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NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
Yes there are covert and overt narcissist. I do believe in it just because I have been on Quora and spoke to so many women who dealth with the exact same thing I did. Ok so here is a list of the criteria, but first let me say that yes he was good to me for years at least that is what I thought. But I see now everything he did secured me to stay with him. I hate to look at it like that but it seems that way. Here is a list..
Every time we fought it turned out it was my fault. For years I was confused because I thought I was being the best women I could be and it seemed like nothing I could do was right. ( I now realize he used subtle ways of convincing me of doubting my own judgement.)
He never gave me any space but somehow convinced me I was the clingy one who never gave him space. When I look back there were times he frustrated me and I would say please just give me some time and he would pick at me until I exploded. I now see that he purposely wanted me to explode so that the initial crime he committed was forgotten, now we could focus on my anger instead of him taking accountability.
I couldn’t say no to him or his family. I mean yes I could, but not without being guilted into feeling bad for doing something for myself.
Him and his family were amazing to me in the beginning, I thought I found a golden family. As soon as I started to enforce boundaries I seen the masks falling. I seen them isolate me. I seen them talk behind my back. I am no angel but I did not deserve any of this yet he convinced me I was.
He started telling people I was mentally unstable and I was but because he was driving me to it. Do not get me wrong I have my own problems and wounds as you know but he confused me to the point I did not trust myself. I couldn’t even make decisions. on my own for the simplest thing. Now being away from him the freedom I have to choose for myself feels so good and guilt free.
I found out in the end he was speaking on chat lines to over 50 women. And was meeting up with an ex when he was “supposedly” at work. When I caught him he said he had an addiction to being validated. He said he didn’t know what wrong with him. That he needs attention. And that is one thing I believe. I don’t think he truly was aware of his behaviors. It’s his way of survival. And this in case you are wondering is why I still miss him. I seen him at his best and worst. I miss his best and feel terrible that he feels he needs this constant validation because he feels so low. But I do understand it is not my place to fix him. That is progress for me because I have always felt like I can fix people.
There is more but cannot think of it now.
The man is on a rampage now. Women have contacted me on social media asking if we were together because they feel he is lying to them. Multiple women and he is pathologically lying to them as well now. I feel bad for him some days on the days I don’t hate him for how he betrayed me.
That is another thing, I found out he was lying to me about everything, including work!! His business. Lord only knows how he was paying our bills.
Oh God, it makes me sick writing this stuff. How could I miss this man? But again how does one simply let go of someone they once loved and gave their heart, body and soul too?? It seems so normal but I am such a lover and believed in the fairy tale.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
I am lonely but I don’t know if it just that. I truly miss that man. He was my first everything. He was the love of my life. He was truly my best friend. We would talk all night long about life. I miss our life and routine. I miss Florida and dinners on the water. I kind of lived a luxurious life with him as his family was wealthy. I can do it on my own but it is not the same. He made everything better. I think Narcissism is exaggerated as well but unfortunately my ex meets all of the “criteria” of a covert narcissist. He was amazing to me for years, I mean 100% gentleman and treated me like a queen. He provided for me, took me dinners, bought me things. complemented me, rubbed my back and feet every night. But those weren’t even the things I fell in love with. I fell in love with his smile. With his “heart” that I thought was good back than. I fell in love with his compassion. Now I find narcissist mirror you and those were my traits? It is so confusing. It’s hard to believe he didn’t love and was just using me but what else does living a double life mean? I think I must be getting my period because I have been overly emotional. I have dreams and nightmare about him lately. I just wish he would at least respect me to give me closure. He hasn’t even reached out to see how I am doing with my moms passing. He loved my mom and they talked often. so hard to believe his heart is so cold. And I hope it is not that high either, meaning the 95%. I may just be paranoid but it feels like since my awakening I notice the way people try to use you at the drop of a dime. I can see right through people. Situations where I’d be so genuine I see right through and have to hold onto myself and not let myself fall victim to people’s sketchy ways.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
Of course you will hear from me, probably until the end of one of our times. I have been working my second job and not feeling the best these last couple of days. It has helped me to be at peace seeing people for what and who they are but also scares me and makes me sad. I went 30 years believing that life and people were as genuine as me. Learning that 95 percent of people just want to use people is shocking. Makes me feel like what is the point? If no one genuinely cares why do we gather? Why not be alone.
Besides these thoughts I have been craving and constantly missing my ex these days. I do not know what is bringing this on. I just sit and wonder how he let 5 years go down the drain? I was so good to him. I blamed myself in the beginning but when I look back I gave him everything. Then to find out about Narcissistic Personality Disorder!!! Do you believe in this disorder? I have read so much on it that I am drained and astounded this exists and is incurable!
NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
Don’t be in regret. It is crude but I like it, it applies sometimes. Unfortunately that word is associated with a sexual/sensitive matter but I am working on this trauma and releasing it so it didn’t even come to my mind in that way.
Regarding Florida, I am more and more aiming toward it. I have had a rather decent couple of days and usually get nostalgic during this time but I have actually been more realistic and am looking at things for what they are instead of what I wish they were. I do want to stay in good terms with my family but I also want my own life away from them. They do not hold the same beliefs as me whatsoever. And it is if I am being punished for wanting to change my life for the better. Ultimately I’d like to have a place away and here. So hopefully I can get some over time at my second job and really start saving!!
NicholeParticipantMy job I have right now is based out of Florida where I was living. I work from home right now. I make 17/hour. Going to be starting a second job which I can save that check entirely. I think my pay would qualify me for a small mortgage of the priced condos in Florida. But again no one in Florida. I do like the area I lived in there. Very safe and much cheaper than Illinois. But don’t know how I’d feel back there after break up. I’m in an Air BnB right now in a shared house. It’s oddly not that bad but I’m so exhausted from running around. Wish I had stability and comfort. Wish my Aunt was a bit more supportive. Am I asking too much? It seems every one I’m with since being home I am not satisfied with.
NicholeParticipantLol Anita, yes you hit it on the nose regarding my aunt!!!! So AirBNB tonight. I think if I see her tonight it will not be good so I am thinking of getting away tonight. My brother’s house was my free escape but I do not want to call on him with what is going on. So shared room for 15$ tonight. As long as I have peace.
What do you think about the situation going further? I cannot continue buying AirBnB’s. But do not want to give up dream of investing. It is the one thing that stays on my mind. I feel if I rent. I’ll be a renter for good with no stability.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita, I agree with you and I have been eliminating a lot of people in suffering and I will say it feels good at times. But when I see my future I still can’t help but see me happier, more stable and good people in my life but still having my family and hopefully one day helping them become healthier but I do understand that in the mean time I have to worry about me for once and focus on myself. Yes I hope I am out soon enough as well. I still have 5000 saved which could potentially get me an apartment here furnished but then I become a renter and probably wont be able to save living alone. Where as if I save another 5 grand I can potentially own a 50000 condo in Florida and pay less mortgage there than a rent here in Illinois. I am afraid to live in a city all alone but am becoming increasingly confident about this. I really would like to invest in something. I know my future self would thank me. But toughing it out here with my Aunt is getting rough. We had a conversation last night where she insinuates that when she had to start over after divorce it took her 5 years and was stay beneath an aunt of ours that was evil! She basically said you have to put up with crap until you are able to set out on your own and I find that to be mean. When she offered me this place I thought she was supporting me and now it seems she did it for some type of control. She has helped me a lot but I will not do things I don’t want to do because some one helped me. Is that selfish?
NicholeParticipantHello Anita,
I completely understand what you are saying and I agree with you. It has been on my mind for days as I have gone by. My brothers birthday was Friday so I definitely had to reach out and wish him well on his day. I am so hurt by him and his actions since this woman but I do have to stay I lost myself with my ex but I never stopped loving my family. So any way that I was acting I wasn’t intentionally doing so. So it is hard to cut ties or keep it superficial. He is not that great for emotional support but has ALWAYS been there as far as answer my call, pick me up, have me over, or anything I needed. I think our moms passing definitely has us breaking apart. I know I need to find new supportive loving people but I don’t think I want to lose my brother. I love him and my niece so much. I miss them. I do not wish to be around that woman though! Beside that I have been quite depressed these days! Struggling with living with my aunt still. Trying to find the best solution. I did pick up a second Job as to save and am hoping this helps distract me from living arrangements at the moment.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita, you are right and the universe has been pushing me to think of my life. But where to start? In just 6 months I’ve lost so much and learned so much. About myself and everyone else in my life. Things so painful that I don’t know how I survived some nights. Today my brother texted me again and said I Love you and I could help but tell him he has treated me less than love. He responded that he doesn’t know why I feel that way and we can talk about it at dinner. Me furious said there was nothing to talk about that he knew how he had treated me during the weekend and that he is lost and in bad company! (I really did over step boundaries). His reply was that he had no idea what I was talking about and that he is here to talk or hang out and loves me. I’m so confused. I cannot just stop talking to my brother, he will continue to reach out. There are days where I feel so strong in my decisions and others where I question myself. I guess his reply was invalidating so I started to wonder if I’m over reacting with my boundaries. I have always been taught family is everything and although family has betrayed me I still believe family is important. I hope I can find myself and my life and reunite with family and have a support system. In this life you need support. I’m confused.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
