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@@Jasmine said:
You are welcome Peace57 @peace57I used the prayer this morning at work for an important business decision and guess what – perfect outcome 🙂
Jasmine Aka Paul lol
LOL! That’s what I get for trying to write a complex post at the office, Jasmine/Paul (duality??). . .
I must try this prayer tomorrow for staff meeting. 🙂
peace57ParticipantLOL!!
Ok, excuse the use of the b-quote. Apparently my other responses wouldn’t post because I was using the quote function–if I tried to quote, it wouldn’t go through.
So I removed the quote code from the post and replaced it with the b-quote style. THEN it went through, but didn’t realize it was going to look like that.
Learn something new every day…
peace57ParticipantRuminant said:
I’m personally not so convinced with the binary thinking that everything that we say or do is either positive or negative. Facts are facts, and they are neutral. I’m not sure why people are so scared of stating facts and being straightforward about them (people in general, that is). There is a difference though in how one delivers the information, and that can require some skillful maneuvering 🙂
Hi Ruminant,
I know you are right on this. The funny thing is, I’ve had a reputation in this company for “skillful delivery” for a couple of decades. I think I’m losing my touch, or age is setting in, or something, lol!
The issues cropping up recently are pushing my territorial button, and I’m working with a number of people who are very new to this type of project, but full of ideas that they assume no one has ever thought of before. That’s a trigger for me. I’ve never understood why new people don’t ask what has been tried before, *then* suggest other methods.
Dain Supero said:
Silence is more than fine as long as silence is in fact your intention and your body language is comfortable with it. It’s not the silence that’s awkward, it’s the awkward body language that almost always accompanies it. Some of the best salespersons, leaders, thinkers, orators, and politicians have used silence quite well as a tool, and to great effect.
Hi Dain:
Thank you for that, and you are also right. I suspect my body language was all over the place the other day. In the end, I probably held my opinion more than necessary. . . and while doing so, a newcomer swooped in when talk of grant applications came up, and volunteered to take on the job of writing them that I’ve been doing for years. Everyone is jostling for position. 🙂 I’m trying to hold my judgement on the fact that she has no experience whatsoever writing grant requests. And to appreciate that I don’t have to worry about them–but I’m not at that appreciation point, yet.
I wish I could fast-forward through about a year of meditation experience right now!
Thank you both for the insights.
peace57ParticipantThis is just a test. I’ve been trying to post responses to this thread for days and they wouldn’t go through.
peace57ParticipantWow, how wonderful to see so many responses. Thank you all so much.
Paul: I read “Feel the Fear” many years ago, not too long after Jeffers first published it. I do remember it being a very helpful book at that time–possibly I need to find my old copy and dust it off.
I like your prayer, that is very helpful. Those are exactly the kinds of things I’m seeking.
Big Blue: I have definitely *not* put enough effort into new approaches yet. I do know most of these people pretty well, as I’ve worked with many of them for years. However, the one I have taken a dislike to, I have arduously avoided getting to know.
There is so much to work on here. I have pigeon-holed this person as a certain “type” that I find annoying . There are some bits of valid basis for that judgement, but not nearly enough for the reaction I’m having. It is strange, but in times away from the group, I sometimes feel a softening toward her. But when I enter the meeting and hear her chatter, it all goes away and I just want to be as far away from her as possible. Humor is something I would ordinarily use–but I am so humorless at these moments that I can’t envision where I would pull it from.
Ruminant: You have hit the bullseye. I recognize that this is deeply tied to my ego and identity. We’re talking 30 years of identity and friendships here. Releasing my attachment to that identity and these relationships feels like floating in space all alone. Logically, I know my life won’t end. But my emotional mind doesn’t see it that way, and it is something I have to put serious work into.
Matt: Again, many more helpful thoughts. I will look for the Salzburg metta meditation. These are the kind of concrete actions that I find very useful.
Thank you all again.
peace57ParticipantWhat I really want to know is how to practice a “gentle countenance” before I even enter the room. I have no poker face when I become emotional. 🙂
peace57ParticipantRaeeka, thank you. Paul, thank you as well.
You bring up getting cut off in traffic, and that’s what’s funny to me about this. I am not a traffic stressor. In fact, a lot of routine irritations that drive other people nuts tend to roll off my back. I function really well in a crisis, and my other job is heavy deadline-driven stuff that would make many jump and run. But I obviously have some emotional hot buttons that are taking me by surprise.
Writing sounds like a good idea. Perhaps it would help me investigate more deeply.
Thanks again.
peace57ParticipantHello Jessica and Jasmine–thank you so much for your input.
To clarify a little, this work I’m referring to is a team of artists on a creative project. Therefore, 80% of the decisions we make are based on “opinion” rather than fact. The difficulty becomes agreeing on the opinions and collaborating.
That doesn’t change the validity of what you are offering–it’s very helpful. I seem to have creative differences with a couple of team members who I do respect, but at points just can’t get on board with their ideas. And they seem to feel the same way about mine. It feels like I have caused a good deal of tension in recent months in pushing for my opinions–which have the backing of other team members, just not these two at times. And I don’t want to do that anymore, but I seem to default to simply not offering opinions. It feels disingenuous, but I would rather do that than offer something I feel strongly about.
And my intense resentment is with a separate team member over personality differences and–I fully admit it–territorial issues on my part. We are required to collaborate very closely, and I feel threatened on several levels. My ego stamp is all over it. She has not really *done* anything to me except annoy me from time to time–everything else is mostly circumstantial. But I feel replaced and unnecessary–even that’s not really true, but it’s where my chatter goes. And as a result, it takes great effort to maintain civility with her, and I really need to get past it. That’s why I’m taking these steps.
Yes, I have fear now of offering opinions. I have fear of losing my “status” as a respected long-timer. I have fear that I am old and replaceable. And I now have fear that my fears are going to end up destroying everything I’ve worked for with this group.
Yep. Fear.
Your comments about stopping to breathe are well-taken. I’ve had such knee-jerk reactions at times that I’m questioning my ability to remember to do that. I know this will all take time and lots of practice. I feel like such a baby.
Thank you again.
peace57ParticipantWow, the smile is also a very good idea (even though I can feel my mind resisting it already). I like having concrete actions to work with.
peace57ParticipantActually, this is a pretty good kickstart–thank you. I know it requires some creativity in finding different ways to look at things to find the positive angle, and I’m rusty at that right now.
It’s funny, after thinking about this for a few days, I suddenly remembered how the old children’s novel “Pollyanna” was among my favorite reads as a child (40+ years ago). I was intrigued with the concept of “the Glad Game” and how it could present a different perspective on situations. Such a simple concept with life-changing effects, and it took a child to teach the adults how to play the game.
It is also interesting that “I get to feel better about myself” is one of the least attractive and motivational statements to me. I have much work to do on why I seem to fear feeling better about myself. . .
Thank you!
peace57ParticipantHi, I’m new to this forum, and when I came across Barbara’s reframing concept, I loved it.
I’m wondering if there are ways to apply it to interpersonal issues, like strongly opposed opinions on an office project team, where the project success is important to the entire team. Or even more, in working toward eliminating negative feelings/jealousy about a coworker.
Could anyone offer suggestions on how that kind of ‘I get to” reframing might sound?
This forum is terrific–thanks for your help.
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