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December 17, 2018 at 4:36 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269579KkasxoParticipant
Shelby,
I think the key here is to let go of any thoughts of how he may be feeling or what he may be thinking – this is for YOU, never mind what he thinks/feels about the interaction! This is what YOU need so that you can move on with your life, he’s doing well at this as it is it seems!
Try to release some of that anxiety and let your rational mind kick in a little bit. Go back to your thoughts of what answers you may need from him..
There is no shame in being a human being who feels and deeply at that too! He was a major part of your life, do not be ashamed of showing a little bit of your heartbreak if need be throughout your interaction – this is only natural. Stay real and honest that’s the only way you can prevent the future what if’s. Otherwise you’ll only go back home and think ‘If only I was honest maybe it would’ve changed something!’. Tell him you are deeply disappointed and hurt by the fact that he couldn’t progress with you as you thought you were in it for the long run. Tell him its been difficult going from being partners in life to being strangers so quickly. Say anything that you may need to say. Ask him for answers. Ask him for some clarity – it is the least you deserve. Remember, you don’t have to beg or anything, just be firm and honest and keep in mind this is likely to be your last interaction so you need to get everything out on the table and affirm to yourself that once this is over, you can now release and breathe. You are now entitled to move forward with your life and live for you and you only. You are worthy. You are an incredible woman with so much to offer. This is your closure.
December 17, 2018 at 4:04 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269575KkasxoParticipantShelby,
The fact that he has agreed to meet so soon says a lot.. So that’s a good thing! I’m glad he didn’t make a big fuss about this!
Make a list of everything you want to get off your chest so you go into this meeting somewhat prepared rather than just overly emotional etc. Although I wouldn’t worry too much about this – this is the man you have been with for many years, he has seen your most vulnerable self and you shouldn’t be ashamed of this at all! It hurts, and he knows it hurts!
It is natural to feel anxious/scared, I promise you once it’s done you wont feel that bad! You just have to go into it with a plan. Everything you’ve wanted to say or any unanswered questions for the last three months, now’s the time!
Crossing my fingers for you and hoping to hear all about it later!
December 16, 2018 at 7:48 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269433KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Sorry for the late reply been a hectic day!
What did you say to him in your message?
I see you mentioned above that his sisters abroad at the moment and hence the assumption he might’ve gone too! It is a possibility so don’t worry about the lack of response from his end as of yet..
December 14, 2018 at 1:05 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269317KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I think your therapist is right, I completely agree with that and it is also how I view normal, functioning, adult relationships. It’s nice to see that a fully qualified psychologist agrees! I must not be crazy in the end then for expecting this..
I believe the issue with his family will forever persist. Whether with me or with another partner in the future, they have and always will be first for him unfortunately. I know for a fact that I won’t be able to continue that way because it’s not normal and it most definitely isn’t fair..
i do believe that your ex used the ‘lone wolf’ thing as an excuse. Let’s be real, nobody really wants to be alone! Not forever anyway. At the end of the day we all strive to eventually settle down and live a happy life with another human being, our partner. I do think that it was just easier covering up his family responsibilities with that excuse rather than admitting that he is unable to cut the ties a little and focus on his own life… perhaps it didn’t sit right with him or maybe that’s just how he was raised – like my ex. Whatever it was I suppose it doesn’t matter. He was unable or unwilling to focus on his own life.
I’m proud of you that you have taken a step to actually plan the contact – only a few days ago you were petrified and didn’t even know how to go about it! Whether you do it or not is another story, baby steps. And remember, you don’t wctuqlly have to contact him if you feel within you it isn’t the right thing to do. I’m only going off of experience. There’s only so many times you can be rejected by someone before you accept it and move on… again, from experience.
Realistically if he reiterates that you two aren’t together for whatever reasons then it isn’t really anything new you’ll be hearing, you’re already aware of this and have been dealing with it so it can’t get worse than it is.
Whatever you decide to do, I’m always here for a chat x
December 14, 2018 at 12:24 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269309KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Yes we seem to think similarly. I too thought it would’ve been better for him to try and get us back to normality prior to external people getting involved (bar his parents as he lives with them so I had no choice to see them) but he seems to think otherwise. I’ve realised that this is bringing up too many feelings associated with my trauma for me and I honestly don’t think I’ll be able to move forward with him because of this. His family always has and will always and forever come first. All of their behaviours, even the bad will forever be back by him and justified. And he is so concerned about their wellbeing that he’s forgetting to have any remorse for mine.. I guess that’s just how he was raised, not something that’s ever going to change and most definitely not something I am willing to stand for for the rest of my life.
