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March 21, 2018 at 7:10 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198581Jenny LynnParticipant
I agree to the first post. There really isnt any getting around it.
And yes haha. But I dont want to harp on him too much . I just realize so much now that I didnt before about how he may have felt. It is funny that was how this all started. Almost 200 shares later…. In my own truth, talking to you because no one will see this…there is a part of me that CRAVES the feeling I felt when I was with John. Being truthful I don’t really get to talk about him with people in my real life anymore ya kno…but inside I feel that. No persistently but I think him, and I think that aura I felt when I was with him. Its almost euphoric.
Sometimes I cant decipher if its him or the feeling….
Also the last post isnt a response I was typing it almost as a triple post. lol
- This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by Jenny Lynn.
March 21, 2018 at 7:05 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198579Jenny LynnParticipantI like to feel like everything happens for a reason.
Right now this is a lesson learned but hey..maybe if I hadn’t been with him something worse could have happened to me.
I don’t know if that makes sense… At this particular moment 2 weeks in basically I see it like IS THIS WHAT I NEEDED TO MATURE MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT A RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE?
I honestly dont feel like I could speak on John they way I do or my changes of how a relationship should go; without this.
I had no limits, really.
But when time gets further sometimes I look at the things that may have happened or not went my way and think like hey this could have been worse. Butterfly effect type of things. One thing doesnt change and everything stay the same.
This one time I got a speeding ticket and Glen said that he had a feeling I might get a ticket. Just a twinge random feeling but he didnt tell me. I said WHY I would have slowed down? lol He said well what if something worse would have happened? I was like dang thats true. Maybe I passed up a possible wreck in the midst of driving fast or something. I am REALLY not a optimist Anita lol but for some reason that way of thinking makes sense to me.
Maybe if I hadnt been with Glen I could have ended up with someone worse, someone who really took it to another level and with me not having that shield of boundaries I WOULD have most likely let it in to “let the love in” I may have married this person, had kids with this person. All for lack of not knowing any better because I really thought I was ok with everything that happened here.
My weight is another example. I had this epiphany about a month ago. I hold my weight like the biggest downfall/set back of my life. But WHAT IF it had to happen this way. I am from a town of people who statistically are addicts and baby makers who get checks and food stamps. I am from am very small town of a little over 1,000 or so people. We have the highest opioid addiction rate in the county. My mom was in that crap and she got out, me and my brother got out (Me and My brother are statistically anomalies by far). But most people I know that was in that environment like me and him are still there,are on drugs, on their third kid, doing nothing with there life. So my point is; that if I had been smaller, I still would have had the family issues I had either way. But how would I have acted out having confidence if that makes sense. If I didnt put my thoughts into food, and put it into some boy in HS and got stuck there. Instead I realized that there wasnt anything there for me and I left.
So maybe just maybe this is the way all this was supposed to go …
March 21, 2018 at 6:47 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198571Jenny LynnParticipantSide bit: Yeah you are mostly in the right ball game with the comparison I make to me and Glen and our pressuring our partners for commitment.
Except I did get commitment from John I was in a committed relationship, I had that with him. & He chose it on his own; he didn’t want to for a few months (we casually dated from OCT-MARCH ’15/’16 off and on.. over time from MARCH-JUNE we talked about committed relationship) But he did in the end choose me..I just kept pushing, and picky, and feeling like he needed to do more now to show this milestone of us being BF/GF if that makes sense..even tho everything between me and him was fine…so f**king ridiculous thinking about it now
- This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by Jenny Lynn.
March 21, 2018 at 6:39 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198569Jenny LynnParticipantYeah all that makes sense. I agree.
That last paragraph I like a lot. Basically your saying that everyone is a little messed up but in the end how reasonable is the person in viewing it like you will spend the rest of your life in the space of that someone’s imperfection. IE good out weighing bad. No one is perfect, but I was tolerating imperfections that cost me in the end.
Maybe if I had drawn a line a long time ago in these situations where I gave in it would have provoked a conflict that would have provoked a change that HEY YOU DONT RUN MY LIFE or ended it sooner. Whether it was me telling him I wasnt ready to be in a relationship, or live together, or I needed some space, or that I still wanted to be friends with Leo. If I had said these things sooner I may have seen how he acts when he doesn’t get his way or when he feels wronged (even when not because they are my choices). Then; I would have still had enough foot hold in MY LIFE unconsumed with him to see the wrong in the reaction I may have gotten.
I felt like at the time it was what I wanted. Overtime something did feel a little off..the appreciation..admiration I usually got (in past relationships) kind of made me withdraw from him at times.
March 21, 2018 at 5:50 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198563Jenny LynnParticipantYes I will definitely learn from what has happened and from what I allow another person to let me feel and affect my mind, life, and choices.
