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PeterParticipant
It only a mistake if you don’t learn from the experience.
The “mistakes” you mentioned seem to come from a place of trying to do too much too quickly with an underling fear of not being perfect. I am a firm believer, having personal experiences that we create what we fear. Slow down, breath, create some space and you will find that you will become even more proficient at your job.
The notes I handle no better than many pianists. But the pauses between the notes ah, that is where the art resides. Artur Schnabel
“The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between them”. – Claude Debussy
Allow life to be music
Recommend the following book.
‘Stopping: How to Be Still When You Have to Keep Going’ by David KundtzPerfectionist – holding yourself to standards that you don’t hold others to… (some might experience that as arrogance) … we love others as we love ourselves… what are you saying about yourselves when you apply the label of perfectionist as a part of our being.
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PeterParticipantFor me this appears to be a problem of measurement and labeling. On the whole we suck at measuring emotional experience and then compound the problem with labeling the experience and the person or self as being the label. For example the measurement that having many sexual partners is bad, there for a person who has many sexual partners is bad. The person becoming the labels created.
The map is not the territory, the word tree is not a tree… we are more than the sum of our parts and labels.
You must live your values as you understand them. If you are having to validate those values via the application of labels the danger is the creation of a I – It experience vice a I – Thou experience.
Each person is unique, more than the sum of their parts (and past).
PeterParticipantWe experience guilt when we know we did, or feel we have done, something wrong. When we are unsure we have done something wrong we experience something else. Discerning what that something else is, requires a great deal of discernment.
Guilt and shame sometimes go hand in hand; the same action may give rise to feelings of both shame and guilt, where the former reflects how we feel about ourselves and the latter involves an awareness that our actions have injured someone else. In other words, shame relates to self, guilt to others.
Sometimes I find it difficult to discern the difference to the feeling of guilt and shame. Often I think that undeserved feelings of quilt are really experienced as undeserved shame, and that the difference is important.
From what you wrote I think you may be experiencing undeserved shame.
Maybe it’s all semantics… however it seems to me you have taken on the responsibility of your father’s feelings and state of mind which has left you feeling bad (equating feeling bad with quilt) about who you are as a daughter and person. As this relates to how you feel about yourself that would be shame. An undeserved shame.
Anyway
I found the fallowing book helpful
‘Shame and Grace: Healing the Shame We Don’t Deserve’ by Lewis B. Smedes- This reply was modified 8 years, 2 months ago by Peter.
PeterParticipantI found myself returning to the following book
‘Learning to Fall: The Blessings of an Imperfect Life’ by Philip Simmons“We are all—all of us—falling. We are all, now, this moment, in the midst of that descent, fallen from heights that may now seem only a dimly remembered dream, falling toward a depth we can only imagine, glimpsed beneath the water’s surface shimmer. And so let us pray that if we are falling from grace, dear God let us also fall with grace, to grace. If we are falling toward pain and weakness, let us also fall toward sweetness and strength. If we are falling toward death, let us also fall toward life.”
PeterParticipantsorry the guy is playing a game. Hes creating the continuations to force you to make the decision so that he can think of himself as the wronged misunderstood party. If life if a stage this is not the play you want to have a staring role in.
From what you wrote it is unlikely this guy will make your relationship a priority. Such men have to experience the pain of loss before they are ready for relationship.
That does not mean you should wait for him to learn as we teach people how to treat us. If he learns the lesson and you startup the relationship again he will back slid. This is the nature of Love, sometimes it requires we move on in order to learn the lessons it has for us.
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October 11, 2016 at 8:26 am in reply to: A Question For Those Who Are Going Through Depression and Anxiety #117774PeterParticipant“There is no point treating a depressed person as though she were just feeling sad, saying, ‘There now, hang on, you’ll get over it.’ Sadness is more or less like a head cold- with patience, it passes. Depression is like cancer.” ― Barbara Kingsolver,
Depression is insidious, a vampire that sucks away ones creative energy, a zombie bite turning you into one of the living dead.
It’s interesting as a Zombie desire for brain is the desire to live off the thinking and memories of others.
I suspect my experience of depression is more Zombie like as it relates to the stories I tell myself and put on repeat, leaving me in a state where I feel I’m living life as one already dead.
Perhaps a part of me thinks that if I repeat a story enough times I might change the ending. And of course there is the habit of comparing my experiences with those around me and the expectations I about how life and life ‘should’ be. So much garbage.
Perhaps an existential problem, meaning purpose… Yet my depression seems deeper than that something more even feeling. When I fall into the pit of depression I don’t feel anything perhaps because I feel everything all at once so it is not my negative emotions that keep me stuck, but the stories I am telling myself… yet even that.. It’s the story of depression that I can no longer see ending.
