrimination, as they are so innocent for teenagers that even if this student were not their peer, I would worry about them getting into the car of a stranger. The class I have this year is so innocent and unsuspecting, this particular child really stands out in contrast to her classmates. This child’s charisma often makes him/ her a natural leader. I hope that he/ she will be able and willing to lead the others to do good things one day; however doubtful this may seem at times. As you pointed out, he/ she is just a child. I cannot predict the future and assume that he/ she will become a sociopath, as narcissistic as this person may seem at times. If somewhere down the road, he or she does become a sociopath, I also cannot take responsibility for it either. I can only do my best to impart to him/ her what I can. Perhaps you are on to something, Matt. There’s too much attachment in the feeling of “disgust.” With attachment, is suffering.

    I’m not quite sure what you mean by “healer by trade”, as a healer comes in so many forms, but perhaps you have a reason for being so vague. That reason is probably my unfriendliness towards your last post… Or perhaps you just like being mysterious! In any case, I, like many people, likely attach too much identity to one’s profession. Whatever your true profession may be, your desire to help others is appreciated!

    I also have no desire to engage in a contest of wills or credence with you and apologize if I made it seem so in my last posting. I surprise myself sometimes. Please accept my sincere apology and my deep gratitude for your reminder to keep an open mind and heart. Somewhere out there, you have affected the life of a child for the better by reminding his/ her teacher to remain open-minded and open-hearted!

    Namaskar!

    🙂 A Buddha Doodle for you: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/32440059788681479/

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #43868
    babylaughter
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    Matt,
    I fail to understand your latest message. In this message, you assume that I believe the child’s actions are random and I operate not to teach this child but from a standpoint in which I give up on this child due to disgust. Had I given up on this child, would I be thinking about this child so much that I am posting about this person online? I post because I worry about how to work with this child who I assign aides yet the aides are antagonistic towards this person. Sarah’s brilliant posted suggestion was to use the child’s narcissism to teach him/ her. I have implemented this and it works wonders. I got a newspaper column in the local paper about the student’s favorite topic for the student to write every month. I had the aides cover the mirrors which we began charging classroom money for usage, as the child tends to use it for hours at a time otherwise. However, none of this changes the fact that we must protect the other children. Due to this person’s charm, the others would give up everything for this person in a heartbeat. As a teacher who loves all of her children, why would I want the others to give up everything for this one person when he/ she will only reject them after he/she has what he/ she wants? I only wish public schools had more theatrical arts as pathological liars with a need for attention such as this student would excel in this arena.

    In some ways, you are right, Matt. I have given up in some arenas. As a teacher, I have to protect myself from burnout by picking my battles. I change only what I can. I can teach this person academics and I can attempt to teach other things, but trust, once lost must be regained.

    I am allowed to feel disgust. The famous sociopath Charles Manson was abused and neglected as a child. Do you suggest I not feel disgust for his crimes? Yes, we created these people. However, even if such people confide in you, you have to still take it with a grain of salt. Just because they want to be close to you does not mean you should entrust everything to them. I once had a husband who was raised in an abusive environment and later became abusive. After I left, he apologized, but did that stop from him abusing his new wife? It did not. As much as I felt sorry for him, I knew better than to be close to him. Because of her lack of self-protection, lack of disgust and her willingness to stay with him, would you say this new wife is more humane? I would think that she is less humane to expose her children to such cruelty.

    I can only do so much for this child. I try to work with this child myself more since the aides are antagonistic towards this person. However, I have to remember to pick my battles lest I should burn out. And yes, I do feel disgust when this person manipulates my other kids. They are also my kids after all.
    I am sure that somewhere in this student’s history is something else I would feel disgust towards which caused this person to be created to hurt others. I am not his/ her parent. I cannot provide this “food” of which you speak. I have my own life and do not wish to burnout. Most people in my profession burnout within the first three to five years when they tackle things they are powerless to change. I do not wish to join their ranks. I must have limits.

    Who’s to blame? Humanity or lack thereof. One can love and be empathetic, but one must protect those they love, including themselves. I have had the mentality of if I just showed so and so enough kindness, he or she would change in the past, but it just has not worked for me. I don’t just mean with my ex either. I have tried it with others and it does not work. Unfortunately, if one has the genetic disposition and is not shown love and kindness in the early years, a less than whole person is created. If you know a secret in which you can get it work, please share.

    Out of curiosity, Matt, what is your profession?

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #43835
    babylaughter
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    Matt,
    Thanks for your reminder to be empathetic. When the student needs empathy, I am careful to pair the student with aides who do not hate the student yet. It is sad, but the student’s actions have deemed him/ her as less than popular with the adults, making my job to teach difficult at times. I myself, cannot trust this child but must find ways to teach the student, for how can one trust someone with loyalties to no one but oneself?

    Namaste

    in reply to: Sociopath/ Narcissist at Work #43834
    babylaughter
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    Thanks for understanding, Pat. Yes, the student is receiving counseling and anger management services at school.

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