Every optimist would say it will never happen again. I would like to say that too.
But I know that once I prioritize myself I wont exude the energy (I have in past) to draw people like that to me.
People CAN only do what YOU ALLOW them to. I just have to remember that.
March 21, 2018 at 5:46 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198561Jenny LynnParticipantIt isn’t that I wasn’t ready for commitment with Glen it was that the pressures I felt from him in the flow of a relationship just happened fast for me, but that’s how I interpret John may have felt. So for me to miss a good thing just because things were moving a little quick made me hypocritcal…I chose the latter smh
Yeah your right, they aren’t the same but maybe he filled that void of what I THOUGHT I needed/wanted from John. (Hindsight 20/20) I’ve felt in thoughts like John really did give me everything I needed I just constantly pressured him for more for some reason (he still cared about me but I can see it made him have resentments which lead to the break up that day). My mindset has changed on a lot of things I used to feel about dating and the relationship stages OVERALL.
I didn’t know him well enough..this is true. I feel like it felt correct at first because he filled that “I wasnt getting this from John-ness” almost feeling like my relationship carried over.. he may have done the things John didnt but as time went on it just seems like we didnt see things the same way and our communication was poor so it cause conflict. He wasn’t John…BUT he was Glen…and after time went by I appreciated him for who he was. There was a time when the good out weighed the bad. I dont know really know what happened there….
Yeah I understand what you said there about separating my thoughts of what I wish(ed) was happen(ed/ing) to what is ACTUALLY occur(ed/ing).
March 21, 2018 at 4:41 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198539Jenny LynnParticipantI am trying to be…I know that hindsight will be 20/20 and I will soon see everything for what it really was.
Gosh its just so frustrating to look back and see all you did for someone, what you gave up, what could have been/what else could have happened…
Like things with Leo (will always haunt me)..seems like I always choose the wrong guy when it comes to him. :/ I knew that if I cut communication with him again..ehhh…well lets just say I knew he wouldn’t let me do it a 3rd time smh. I just was so confident in how I felt at the time. Like I owed Glen a shot at my full and undivided attention…cuz thats what I wanted from John. It felt hypocritical almost…Sometimes I feel like I wanted someone to pick up where John & I had left off; whether it made sense or not logistically.
March 21, 2018 at 3:51 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198533Jenny LynnParticipantI told him, he said 31st. Simple enough *exhales*
March 20, 2018 at 12:50 pm in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198443Jenny LynnParticipantGosh that last sentence hit me….I keep re reading it.
He chooses anger over me EVERY TIME…:(
March 20, 2018 at 12:46 pm in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198441Jenny LynnParticipantI agree. Most people take bad things and hope that someone can tell them otherwise. Because of the natural human want to avoid bad things we will inevitable take almost anything someone will give us to derationalize something bad someone has done…which is why we believe liars. Most people want to see the good in those they care about.
HIM? ..he makes these assumptions… like you’re mad the sky is red…you keep talking about it being red and how annoyed you are by it. I am here with the facts! & HAVE NO FEAR babe cuz guess what its BLUE not RED and I have 10 ways to show/tell/prove to you. So he can not be upset right? But he actually has no intention of letting someone remove his facade of anger or actually listening with the idea that what that person is saying is true. He just wants to be mad and have the world apologize for the red sky…He doesn’t care. he just wants to feel how he is feeling because sadly sometimes I think he would almost rather be right and justified than happy…
Something that happened during the conflict that day made him metaphorically pick up a piece of *She wronged me/I didn’t like that* and that’s what he is holding onto.
It could be overall me saying it was over…(provoked) after him calling me names.
As irrational as me and you both know the above statement to be…(being mad that the person you love has self respect and ended the relationship over being BLATANTLY disrespected)….he attached on something that is fueling his reaction(s).
Because he has found a reason to be upset it over takes my ACTUAL tangible reason to be upset. He can’t see the forest through the trees.
Your last statement was….wooooo…yeah. Gosh, It is crazy I can have so much confidence in the ideals I express about what I know he will do when he is angry cyclically I know it like the back of my hand. He chooses anger over me every time….
March 20, 2018 at 11:29 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198429Jenny LynnParticipantI truthfully do not know how he feels. I am really at a loss about it.
Me? I am visibly bothered by the situation; as someone should….Him I don’t know.
A part of me thinks he feels this is a competition or a joke or something. The idea that I am not reaching out to him may be what he interprets as a challenge. Like “Oh shes not even going to act like she wants to talk about what happened (She usually does) she broke up with me so she should take action or show me she cares” something to that effect.
