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Hi @Helcat,
Thanks for your response! Yes there are people who trigger me more (specifically there are two people, both quite high up in the organization who throw their weight around. I don’t know if I can separate them. I have been trying. But then something else happens and I get triggered again and its back to square one, there have been three triggers within this last week and it seems like my treshold is getting lower rather than higher, by that i mean Im getting triggered more rather than less. I dont know how much I should put up with, how much is normal. I am afraid that since most work places have people like this in authority positions, I am making things difficult for myself by deciding to leave jobs because I feel triggered at them and that I will pretty much end up unemployed and looking for handouts 20 yrs down the line unless I suck it up now. But my brain seems to be in a continous grey angry fog. Dont know.
Best,
M
greenshadeParticipantHey @Anita ,
Thanks for taking the time to read through all of my old posts. It was interesting to read through and it seems like my need to be incharge of my own time is a pretty recurrent theme that I cant let go off even though I’ve wanted to. With the poisoning memory- I struggle to attach significance to it (like I almost cant believe it happened) even though it did, so reading someone else write it was strangely validating.
I did move out in March 2021. I am currently pretty happy with my home situation but the work situation is what is spilling over more. I have also been happy in work places although because of financial reasons (places not being able to pay me full time, me needing full time employment) I have not been able to stay in such places for long. I usually prefer working in smaller less formal set ups with people with similar value sets but I am feeling internal pressure to change that about myself.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by greenshade.
greenshadeParticipantHeyy @Helcat thanks for your response! Yes I do think that is part of it. I have studied at this place before as well and have so many biases against it from that time as well, in fact its when I was studying there that I first developed my anxiety symtoms that Anita has also described in her reply. But since I have experienced burn out before I am also more anxious around enforcing my boundaries for time off, and it feels like a violation when someone tries to encroach on holidays. I also interpret it as them playing a control game (I’m the boss and I need to know you’re available whenever I ask).
In general, however I feel if someone is more respectful of my boundaries generally, I also have less of a reaction if they reach out over holidays (I feel in those cases that I know they wouldn’t disrupt my time off unless it was an emergency) and the intent and energy of that interaction feels different.
I guess it is a conflict of – I feel like the hierarchical work environment is not a good fit for me, but I am also tempted by what is achievable in these environments and the amount of impact you can have + the benefits of being paid on time are pretty great (Ive worked in more lose environments where sometimes I wasn’t paid for months) so a part of me is trying to see if I can CBT myself enough to fitting into this environment.
M
greenshadeParticipant@Rose of Yellow Thank you for your words I feel supported by them 🙂 <3. I am in long term therapy, I have an appointment with my therapist tomorrow. She usually supports my PTSD work so I don’t know what it will be like discussing grief with her. I also feel concerned for me lol. Connection is a pretty big need for me, but I also have relational trauma so I don’t feel safe connecting with any of my friends at the moment.
@S thank you for your words. He was a wonderful grandfather. We would garden together and then cook what we had grown. He also would tell me bed time stories he made up in which I was a detective and helped catch the bad guys. He had a definite impact on my personality even though I just had the four years with him.greenshadeParticipantDear all, thank you for your replies.
It has been some week :).
@anita it is very scary to think of it, especially the deaths of the people closest to me – that they will one day just not exist – their voice, smell, everything will disappear – it really makes me feel like everything is worthless.“No one beats mortality because of loving someone, or because of any reason.” This is very true. I think sometimes feelings of love feel so strong I don’t understand how they can’t top every other natural law lol.
That is very interesting. In the last 4 years, I found a permanent work situation (lets all it x) that felt safe and aligned with my work style although I did feel a little codependent with my coworkers. Overall, I was excited and happy and feeling good about life and the critical voice in my head had also softened (through meditation and modeling by others). After 2yrs I left to do my masters in a different country. I came back to x and things were different (the working environment had changed, pays were not frequent, my input wasn’t as welcome). I left x mostly because I wanted financial stability to move out of my parents, and am now working two jobs, one of which feels perfectionistic, rigid and critical and the critical voices in my head and guilty feeling are back and I feel frozen and unable to work. So this is where I am at.
greenshadeParticipantHi Merry,
I relate to what you have shared as well. I still can’t always feel the warm feelings, but am putting down a few things that helped me feel them more.
1. Movement while focusing on the breath – yoga and dance both really helped with this, but with teachers who are focused on creating a connection between mind, body and breath. I like yoga with Adrienne on youtube for this purpose.
2. There are certain types of meditation practices that focus on cultivating soft qualities – compassion, joy, gratitude. Center for mindful self compassion has some links to practices. I did a course with one of their teachers in my city which really opened up my ability to have softer feelings for myself and others.
3. Therapy
4. Spending time with people (well 2 people) in close capacity who feel and express these softer feelings
There were other things too, like inner child work which is hard for me to describe. But all of this is over a period 4 years, which is to say it takes time to break away the layers of defenses we have built up.
With warmth,
M
greenshadeParticipantHi Inky and Anita,
I am sorry for disappearing. I just wanted to let to know you that I read/appreciated your replies. It just felt like the issues were too big for me to manage at the time (and still feel so) so I blocked them out. Hope you’re both well!