I am back home in Chicago. My last day went like this…
Spent the night at my brothers place while other brother and girlfriend & brother and wife from AZ went out to a bar as we planned but I cancelled. Stayed home with nephew. Woke in morning to drunk 35 year olds who could hardly stand. Heard all about the night and was glad I didn’t go. My brother and his girlfriend came the next morning and we talked as if nothing had happened the days prior. As always. We had lunch and went to airport together. Hardly spoke but were together. I observed my brothers actions and see him as his girlfriends puppet. He doesn’t leave her side and it as if he is afraid to make a move without her. She is highly insecure and I believe jealous of my brother and I relationship when I was introduced in the beginning. Let’s just say she has turned my brother against me and he is now a shell of himself. I have compassion because I too lost myself in my relationship but never did I disrespect my family. It is hurtful. By the end of the flight I was almost in tears by his treatment. To have to accept that my final true connection in this world is fading kills me. He is a good person and many many bad things have happened to him. And I feel like he thinks he found love and is holding on to it with dear life instead of working on himself and healing. When we arrived at my place where his car was parked I said good night and he looked at me and said I love you with this weak voice and I said walking away yea I’m sure you do. Not sure why but that is what came out. He texted me this morning and said Good morning Nichole I love you. I did not respond. He called me twice and I did not answer. He then texted me to let me know he was going to see my Aunt who is dying. I said let me know how she is. I am not sure how to confront this situation. I have to say something to him. But I am so hurt and angry today with his betrayal that I thought it was best I ignore him but I know that I should have better communication.
NicholeParticipantHi Anita, that’s a very hard decision to make but I do think I have to go that route. I an connected to his son he is 4. I love him dearly. I am extremely close to my niece in Chicago. It’s so sad this is reality. I feel so bad that my family communicates so poorly including me at times. I’ve been working at better communicating and boundaries but this trip branch the worst out of me. At the amusement park I feel my brother had tension from the last time we were here and basically passive aggressively antagonized me about it. It was cruel in mean. And I in return canceled Grand Canyon and went to hotel and haven’t spoke to him since. My communication was no better. So stressful and hurtful. Trying to calm this anxiety down. And trying to figure out how to end this trip well. I slept at my brothers house for the last night. Flight is at 5 30 pm. So here all day. My other brother should be coming and I basically have ignored his girlfriend and him so not sure how to deal with that toxic awkwardness. I just want to have the best possible ending to this trip. Was thinking of escaping to airport early but don’t want to run from the situation, rather confront it? Any suggestions?
NicholeParticipantAnita you are so right. Sometimes I feel like you are super natural by the things you say. I’m having a panic attack reading these things and all that I am going through. This was the worst idea at the worst time. I should have saved my money and went on a stay cation by myself. I am so hurt and disgusted by the betrayal. This trip turned out so different than what I expected. I am so disgusted by my brother who I am closest with and the way he has treated me this trip. He has been so passive aggressive and cruel to me. It’s as if he has a grudge against me but won’t communicate in a healthy way. Since his relationship with his new girlfriend he has been a new person but this. These actions are painful. I have to fly home with these people. I’m so hurt. I don’t know how much more hurt I can take. I’m sorry if I sound redundant but the betrayal never ends everywhere I look and turn is another realization and another betrayal. How could this be happening to me. How can I remain strong. I feel dead and empty right now. I feel like I need to go to ER with these chest pains and stress.
NicholeParticipantSuch a scary thought to me. Life is altering so so fast in ways I never would have imagined. Even from 6 months ago. I feel afraid and alone. Having a terrible time at an amusement park. Noticing and learning much. But also hurting and mourning what I thought was a bond for life with my family. It is heart breaking to say the least.
NicholeParticipantIs that even possible in 2019? I feel everyone is so corrupt. Everyone is selfish and out for themselves and this world forces you to be the same way. I thought I did find someone and a family that I chose and they betrayed me.
NicholeParticipantAnita you are so wise and so right but I continue to feel that family is all I’ve ever known. I don’t know where to begin a life without them and especially without my ex. I am truly alone. And for that I am sad. I don’t feel I deserve this feeling. I am not perfect, and I am sure I’ve hurt people along the way unintentionally but my heart is pure. I’ve given love when it wasn’t deserved. I’ve been a shoulder and I’ve given my all to family, friends, and men. Why do I suffer then with insecurities, pain, hurt, and doubt. I do think it is my last trip. At least for a long while. Dinner was ok, but definitely could have been better.
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