I am depressed because I am depressed because I am depressed…
“A human being can survive almost anything, as long as she sees the end in sight. But depression is so insidious, and it compounds daily, that it’s impossible to ever see the end.”
― Elizabeth WurtzelPeterParticipantThe profile picture you picked to represent yourself shows you have been able to maintain an eye and connection to beauty even you have yet to realize it as part of who you are.
Let the image of the rolling waves of love create the space for you to realize what is already present within.
Deep peace of the running wave to you.
Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
Deep peace of the gentle night to you.
Moon and stars pour their healing light on you.
Deep peace of the infinite peace to you,Gaelic Blessing
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PeterParticipantThat life requires the sacrifice of life we latterly change with every breath we take yet we don’t generally experience that as change
I agree that we change objective measurable qualities quite often however it seems to me that our experience of ourselves that makes those changes (assuming we don’t identify our sense of selves with our thoughts, ideas, goals…) changes very little.
PeterParticipantI was thinking about what you wrote last night and an image come to mind of someone who was not just stuck but blocked. Not to be crude but the word that came to mind was constipated. Perhaps the difficulty in letting go of past experiences was in away leaving you mentally and or emotionally constipated.
I then saw an image of you as a freely running river, someone who was able to allow their experiences to move through them, taking in the nutritious parts of the experiences and expelling the rest. I know it’s odd.
Part of the practice of ‘alchemy’ required the alchemist to enter into the task they are performing. That as the various metals were melted so they could be purified they experienced the purification within themselves. I am a firm believer that when we enter into a physical practice of some kind in this manner we can transform our inner being as well. (I used ballroom dance)
This might sound strange but I wondered what might happen if you took some time by yourselves and tried one of those cleansing and detoxification programs while meditating on the process of letting go. That as you work on the physical you also work on the inner.
What might life be like if your memories could freely flow through you without them overly influencing your present?
I know it’s odd and I’m surprised I sharing these thoughts but what the hay, even if they just make you laugh, Nothing wrong with a good laugh.
Best wishes on your Journey.
PeterParticipantThere is an art to forgiveness. Many feel that if they forgive they are saying that what happened to them was ok and that they now must allow those who have hurt them back into their lives. But that is not so.
Forgiveness can create the space for the wronged to move forward from the experience.
For a word that is often used it is surprising how little the word forgiveness is understood. Don’t let your heart harden and in hardening keep everything bottled up.
I found the following book on Forgiveness quite helpful.
The Art of Forgiving by Lewis B. Smedes“Forgiving does not erase the bitter past. A healed memory is not a deleted memory. Instead, forgiving what we cannot forget creates a new way to remember. We change the memory of our past into a hope for our future.”
To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you. Lewis B. Smedes
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PeterParticipantI also can relate with the constant looping self-talk keeping me stuck in place. I suspect that as a graduate in philosophy you might have a tendency to overthink things.
The story of Cinderella comes to mind as this is a story about what to do when your suck and experiencing the time of ashes.
In the story Cinderella has lost contact with her mother and father. As an archetypal inner energy the Father provides protection, guidance, discipline while the Mother our ability to nurture and love ourselves. (We all need to become our “own mother and father” and learn to nurture, guide and protect our authentic selves. This is one of the tasks of becoming.)
In the story Cinderella is stuck with the step mother (negative self-talk) and so not able to nurture her authentic self. Even her creative possibilities, what she felt were her gifts seem to work against the self and become un-relatable. (Step sisters)
It is during this time that the task is to take care of the daily jobs required, to tend the garden, take out the trash. To do what you need and have to do as best you avoiding the temptation to over think, measure the experiences.
This creates the space for what could be called the numinous movement, the invitation to the ball. The time where without our trying to control the situation we have the experience, the “magical” moment, were all ones experiences come together with purpose, a glimpse of possibilities and dancing with life once more.
Here there may be a temptation to hold fast to such experience, stay to long, recreate them… but that will just leave you stuck in other ways. Such experiences are not meant to last but light the fire of inspiration.
The numinous experience awakens the time for the inner “prince” archetype. The time of action to seek out a connection to ones being and doing, feeling and thinking nature.
In time of ashes the story advises, as does many wisdom traditions, that we spend time doing the jobs required of us. Perhaps the kind of meditation practice of washing dishes, sweeping floors… without thinking of doing other things. A focus on the tasks and needs at hand without measurements or judgments that so easily leads to the negative step mother self-talk.
Create the space for possibility and glimpse of what might be and the time to act, to seek out the connection between your feeling and thinking nature and see what new possibility might then be born. Allow it to happen and Trust.
We become the stories we tell ourselves, so write a good one.