You’re so lucky you’ve got your nieces and nephews close by! My God son lives abroad so I only get to see him a couple of times a year if that. I am beyond excited to see him over Christmas. In fact, I’m beyond excited to get away from my ex and everyone associated with him, as horrible as that sounds I feel I need the space right now to gather my strength and do what’s best for me. Put ME first god damn it! So much easier said than done.
I’m not sure what to suggest in terms of contact. I know you said you don’t want to feel any worse than you already do but yet the thoughts keep coming back to the idea anyway? I think maybe it’s that whole thing around closure that’s creeping up. Maybe you just need to hear it once more that things are really done? Or maybe you need answers from him? I do definitely believe that you will know best what to do and one of these evenings you’ll either contact him or say to yourself ‘no more, enough is enough’! It’s such a shitty and confusing place to be!
Drained doesn’t even fit this anymore!
December 14, 2018 at 2:35 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #269241KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Yeah she’s okay now thankfully! Aside from being poorly she’s enjoyed her week off school so she’s not complaining hehe!
I think trying to put myself in his shoes is difficult but also eye opening. I don’t think my sister would’ve ever gotten involved like that, in fact she didn’t! Throughout the entire situation around the summer she did not get involved, because my family are just a little bit like that. They will leave us to it to sort through our problems. Obviously if I say I need their input they’d be more than happy to stick up for me but other than that they’re quite respectful in the way that they will stay back and let us try come to a resolve on our own. Whereas his family jumped the gun very quickly and the attacks on me began! So I suppose in a way it is natural that I have been left with a sour taste towards them…
He has tried to arrange for us to ‘bump into one another’ several times now, each time I’ve avoided it. And quite frankly i’ll continue to avoid it for as long as necessary. I explained to him that seeing his mum and dad was inevitable as he lives with them, everyone else I have no interest in seeing or rebuilding any relationship with. They are not a part of my life, they are a part of his. Naturally, if we reconcile properly then yes I will see these people eventually at family do’s etc (although I reckon i’ll avoid those too as I have no interest in entertaining his family) but I will say hi and bye and be civil. Until that time comes I really do not need to go out of my way to bump into anyone.
I had a busy day yesterday, work, counselling and then I actually got myself to the gym with my friend and had a really good session! I feel EXTRA slim today haha!
I did mention the withdrawal to my therapist yesterday. I explained that it started as a defence mechanism but it seems to be affecting all parts of my life now. As soon as I see some kind of red flags I run as far away as I can and completely shut down – my friends and family are noticing this now too! I need to be able to deal with things differently! We did explore that further and will continue working through it in the new year!
How are you doing today?! Have you sorted all of your Christmas shopping yet?
December 12, 2018 at 6:17 am in reply to: I let men determine my self worth and I don't want to anymore #268951KkasxoParticipantDear Dom,
I understand how difficult this situation can be for you.
‘ I never start problems. I always apologize even if its not my fault. I don’t stand up for myself because I want so badly to be the chill girl every guy wants. I don’t ever say no even if I don’t want to have sex with my boyfriend because I want to fulfill his needs. I don’t talk about my emotions and I do everything I can to make it seems like am all put together and super “cool” and easy going. ‘
This part of your post got to me in particular. I want to remind you that IF there is a problem, whether initiated by yourself or another, there simply is a problem and one that needs to be dealt with. Apologising even when you believe you are not at fault and not standing up for yourself is not the way forward and quite frankly it is almost giving others the go ahead to walk all over you. Being in tact with your emotions, wants, needs and being fully aware of what you deserve has absolutely nothing to do with not being ‘super cool and easy going’. In fact, that makes you super cool and easy going! How cool is it to be confident woman who doesn’t take any sh**?! One who knows exactly what she stands for, what she wants and will not accept any less. Honestly, you can still be all of those things and not allow yourself to be a doormat to men or anyone else for that matter.
Please do not allow this to continue any longer. You are worth all the happiness in the world and you have to believe in that. Stand up for what you believe in, be open about your expectations and most importantly care for your own self enough to know what is good for you and what isn’t. Also, any man who allows this sort of behaviour to continue isn’t the man for you. Your partner should encourage you to open up when you may feel like completely shutting down, pull you up on apologising when you are not in the wrong and remind you that just because you feel a certain way about a certain situation does not mean that you are no longer ‘chill’ or ‘cool’. It means that you are human and completely entitled to feel whatever it is you feel.
A whole sea of water can’t even sink a ship unless it gets inside the ship. The same way you can’t be brought down unless you let people’s opinions inside.
Chin up girl! Hugs x
December 11, 2018 at 2:17 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268899KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Yes perhaps leave the talk for the time being. At the end of the day remind yourself that the option is always there IF you feel it’s suitable at the time, this may put your mind at ease a little.
