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December 9, 2025 at 3:09 pm #452796
PeterParticipantA woman approached the Buddha and confessed: “I don’t know how to practice, how to be spiritual.”
The Buddha asked gently: “Is there anyone you love?”
She replied: “Yes, my newborn child.”
The Buddha said: “Then start there. Care for him with mindfulness, with compassion. Let that love be your practice.”Sometimes I have the sense that “spirituality” has become too rigid a word.
Spirituality is not a mountain to climb, nor a word to master. It is the quiet reflection that opens us to mystery, and the tender hand that pours love into the ordinary. Begin where your heart already leans, in the care you give, in the breath you notice, in the child’s laughter that needs no name. There, the Way is alive. There, the Beloved is already waiting.
December 9, 2025 at 2:46 pm #452795
PeterParticipantStudent: Master, I see two paths before me. One speaks of truth, of patterns beyond my control.
The other speaks of care, of tending to what is fragile. They do not seem to meet.Master: Do not divide the river. Its current is both the unseen source and the hand that cups water.
Truth is the flow, care is the drinking. Without one, the other is dry.Student: But how can I know which is real? Is safety an illusion, or is it born of love?
Master: Safety is a shadow cast by the Beloved. Sometimes it appears as questioning, sometimes as nurturing.
Both are mirrors of the same sun. Do not cling to the shadow, step into the light.Student: Then the two paths are one?
Master: Yes. The reed grows because the wind bends it, and because the gardener waters it.
Mystery and care are not rivals. They are two notes of the same song.December 9, 2025 at 7:28 am #452771
PeterParticipantHi Anta
I think you captured something real in describing the experience of falling in and out of flow.
Reading your post, I wondered if Tao might sometimes be mistaken for flow itself, or treated as something to attain, as if staying in flow would make everything wonderful. (that reading was a projection of mine, a something I noticed within me)
Tao is not the flow, but that from which flow arises, holding both our moments of presence and our forgetting, our joys and sorrows.
Noticing the rain, for a moment you we are the rain and perhaps the breath softens. Then the mind, the heart, or the body begins to ask: What is this? How do I sound? – And perhaps another part notices this questioning and laughs. Life doesn’t ask us to remain in stillness. It is, I feel, enough that we notice, and return home from time to time.
I was wondering what you thought of the suggesting that over the years we have been circling the challenge of taking our realizations past something that we know?
The following is yesterdays journal entry.
What does it mean to truly live the values we cherish, rather than just speak of them?
I grew up in a community rich with beliefs. From within, those convictions felt certain; yet from the outside, one might wonder if they were truly lived. My own frustration has often been noticing how far we seemed from embodying the values we proclaimed.
Perhaps this disconnect is not deliberate, but an unconscious pattern, treating the spiritual path as law as if law was the source itself. I know this pattern in myself: when I cling to the path as though it were the origin, I end up frustrated, because the place it points toward cannot be reach though law.
True embodiment flows from the source. It is not born of rigid adherence to forms, but of inner alignment with what those forms signify. When the source is forgotten, the path becomes hollow, a ritual without life, a map without terrain. But when the source is encountered, the path becomes luminous, not as a substitute for reality, but as its reflection….
The spiritual path matters, but only as a signpost. It cannot give what it points to. To live the values we cherish, we must return, if only for a breath, to the origin, the wellspring from which all paths arise. When we drink from that source, the path ceases to be a burden and becomes a natural expression of life itself.
A Day in Flow (update)
Peter rose with the morning light. He poured tea, watching steam rise and fade. He walked to work, heard a child laugh, and joined without thinking. At the office, he answered what he could, listened when words came sharp, and peace returned.
That evening, he cooked, hummed, and watched the sky darken. Nothing extraordinary happened. Yet everything was whole.
The path was not effort. It was the source flowing through him, turning ordinary moments into quiet grace.December 8, 2025 at 10:40 am #452741
PeterParticipantThat was well crafted Anita and illuminates what we are circling. I wonder now if we could simplify?
Anita: Rules and techniques do not vanish. They sink so deeply into embodiment that action flows of itself, without effort, without thought..
Peter: Yes.. Embodiment is not born of technique; technique arises as its echo. The small self resists this truth, clinging to control and fearing the surrender that freedom requires. In its doubt, the small self imagines the echo to be the source.
Anita: Yet Flow is simple, just noticing…
Peter: It moves without measure, without panic, without striving. Only presence remains, and in presence, the Tao flows as you.In our dialogues we circle the question: What would it mean to live what we say we believe and know?
A thought that arises: Realizations are not meant to remain as ideas but to sink into us, becoming embedded, becoming flesh. In this way, embodiment is the quiet shift where belief dissolves, and life itself becomes the expression of knowing. Flow
To embody is to stop believing about the truth, and to begin living as truth. It is the Tao flowing through us, where realization is no longer separate from action, and knowing is no longer separate from being…
December 8, 2025 at 9:23 am #452735
PeterParticipantHi Everyone
As I return to the Tao Te Ching, I offer these reflections as invitations… Knowing the Tao cannot be held in words, confined to the categories of noun or verb. In the same way, the words silence, stillness, and the Eternal are not things to grasp, but gestures pointing toward the mystery.This reflection weaves together a CAC daily meditation ‘Trusting the Unknown Path’ and thoughts on Tao. In a moment of synchronicity, the two converged, opening naturally, I think into a wider conversation on Flow.