Checkout Kathryn Craft the author of ‘The Art of Falling’ website, her journey of writing is interesting.
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PeterParticipantOne of the tasks of individuation is to connect to our own inner mother and father. We must learn to nurture and protect ourselves.
Gift of getting older ought to be that you don’t have to care so much as to what others think
“The way you react has been repeated thousands of times, and it has become a routine for you. You are conditioned to be a certain way. And that is the challenge: to change your normal reactions, to change your routine, to take a risk and make different choices.” — Don Miguel Ruiz
“When you repeat a mistake, it is not a mistake anymore: it’s a decision.” — Paulo Coelho
“Stop comparing where you’re at with where everyone else is. It doesn’t move you farther ahead, improve your situation, or help you find peace. It just feeds your shame, fuels your feelings of inadequacy, and ultimately, it keeps you stuck. The reality is that there is no one correct path in life. Everyone has their own unique journey. A path that’s right for someone else won’t necessarily be a path that’s right for you. And that’s okay. Your journey isn’t right or wrong, or good or bad. It’s just different. Your life isn’t meant to look like anyone else’s because you aren’t like anyone else. You’re a person all your own with a unique set of goals, obstacles, dreams, and needs. So stop comparing, and start living.” — Daniell Koepke
“You will never be free until you free yourself from the prison of your own false thoughts.” — Philip Arnold
“When you truly don’t care what anyone thinks of you, you have reached a dangerously awesome level of freedom.”
“Trust yourself. You have survived a lot and you will survive whatever is coming.”
PeterParticipantIf you have a activity you enjoy there is probably a group or club that you could join.
In the end if this is something you want you are just going to have to put yourself out their.
PeterParticipantI recommend the book “How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving Paperback by David Richo
My thoughts on love
What role does love play in relationships? It sounds like a no brainer question but is it?
I have observed many relationships between two people who loved each other end, my own included, and wondered whyIf Love is all that matters, all there is, love the only reality, a stronger force than anything else… what’s love got to do with it? Could it be that love sometimes requires two people to go in separate ways and if so why?
An examination of our experience of love reveals that it is a simple complex experience.
It seemed to me that part of the experience of loving and being loved involved qualities such as meaning and purpose. We want what we do, think and feel to matter and make a difference to those we love and our experience of the world. We are pushed to become.
For there to be meaning and purpose in our lives we need to add quality of responsibility, accountability, boundaries… to the experience of love.
Sometimes It seems to me that a relationship of love unlocks the potential being of the other but that then points them to different paths in order for their becoming and experiences of meaning and purpose. LOVE requiring a relationship to end so that both parties may move forward on their journey of becoming.
Often this happens as unconsciously and then we start to create experiences so our partner fails us in some why so that we can then move on. Maybe we cheat and force our partner to make the decision for us… Sometimes we have to learn the hard way… love requires that we get to be held accountable for our actions, the good and the bad (or there can be no meaning and purpose to our love)
What’s love got to do with it? Everything.
Love wants us to become and sometimes that means LOVE requires a relationship to change.PeterParticipantAfter having similar experiences and feelings I found that a great deal of it was influenced by the stories I was telling myself. I would constantly replay conversations and past memories of perceived failings, longing for do overs, if only, should have, could have, a consent stream of negative self-talk.
Of course I was aware of all the self-help advice to change the stories and think positive however I wasn’t able to do that.
Like you my attempt at meditation and positive thinking would end badly as I got overwhelmed by past memories and associated negative self-talk. Worse I added the failure of not being able to create a better story or positive thinking to the list to make myself feel worse. (It occurred to me that I might be addicted to feeling bad.)
I wasn’t able to replace the negative stories with positive thinking but wondered if I could just stop telling story’s in those moments.
I set the intention to noticed when I was telling my victim or villain stories and the stop. Instead of filling the space with analyses or “positive” thinking, I would take a breath and focus on doing what I was currently doing.
It was odd as I started to notice an empty space in which in which I could be a detached observer and better respond to the experience.
I had to be careful as I didn’t want to become detached from my experiences or feeling and become apathetic. It’s a difficult balance as the lure to detach fully from feeling is a temptation for me.
However by not filing every space with a stories, replays and analyses, positive or negative, it has helped in creating a space where it became possible be and not get lost in frantic inner reactions.
I still at times feel empty, lost and detached, dead to my experiences, however by stopping the self-talk and not filling the space in I am less likely during those times to use the experiences to spiral deeper into the pit, essentially beating myself up for beating myself up, for beating myself up, for feeling bad, for feeling bad, for feeling unhappy, for feeling unhappy….. (Which is what I was addicted to, feeling something by feeling bad about myself)
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