I’ve unfortunately spent the whole evening in a&e with my little sister and just got home. She’s slightly better and we’ll be keeping her under close observation but I’m just drained now. Everything about my ex and his sister in particular right now is agitating me. He’s gone up to stay at her house tonight and that in itself has annoyed me – I realise that’s out of order or maybe even irrational but it’s the truth. And here I go again into complete withdrawal. Likelihood is I won’t speak to him for the majority of tomorrow because that is just what I do now when I start feeling a bit too much. It’s like a never ending cycle for me at the moment. It’s a shame because when things are good they are great and half of the time he’s not even done anything wrong but all of those doubts creep up on me and I end up withdrawing. Any tiny little detail at the moment can bring up doubts. When will I actually learn and accept that this just will not work?!
On a brighter note, I managed to get myself to the gym today for a quick 40 minute session! First time in two weeks or so! I must get myself back in the swing of things because I’m putting on some pounds and it’s not helping my already low self esteem! Especially knowing that I’ll put on weight over Christmas, that’s a given!
December 11, 2018 at 4:10 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268815KkasxoParticipantShelby,
What works for one may not work for another. I only suggested to have the last conversation because it seems as though maybe some kind of closure is needed to continue with the progress. It worked for me but then again obviously our circumstances around the break up are different – we needed to discuss the trauma otherwise I know I wouldn’t have been able to move forward. If you do believe it isn’t a good idea and not something that will work for you i.e it is likely to make you feel worse than you already do then yes it is best that you stay away from the idea.
I completely understand that cycle. Honestly, I really can relate as it is identical with my ex. Although this was not a reason for our breakup, this cycle became more apparent to me whilst broken up. I too think we have an amazing relationship until the ‘more’ kicks in. The only benefit of the doubt I can give him though is that he is only approaching his mid-twenties, so perhaps timing is the issue here? Although I do think that this isn’t a major factor, I do just believe he is a never ready type of man for whatever reason. Whether it’s his ambitious character to always achieve the best of the best or his responsibilities to his family, I don’t know, I don’t think things will change.
The only good thing is that with my promotion at work I am now in a position to be fully self-sufficient and be able to move forward with my life the way I want to on my own. Don’t get me wrong, of course I would’ve loved to have done it with him but if he is not ready then what can I do? At least I know I don’t have to depend on him.
As your ex is now out of the picture (whether you have accepted this yet or not is a different story) picture what you would like to achieve for YOU in the next year and set yourself the goals to get there. Where would you like to be in three years time? What can YOU do right now or in the coming months to bring you closer to that dream? The thought of a future, especially when it is completely blind is terrifying and so focusing on goals will make that transition just that little bit easier.
I am actually travelling abroad to see my family. We are heading out next week Friday and will arrive late evening on the Saturday and I will be coming back on boxing day. I am beyond excited to see everyone, slightly apprehensive as like I say it is my ex’s birthday on Christmas Eve and it’ll be strange not only to not see him but also to be in a completely different country from him on the day! But I feel like I have overcome so many milestones without him the past few months that what’s another milestone?! I spent my birthday without him, he will have to do the same.
I am also counting down until this terrible year ends. It has been by far the most difficult, heartbreaking, life changing year of my life. One I am sure I will never forget and hold close to my heart but I am so exhausted now and cant wait for it to finish already!
What are your plans for the Christmas break?
December 10, 2018 at 10:23 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268713KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I’m assuming his sister contacted you to say happy birthday? It is only natural to receive this sort of contact as you were big parts of one another’s lives, don’t let this put you off or delay you in your moving on process.
If you do contact him, so what, the back and forth, up and down is all part of this crazy messed up journey. Have you given it any more thought about that ‘final conversation’ we mentioned a few days ago?
My weekend was alright. I feel when it’s good it’s great, but it’s reality that’s killing me every time it kicks it – I don’t know if it’s something that will ever really fade in time or not… Can’t wait to get away for Christmas now! I feel like I need time away!
December 10, 2018 at 4:21 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268607KkasxoParticipantHi Shelby,
I’m glad you had a good time at your Christmas party! That is a start!
You’ve done brilliantly by not contacting him so far, give yourself a big pat on the back for that alone as that is an incredible achievement! You are a very strong individual, whether you see that at the moment or not.
The next few weeks are due to be extremely difficult with Christmas fast approaching etc. But I try to look at it as a new start as cliché as that sounds! New year, fresh start, new goals etc. Why don’t you try to do the same?
I remember you mentioned being unhappy at work, why not set yourself a goal to ensure that this time next year you are in a happy place at work?! Use your time in the oncoming year to do everything you possibly can to make that happen! Set yourself some goals and keep focused on those!
December 7, 2018 at 5:53 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268321KkasxoParticipantShelby,
I’m glad you had a good evening & felt relaxed after your facial, you deserve it! I take it you had a good birthday week?