The Tao moves unseen, shaping all things without striving. What seems like darkness is not absence, but the fertile womb of becoming a possibility of silent night birth, a choiceless choice. To walk the pathless path is to surrender the need for answers and rest in the mystery that carries us beyond ourselves.
The way of Tao is not to grasp but to release. To not know is the deeper knowing; to not need is the greater freedom. The mystics call this “death,” yet it is only the dissolving of illusion, the transition into compassion. Faith is luminous darkness: the trust that the unseen Way is already guiding us.
Tao works in secret. If we saw the whole unfolding, we would cling or resist. Instead, Tao liberates us quietly, loosening attachments and dissolving compulsions. The “dark night” is not sinister but sacred, the hidden alchemy by which freedom ripens beneath our awareness.
No one willingly oversees the undoing of the false self. As deep calls unto deep. Spirit resonates with spirit, the eternal Yes awakening the Yes within us.
In the poverty of surrender, all that is not Tao dissolves. What remains is the infinite beauty already given, Tao as Tao, Love as Love, Self as Self.
So what dissolves?
Not Tao itself, which is eternal and unchanging. Not phenomena, which continue to arise and pass.
What dissolves is illusion of the false sense of separation, the illusion of a self standing outside the flow.All things arise from Tao, like mist from the mountain, like waves from the sea.
Yet what is not Tao? Only the veil of forgetting, the dream of separation, the shadow of grasping.
The mist dissolves, not the mountain. The wave returns, not the ocean.
Illusion fades, but Tao remains, the unborn, the undying, the pathless path, the eternal Yes.
Everything arises from Tao, but not everything is seen truly. What dissolves is the veil that hides Tao from itself.The Way cannot be possessed, only trusted. It is not a road but a rhythm, not a map but a mystery. To speak of Tao is to trace the outline of what cannot be named. To listen for Tao is to rest in the space before thought. To walk with Tao is to trust the pathless path, where dissolving and arising are one movement, and where all that is hidden reveals itself in its own time.
December 7, 2025 at 2:52 pm #452709
PeterParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for taking up the challenge.Flow, or wu wei, doesn’t mean forcing yourself to stop caring or to stop feeling. It means not doing anything extra on top of what’s already here: notice the pain, and don’t add the fight with the past. Grief and non‑attachment can coexist… keep the love, release the argument with what cannot be changed.
Self‑approval matters… though I’m wary of tying it to flow as it can slide into striving. Self‑approval can reduce self‑criticism where as Flow notices the feeling with no extra effort, no score.
For tonight: take one slow exhale. Notice one thing you did today that came naturally. Let your body settle.
May you have a good Tao night of sleep and rest. Amen.December 7, 2025 at 2:21 pm #452708
PeterParticipantHi Alessa,
I appreciate your grounded views.
For me, flow doesn’t ask life to look different. Embodied, everything is received differently… the calendar stays, the grip softens, heaven beneath our feet.
December 7, 2025 at 2:08 pm #452707
PeterParticipantHi Everyone: continued thoughts.
Lao Tzu points past the one who tries to secure stillness. “Return to the root” isn’t something the self accomplishes; it’s what shows itself when its activity softens. This I feel is flow: not forcing stillness or silence, but letting the constancy beneath each step reveal itself, heaven beneath our feet. Then belief in the raft yields to embodiment of arrival. We don’t arrive at a place we already are; we notice it. And from that noticing, action becomes natural, unforced, compassionately precise.
A brief example: When Jesus says he didn’t come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, the fearful self hears “climb the ladder harder. (sadly this is how his words are usually read) But fulfill means embody, the law becomes living breath, ‘on earth as in heaven.’ Not achievement by the self, but life expressed through us when grasping relaxes. In this, Lao Tzu and Jesus point the same way: the path is fulfilled when it disappears into presence.
Avoiding religious language lets think of a musician: scales and technique are real, laws of the craft. But at the moment of performance, trying to “find the music” only tightens the hand. When the seeking relaxes, the song plays itself through the musician. The law isn’t abolished; it’s fulfilled – embodied – so completely it disappears into the music. That’s I experience as flow, and it’s the heart of “returning to the root.”
to simplify… or make more complex 🙂 The raft asks for faith. The shore asks for feet. When the seeker loosens, the ground appears.
December 7, 2025 at 2:03 pm #452706
PeterParticipantHi James
“Not finding stillness, but stepping back from the one who tries to find it” – Yes, And a step further: we say “Tao,” then unsay it. Silence is not a destination, nor a self that finds; it is what remains when finding ceases. The seeker steps off the raft, and the shore is already here.
