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Vivian McGrath

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  • #121996
    Vivian McGrath
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    That’s wonderful to hear that he shows you he cares. Very important. I hope all works out well for you both 🙂

    #121945
    Vivian McGrath
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    Yes. Definitely. I clung on to a relationship that was no good for me as the thought of being alone and without him terrified me more than the abuse I suffered. Why? Because whenever I left the rush of emotions were so painful, I needed to go back to him to numb them out again.

    When I first me him the high was so incredible. He was charismatic and the chemistry was intense. He hooked me in. But then the darker side of him was revealed. Each time, I wanted the guy I first me back. So I did anything and everything I could to please him and get that high back. I didn’t realise but my love was like an addiction. And the lows got lower, the highs got fewer and further between. My self esteem was crushed. After a low, the outpouring of love and remorse was so great, the high was incredible. When I left him, the opposite was true. The pain was so great and I feared losing the very thing that made me feel good again. I also needed the ‘drug’ of him to numb that pain away again.

    I had to go cold turkey. To thaw out and feel those emotions – anger, sadness, loneliness, fear – in order to heal. I then had to look at why I was with a man who was unavailable to me and no good for me in the first place, when most women would have run a mile. Why was my self-worth so low I was attracted a man who treated me as worthless.

    Once I really looked at myself, at where my emotional needs weren’t met as a child, I could understand them and work to change it. I took one hour at a time, if I couldn’t take one day at a time. I did something nice for myself each day. And once I found self love I no longer felt the drug like pull back to him. In fact, bad boys steered away from me, as they instinctively knew that I got they weren’t a good enough offer for me. Had I not done this I would have gone back to him, or straight into another dysfunctional relationship.

    It is painful as you thaw out and that is why we cling to them. But feel the feelings. Thaw out and heal. It will get better, I promise. You also need time alone to be still. To understand why you went into a relationship not good enough for you. To build your self esteem. Once you are the best person you can be, alone. By that I mean really able to love yourself and not get your worth from a man. Then you’ll be ready for a healthier relationship. If you don’t need it, it will find you. It did for me. I am now with a man who is my best friend, who is there for me, who brings out the best in me and I in him. I couldn’t have found this without going through the process above.

    #121943
    Vivian McGrath
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    He says he wants you to meet his family, spend Christmas together, introduce you to his friends, taking you around his hometown etc. Then it gets awkward and he says the opposite – that he’s nervous about a relationship. He only messages you when you stop chasing him. You have sex and then, nothing again.

    I would watch not what he says, but what he does. Does he show you he is interested? Does he show you he will be emotionally available to you? Does he introduce you to his family, spend Christmas with you etc. not just say it to you?

    If not, then perhaps he isn’t so interested. Or, he is an emotionally unavailable man. Either way, is that really a good enough offer for you? Is it worth pursuing and pushing him to change into something you hope he might be, rather than who he is now? I hope this doesn’t sound too harsh. But I chased someone like that in a similar way. And it only led to heartache.

    If you take the attitude ‘if it’s meant to be it will be’ and don’t push for it to happen, the answer will be given to you by his actions. If he does show you the above, then great! I hope it all works out for you, in the way that is best for you.

    #121941
    Vivian McGrath
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    I feel your pain. It was the same for me when I left an abusive man. But why is it that the pain of being alone and not with them seems to be worse than being with someone we know is not good for us? For me, this was because my loving an unavailable, abusive man became a form of addiction for me.

    When we first met he was so charismatic. He focused all his attention on me and showered me with love. It was intoxicating. But once he had me, he metered out the dose of the ‘good guy’, whilst starting to show his darker side. So I was desperate to get the good guy back, to feel that high I first felt with him. As the lows got lower and the highs further apart, my self- esteem eroded. In fact, my self-esteem became dependent on when he showed me his love and remorse (which was intense after a bout of abuse). I knew I should leave him, that he was no good for me. But if I did, I subconsciously feared I’d lose the very thing I was addicted to. The very thing I needed to make me feel good again.

    Why was I attracted to a man who was no good for me? Why did I stay when most other women would have run a mile? Why did I become addicted to an available man? That’s because I had little self-esteem. We only attract what we think we are worth. So if I feel worthless, then I attract a man who treats me as such. I didn’t know this then. When we met, i saw a damaged guy. One who was wonderful, but flawed. If I could rescue him, then he’d be that guy who swept me off my feet again. But in my rescuing, I was seeing him as the one with all the problems. So I could deny the fact that I was actually very insecure and with no self-esteem. When I left him a gamut of emotions poured out: pain, anger, loneliness etc. I have never sobbed so much in my life. It was overwhelming and I couldn’t cope with them. So I’d go back to him again and again. Back to the ‘drug’ that numbed those emotions out.

    But like an addict we need to go cold turkey. We need to feel these emotions. To thaw out. As painful as it is, it is healing you. Feel them, then try to understand the root of them. I’d never experienced abuse in my family, I had a happy childhood. But I learnt that my emotional needs were not met as a child. My mother was so controlling, I wasn’t able to have emotions of my own. So I distrusted my gut feelings. Those gut feelings that screamed at me he wasn’t the man for me, but which I ignored.

    I then worked hard to build my self-esteem. Through those painful thawing out days, I did one thing nice for myself each day. I took it hour by hour, if I couldn’t cope day by day. I cried the tears. I felt the pain. And then gradually I healed. And once I found out how to love myself, I never allowed anyone to treat me badly again. I met my soul mate. A man who loves me, is there for me and brings out the best in me. Decades later we are still going strong. You will get through this I promise. Thaw out and look at what the root of your pain is. What attracted you to someone who isn’t good for you in the first place. That way you won’t go back to him or head straight into the next dysfunctional relationship.

    #121934
    Vivian McGrath
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    Dear magnoliachrysanthe

    If you read between the lines of your message there is a theme that is worth considering. You worry about him at a party, you keep an eye on him there. You keep taking responsibility for his behaviour throughout, saying things like: ‘I have flaws, but I am working on them’; ‘I got upset unnecessarily’. Always you, but he never takes responsibility for his behaviour at all.

    You admit that this relationship is not mutual and I tend to agree with you. In fact he sounds to me like someone who is coercively controlling you – using (perhaps subtle) verbal or emotional ‘abuse’ to control you.

    In the beginning he was there, but then pulled away from you soon after. You are possibly walking on eggshells around him as you want to get the nice guy back, not the one who yells at you. The one who was there at the beginning but is elusive now. So you keep trying to change your behaviour to appease him. However, to keep you on your toes he says one thing, then denies it. He says another and denies it again. This is a form of moving the goalposts so he can maintain the control.

    Your focus is now totally on him. And who you can change him into being. And blaming yourself for his behaviour that is unacceptable. I would honestly ask yourself: Is this man good enough for me? Does he bring out the best in me and I in him? Do we have shared values, goals about important things in life? Do I really like this person, not just ‘love’?

    Also consider that love is a verb, not a noun. Watch what he does and not what he says. Does he show you he cares for you? Does he treat you with respect? Being in love shouldn’t be about being in pain.

    Vivian

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