I went out for a few drinks with a friend to catch up whilst my ex has gone to his work Christmas party (baring in mind I know everyone there because we originally met at work). I feel uncomfortable with the whole thing as everyone knew us as the couple for so many years and now they all know we’ve split up and everything is all complicated.
I’m having a difficult evening tonight.. hoping I can get to sleep sometime soon.
December 7, 2018 at 3:08 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268227KkasxoParticipantShelby,
Yeah we have spoken several times of these things, throughout our relationship and briefly recently but he is never able to give me a precise answer regarding timing – which on one hand I understand and on the other I need. He says ultimately a home, marriage and children is the aim of the game but in ‘good time’. He cannot specify what good time is. So we end up going into a ‘discussion’ as I then say well you are failing to compromise cause it’s all about your timing, what about my timing etc etc..
I know why I’m feeling more emotional, mother nature has reached me yet again! I’m in an awful lot of pain, hardly slept at all last night because of it, it is absolutely pouring where I am, I reversed into a lamppost this morning.. it couldn’t have gone any worse! But I am trying to just breathe through it!
How was your evening last night? How are you this morning?
Victoria – That’s very nice of the wife to invite you round for Christmas. Perhaps she isn’t fully clued up on the current circumstances around your relationship? I do agree with you though that it would cause more complications if you did go so it is probably best to give that a miss..
In regards to your ex, I know it may not seem like it to you but saying ‘it’s shit but I cant do anything about it’ is just a coping mechanism. It doesn’t mean he loves you any less, it doesn’t even mean he’s moving on, it just means he is trying to rationalise with himself and actually see the situation for what it is. It is shit, I love this woman, but there is nothing I can physically do at this moment to change her mind, she needs time on her own and I need to give her that! Trust me because those words have also come out of my mouth when my ex split up with me…
How many more years of uni do you have left? What is the plan for after? I understand you are going through some financial troubles at the moment – are there any friends you can rely on in times like these so you don’t have to turn to family?
December 6, 2018 at 1:11 pm in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268147KkasxoParticipantShelby,
The evening went okay I guess. I feel drained from entertaining all of the oh so important investors etc. I was having an alright evening until reality caught up with me and I saw one of my friends from college proposed to his girlfriend.. Again, extremely happy for them, I truly am. The way he did it too, he took on her daughter as his own (she’s about 4) and asked the little one for permission to marry her mummy and also bought her a necklace with a ring around it to make her feel involved. My heart melted and I just thought to myself what an amazing guy! Men like that really do exist.. why is it just not in my destiny to come across someone like that?! Why am I continuing to waste my time on someone who would never in a million years do anything similar for me?!
I’ve realised news like this is always bitter sweet for me now.
Im glad your enjoying your evening, I’m going to grab an alcoholic drink too and just relax! Or try to anyway… life is just a little shitty today!
December 6, 2018 at 5:40 am in reply to: Trying to deal with anxiety and loss after relationship break up #268087KkasxoParticipantShelby,
It is only natural for spurs of hope to emerge, especially when you hear positive feedback on your relationship. Actually something similar happened to me yesterday as my mum mentioned my ex to me again. As it stands, she has no idea that we are talking at the moment as I made it clear to myself and him that he will not be meeting with my family or coming over until things are settled, IF things eventually settle! I don’t want to confuse anyone or cause any further drama so I thought its best this way. So she brought him up in conversation yesterday and although there is a sour taste due to the hurt he caused she still manages to look past that and she mentioned things like it’s clear you two were made for one another, we love him like a son, the way you two bounced off of one another is unlike anything I have ever seen before, you two were absolute best friends, you had an admirable relationship etc etc. And I agree, it did make me think hey maybe she’s got a point?! Maybe this will be worth it?! Maybe I should try a little harder to not doubt this so much?! So the hope is definitely there – whether I can do it or not is another story..
I think your friend may have a point. It is without a doubt that your ex loved and still loves you deeply. But yes, as your therapist previously mentioned, in a world where it would’ve been just the two of you this relationship could’ve made it in the long run, but his other commitments eventually took first place and got in the way and as a result he was unable to progress the way you needed. It is a real shame and I truly believe one day he will wake up and realise the mistake he made by letting you go. Honestly. I can guarantee it. Because I’m not sure if he was ruled by fear or literally by the pressures that his loved ones put on him, either way he wasn’t able to cut the ties with whatever it was that is holding him back from living a happy eternal life with you. But eventually he will wake up and realise it is HIS life and by then he’ll know he made the worst mistake of his life.
I hope you enjoy your time away, some peace and quiet! I am just preparing for the marketing event, it has been hectic at work today but I will be off home shortly to get myself ready for the evening!
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