December 4, 2025 at 9:11 am #452564
PeterParticipantThanks Thomas and I agree
December 4, 2025 at 7:24 am #452555
PeterParticipantHi Anita
Sorry, I missed the mark in my attempt to simplify. It’s difficult to simplify using the very words, ideas, beliefs… being released.
Your image of running free in the fields is beautiful and full of heart. What I hear in your words is a longing for a time before pain, a place of safety and trust.
I wonder, if flow were possible for you today, what might it look like? Not in the past, but in the life you have now.
For me that is what the koan hints at… the ground beneath our feet.No pressure, just curious what comes up for you.
December 4, 2025 at 6:49 am #452550
PeterParticipantHi James and Thomas
I’m finding a lot of insight in your posts.As a third party observer when I read Thomas’s reflections, I did not interpret them as statements of personal belief, but rather as pointing toward something to be embodied in practice. That is why I was somewhat surprised by James’s response, which seemed to frame Thomas as holding onto a belief.
It feels like both of you are pointing to the same truth but from different sides. Thomas is describing how Zen teachings emphasize that enlightenment is already present, not something to be achieved. James is reminding us that even holding onto that description as a belief can become another form of attachment.
I wonder if the word ‘believe’ is where the wires cross? Thomas is using it to mean ‘Zen points toward,’ while James hears it as personal belief and something to hold on to. If we shift the language to ‘Zen teaches’ or ‘Zen points to,’ the overlap becomes clearer: enlightenment is not attained, but realized when clinging drops away. In that sense, you’re both describing different aspects of the “stepping off the raft“.
December 3, 2025 at 3:36 pm #452531
PeterParticipantCounter-Challenge:
Take a moment with this koan, no need to overthink, just let the words settle and see what comes up:A monk asked the master, “From where does the path arise?”
The master replied, “From the source, like a river from the mountain.”
The monk pressed further, “Then may I walk back to the mountain?”
The master shook his head: “When the river flows, it does not climb. The mountain is not behind you; it is beneath your every step.”Then, write a short story of what a day in flow might look like for you. After that, reflect on why you doubt its possibility.
There’s no right or wrong answer.December 3, 2025 at 3:15 pm #452530
PeterParticipantAnd because I’m me 🙂 a reflection and story
When I first began dancing, there were moments when the music carried me, no counting, no measuring, only flow. A quiet noticing. These moments came by accident, before I knew the steps, before the mind whispered, “Let me…”
Later, as lessons multiplied, I chased the flow by trying to perform correctly, and the experience of flow vanished. Until one night, weary and forgetting myself, the dance remembered me. The steps and rhythm had always been in the music; I only needed to step aside. And then, of course, the mind returned: “Let me…”
The dance feels like a circle of remembering, arriving, and forgetting… until perhaps, forgetting itself becomes arrival?
I hear the value of words and quantification, yet as I age, I’m drawn to the moment when it dissolves into fulfillment, when love is the ground and the steps remember themselves.
I wonder if what feels like a secret teaching is simply resistance to a subtle truth: one must step off the raft before reaching the shore. The Dharma carries us across, yet clinging to it keeps our feet from touching the ground. The secret is not hidden; it is only hard for a self to trust, so the mind insists: “Let me…
A Day in Flow – (need it be a dream?
Morning light spills across the kitchen table. Peter pours tea, not hurried, not slow, just present. The steam curls upward, and he watches it dissolve, smiling at how it mirrors his own thoughts. No need to chase them, no need to hold them.On his walk to work, he notices the crunch of snow beneath his boots. A child slips, then laughs, and he laughs too, because the joy is contagious. He doesn’t think, I should be kind, he simply bends to help, and the gesture feels as natural as breathing.
At the office, emails pile up, but he doesn’t feel trapped. He answers what he can, then lets the rest wait. A colleague comes in tense, words sharp, but Peter listens without defense. Something in his quiet presence softens the room. The colleague exhales, as if remembering themselves.
Evening arrives. He cooks a simple meal, humming to the rhythm of the knife against the cutting board. Later, he sits by the window, watching the sky fade into indigo. No grand revelation, no fireworks, just the steady pulse of life, already whole.
He laughs softly, remembering: We work for that which no work is required. And the day folds into night, the dance continues without his effort, carrying him gently along.December 3, 2025 at 2:59 pm #452527
PeterParticipantHi Anita,
A challenge accepted 🙂First, I don’t feel Thomas and James are really disagreeing. The words make it seem that way, but underneath, they’re pointing to the same thing.
So, simply put:
– The labels and ideas that used to interest me don’t feel as important now. They’re helpful for learning, but once you’ve learned what you need, you can let them go.
– Put another way: When something becomes clear, when you really know it, you don’t need to “believe” it anymore. You can live it.I also feel we often hold on to words because the self feels it needs them for control. That’s where I feel the self is lying to itself, and a part of it always knows it lying.
I’ll add this: letting go of words feels like something that is intended for later in life…
Does that make sense? -
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