Maybe he wants me to make him feel invited in, to give him a opening. (He has said that before, thats how he would want me to address him in times of conflict. I.E. Figuratively leave the door open so to speak, I dont know how much that makes sense) To go in blindly not knowing if I will reject him probably deters him too. But if I was showing a little more attachment I dont know if that would make a difference or not…doesn’t really matter to me tho.
If I don’t mean enough to him for him to even risk getting his feelings hurt by me saying no. OR he could see it like he will lose the power if he submits to me. Like if he wants to continue he would have to inquire about what I need for him to come back. He would put himself in the position to inevitably have to acknowledge the things he needs to change drastically.
Or as well (I have to keep in mind) he literally could just not care. Maybe he had enough too. But to me, that version of him would be a little less concerned with me OVERALL if that was the case.
Stubborn people have the weirdest way they logic things in their mind. My best friend does stuff like he does to her BF and to hear her say the other sided version (I never get) of someones significant other who purposely does things that distress their partner is purely crap they just logic in their head by “They can do what they want” “They have least to lose” People like this love to say they dont need anybody, they can do with out without you, they like to have you around but dont care really either. She describes it to me like she does it just because she can. Ex.) Her BF called her all day asking her one time if she wanted to go out of town with him & she was irritated with him (or at least trying to convince herself of the reason she was). She wouldn’t answer the phone and when he text her she just said no over and over. But shes on the phone with me literally telling me she is going to come and he better call her right before he leaves so she can change her mind. I am like “why dont you just tell him?” She says “because I am stubborn and I like the chasing/begging stuff idk”. He ended up leaving without calling her one last time smh. She literally called me mad like “He should have called again” I was like dude your crazy. she was thinking about having him turn around and come back to get her….
So that was a random story but it just a pin on my insight in the the lack of compassion they feel when they are trying to prove some point or make themselves feel good at your expense.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by Jenny Lynn.
March 20, 2018 at 10:19 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198405Jenny LynnParticipantI am feeling a little anxious about it.
But hopefully it will just be simple and I’m over thinking it.
It will just be relief really, ya know.
March 20, 2018 at 9:37 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198385Jenny LynnParticipantI am the type of person who doesn’t poke the bear.
I don’t think he would do anything… But I also don’t put anything past anyone.
So in regards to just leaving I honestly feel like when we get into the late 20’s in the day of month. He would probably say something. If I just said I was leaving…I don’t know if that would provoke some crazy conflict between us.
It isn’t that I necessarily need to be cordial after all this. I just at this point want to avoid confrontations if possible. He doesn’t work set hours so he can come in at any moment. He will see me packing days leading up to.
So I feel its best to just tell him and pick his brain about it.
If he doesn’t like it…it doesn’t really matter.
It may not even be a whole conversation I may just say that “The leasing lady emailed about what day we want to leave. I am leaving the 31st so do you need to stay for the rest of the April part so I cant let her know she keeps asking?”
March 20, 2018 at 8:13 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198339Jenny LynnParticipantHe came to me days ago and ask “So you arent going to do anything that would keep me from getting my deposit back”
I looked at him crazy like “uhmm? no. why you ask that”
he said “just asking”
March 20, 2018 at 8:11 am in reply to: HELP Am I in a relationship but still in love with my ex? Cant figure it out! #198337Jenny LynnParticipantAlternate reactions:
-He tells me he is staying till the 14th. I would say well I don’t have the money to pay the rent again. I would like to hold on to the money I have.
-If that didn’t shift him my way. Then I will tell him that I am still going to leave regardless of when he decides to leave and I will come move my stuff on the 14th. But I won’t pay rent if I am not here. As well as I will need the money for the Electric if he stayed there.
-If he says probably something along the lines of where are you going? I will say my moms and leave it at that.
-If he genuinely tells me he NEEDS those 2 weeks I will try and work something out in my head like taking my neccessities and still leaving. Then come back 2 weeks later and move my furniture or something.
I know I dont owe him anything its crazy that my mind even feels.. I guess ..bad.. to be like I’m going to take the bed/couch/ whatever right out from under you regardless of your situation. I am unfortunately too nice to do that.
The most– if the conversation goes left and he tries to be petty I really have to lay down the law LIKEE I will pay this $180 of rent for 14 days. I AM LEAVING. TAKING ALL MY SHIT. CUTTING OFF THE ELECTRIC. and KISS MY BEHIND.
Because we are both on the lease I am obligated to pay it if he decided to stay for the 14 days outside of that I don’t have to do anything else. I don’t even have to tell him i am leaving the 31st I could just turn in the half of my rent and go on about my business.
So he really doesn’t have to much room to try and bully me.
Because if I leave the 31st there really isnt too much living that could go on in there without my stuff sooo
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