Continued:

When the liar doesn’t value truth more than lie, than in the liar’s mind, there is no distinction between truth and lie, there is only this: what piece of information, true or false (doesn’t matter), will serve me now/ make me Win, now?

In which case, there is no way to reach a meeting-of-the-minds, there is either surrendering (going belly up), or .. arguing forevermore with a person,  a beast whose concern for truth vs lie is non-existent.

No meeting-of-the-minds.

anita