Best,
M
greenshadeParticipantHi back again lol. Anita I also wanted to update you on living with mum situation. I have been letting her know more and more how her behavior impacts me. She has started doing these small very self conscious physical affection gestures. She communicates her needs instead of giving me the silent treatment for days. If she is angry or upset and not communicating her needs, she still doesn’t stop communication but does get to her needs eventually. Our dynamic has improved a lot. She sometimes still says minimizing things, but I am able to stand up for myself with her. I do still need my own place because that is still better for me and seeing my dad everyday is still very triggering for me. But just an update.
I noticed when I was living abroad that I would stop myself from going out. I would just stay frozen in my room. And I am wondering if that is what is happening now. Since my mom the critic has become quieter, my inner critic has filled the vacuum with aplomb.
greenshadeParticipantHi Peggy and Anita,
Thanks for your replies!
Peggy, I do find the shallow breathing advice helpful! I will try to apply it. I am anemic, and need to deal with that (when I have the energy for it ironically.)
Anita, those are not possible for me right now. Moving out is something that I am working towards, but the lack of energy is getting in the way (Dont have energy -> cant work -> no salary -> cant move out). I am trying my best to continue showing up at work but it is hard right now. And I dont have enough money to cover rent at the moment.
About the therapist, I have been looking online and asking friends and contacting everyone I can find. However, the one with the earliest availibility cant see me till october. Because I am feeling unable to do all these things I know I need to be doing I am feeling worse and hopeless and like I cant pull through till october.
Best,
m
greenshadeParticipantHi Anita,
I’ve been trying to apply this as best as I can at the moment (creating space and a routine separate from her in the house with boundaries around how much time I spend with her rather than just waiting for her to tell me to do things. Just an update.
best,
m
greenshadeParticipantHi Anita,
Thanks for sharing your experience with me.Yes, that did happen when I was a child. I saw my mother was unable to deal with the world around her or my father and tried to step in and be the adult and I still feel that way about my mum (she is unable to care for herself). Yet she did in the ten months I was away. I can see my dads behavior clearly as abuse, but it is hard for me to see my mums behavior that way. I think we are very enmeshed. It has always been hard for me to imagine a life in my city not with my parents or moving abroad permanently but I have been thinking about it and trying to imagine it in the last few days.
best.
m
greenshadeParticipantHi Anita,
I have been thinking more about your last post. I think I do not clearly see my mom. I still fear abandonment by her and I try to get as far away as I can without jeopardizing the relationship. I will try to work on this.
About your question, I don’t know if electronic security will make me feel safer but there is safety in numbers. Maybe I can get an apartment with a friend or in a gated community.
Thanks again for your reply and your words of support.
best,
m
greenshadeParticipantI just realized I may have been unclear about this. In six months I will financially be able to move out to a different appartment in my city. With this I am scared of sexual assault as women living alone are seen as easy and acceptable targets in my society. In two years, I will be able to work outside the country as my scholarship requirements will be met then. However, my Impact in my own society will be greater than I can make elsewhere (because my health related field is just taking off here but is already well established wlsewhere)
greenshadeParticipantHi Mark,
thanks for replying!
i call and talk via recorded video and audio messages with my boyfriend. I am scared of losing myself in my relationship with him as I am unable to control not focusing solely on him. When saying goodbye, we had considered traveling back to the us after two years to pick things up again. I am scared of going back to another abusive situation and also of abandoning my family (and the start of my precareer ) for him.My concerns with him had mostly been around respecting physical boundaries. However, I am not sure what I communicated that he ignored and what I didn’t communicate. For example, when we would goof off physically (play fights,he would pick me up , tickling etc) and I would say no no no, it was an automatic response and I would actually enjoy the situation. However, a couple of times I was genuinely scared and said no and he didn’t stop until I said it a few times stressing it more. After I came home I became concerned that he doesn’t stop when I say no and that is a problem. However, I was confused because the physical interaction mostly felt healthy and fun to me and healing too because I have always wanted to play fight since childhood but was afraid of being aggressive even in play. My other doubts are around similar things.
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greenshadeParticipantHi Anita,
Thanks for replying.
I think you are right. I did not want to come
back, but had to due to financial and visa related reasons. Before coming back, I had been considering if I can move back out in six months after I start working again (my trip abroad was a study trip and depleted all my savings). Since I have come back however, that seems harder. I have fallen into the old role of my life revolving around my mum and my primary focus (which had shifted to building a healthy happy life for myself ) has shifted back to taking care of my parents and wanting to see my mom happy. My doubts about my relationship grew exponentially after coming back home. My mum feels like my life and I don’t wish to abandon her (is what I am feeling) and that makes it harder for me to have motivation to move out again as I had previously planned (and in truth I also want to avoid a scene. I don’t think I can move out without hurting my mum or making her angry). There is calm at home rn and that also makes it seem unreasonable to me that I want to move out (it is almost unheard of in my culture). After two years (when my work abroad restrictions end) I was thinking of going back to my life with my boyfriend but right now that feels far off and not real. I don’t know. I am definitely feeling like I have moved backwards since coming home.
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