i like your analogy of electrons flying off into space in an atom like negative energy:) I think there is a thomson model in which electrons are in the nucleus of an atom because thomson believed that the plus and negative charges were the ones contributing to the neutrality of the atom, but since the protons and electrons would be attracted to each other, the whole atom would then implode (much like if you allow too much negative energy to attach to you and you become destroyed by negativity) so the electrons must be on the outside in an electron cloud which is depicted in the rutherford model. the thomson model reminds me of a chocolate chip cookie because the dough is the protons and the chips are electrons. also it is impossible to determine the position and speed of an electron at the same time. Say a person is running around the room, you can track his/her speed when he/she is moving, but since he/she is moving you can’t know his know his location since he/she keeps moving unless you tackle him/her then you wouldn’t be able to calculate his/her speed. it’s like when andrew and i are competing and andrew moves ahead with a speed that can be measured (how much knowledge he has already acquired), but i still can’t tell where he gets the knowledge unless i ask him to stop his acquiring of knowledge and ask him where he learned it so i can be smarter, but then andrew can’t speed up his knowledge because he is telling me where to get the knowledge. also andrew is currently learning about prosthetic legs that can be connected to a nervous system and possibly have just the same functions and reflexes of a real leg possibly in the future, while dave is out in nature enjoying reading. dave, andrew and i all like obstacle runs especially running cross country, nature is beautiful for both dave and me, but andrew sees nature in a scientific view.

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