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January 18, 2017 at 7:01 am #125630cyrusParticipant
Hi all
Good to have found this forum, hoping to “fix” my issues via the advice I’ll receive (hopefully) on here.
Bit of background on me before I get to my issues. I am 30, Asian and grew up in different parts of the world due to my dad’s job. Out of all the places, I would say I’ve lived 8 years in Pakistan and 13 years in UK, though still consider Pakistan to be home home (I go back minimum once a year). I’ve been working for the last 6 years in London.
It might help if I break the issues into different buckets:
1. Insecure/jealous about friends: because i’ve lived in different parts of the world, i’ve had friends from different cultures but no childhood/long-lasting friends. this makes me jealous of others who have many childhood friends from one school etc because they hang out, attend each other’s weddings and have stories to share. Yes, i know that many people lose touch with many of their school friends but it still gives them a strong sense of belonging. as for me, im always on the search out for more friends and if someone better comes along on the way, i have the urge to befriend them. looking at social media and pictures of my friends hanging out with their childhood friends etc makes me jealous and insecure. not sure how to overcome this? im quite social though so can befriend new people easily. also at times i think moving back to “home home” will help me make more friends. i do have many good friends in my life though.
2. Want more siblings: i have a younger sister but not sure why i yearn for another sibling, ideally a brother. i want a bigger family as i think it’ll be more fun etc. perhaps this is because i feel i dont have enough friends and the additional sibling can close this gap?
i really hope my message made sense. if not, im happy to clarify. aim is to reach a state of mindfulness where im secure about who i am and what i have. i see other people who have similar life experiences to me, but they seem fine.
Thanks in advance!
January 18, 2017 at 8:46 am #125631AnonymousGuestDear cyrus1987:
I see it/ read it again and again: people who feel lonely or otherwise distressed perceive others- inaccurately- as happy, making assumptions that others are living the life!
Social media, Facebook, is not a true representation of reality. A FB page is a collection of still photos, is it not, of people smiling and having a good time. Still photos, meaning you don’t see the people a second after the photo was taken or an hour after. You don’t see the arguments or fights following the smiles and hugs.
And you see bigger families with many siblings and you inaccurately assume the siblings get along, while often the siblings compete for the little available love from the parents, picking on each other.
And then, someone out there reading your post may say: HE is employed! Lucky him… and working in London- I so wish I worked, so wish I worked in London… and he has “many good friends”- that must be a dream of a life..
But no, the title of your thread is “An emotional wreck?!”- so I believe you. Tell me more about your loneliness, the lonely child that you were and how that child-in-you experiences life currently?
anita
January 18, 2017 at 9:04 am #125633cyrusParticipantThanks for the reply Anita.
Perhaps I am inaccurately assuming people are happy and have more friends etc.
well I am quite a social person and always like to be the center-of-attention. for e.g. I would be paranoid if someone doesnt text me, include me in plans or starts befriending people i dont like. i don’t mind “chilling” out by myself but do like feeling important by my friends – not so much by my family. i actually prefer socialising than hanging out with family at times incase i miss out on gossip, making new friends and all that.
I wasn’t a lonely child surprisingly as I always had friends/people around me.
January 18, 2017 at 9:13 am #125634AnonymousGuestDear cyrus1987:
You are welcome. When you were a child and had friends and people around you, who was the center of attention? In your family dynamics, who was/ is the center of attention?
anita
January 18, 2017 at 9:20 am #125636cyrusParticipantI was the center of attention in most situations and even in my family I am. Therefore, not sure why im feeling the insecurity feeling. I guess I like having a group of old friends I can share common memories with. Also I put in a lot of effort with people and people don’t necessarily reciprocate in the same way.
January 18, 2017 at 9:36 am #125637AnonymousGuestDear cyrus1987:
Maybe the problem, the reason you are “an emotional wreck,” is what you do so to be the center of attention; what you did as a child to be the center of attention and what you still do trying to be the center of attention when with other people.
You “put in a lot of effort” with others- what are those efforts?
anita
January 18, 2017 at 10:09 am #125641cyrusParticipantUmm not sure about that. The issue is feeling I don’t have enough friends and childhood friends. I’ve learnt that being the centre of attention is not always good.
Effort as in texting and making plans to meet up.
January 18, 2017 at 10:23 am #125649AnonymousGuestDear cyrus1987:
In your original post you wrote: “i really hope my message made sense. if not, im happy to clarify”-
If you still want to clarify, please answer the following: when you were not the center of attention, as a child, when there were no people around you- and there must have been such times- how was it like for you?
anita
January 18, 2017 at 10:32 am #125651Nina SakuraParticipantHey Cyrus,
Do you mean that you want people in your life, such as friends or a family member like a cousin, sibling whom you are really close to? By close to, I mean someone whom you can open up to, share secrets with, someone who knows you really well for a long time and you can be free with them?
When you see people with childhood friends, you feel like that you have missed that kind of intimacy of long association?
Is that it??
Regards
NinaJanuary 18, 2017 at 11:32 am #125653AnonymousGuestDear cyrus1987:
In trying to correctly understand people and situations, it is important not to make assumptions and then ride on those assumptions without checking. I made the assumption that you being a center of attention, as a child, in the context of your family, was a good thing. And that it is still a good thing.
Now, I think that assumption was incorrect. I am putting together what you shared below:
” (I) want more siblings: i have a younger sister but not sure why i yearn for another sibling, ideally a brother. i want a bigger family…
(I) do like feeling important by my friends – not so much by my family. i actually prefer socialising than hanging out with family…
I’ve learnt that being the centre of attention is not always good…”
I am thinking of this possibility, and if you are reading this, you can evaluate it for accuracy. Again, this is a possibility:
You were the center of attention as a child, in the context of your family, the only son, perhaps. That attention burdened you, creating distress in you, and you longed to have that distress relieved: if only you had a brother, close in age- maybe then the burden would be shared, your parents would divert some attention away from you, to your brother. Better yet, have many siblings, and so less, way less of that burdensome attention.
And so, you are still motivated at 30, to have a sibling. Too late to have one, at least one close to your age, but the motivation is still that of the child that you were.
You were then motivated to have friends, so to be otherwise occupied, occupied outside the context of the family. In the context of family, with your parents, you weren’t able to be free-to-be-a-kid. You longed for it elsewhere. And you still do, looking for friends, for the same reason.
anita
January 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm #125656cyrusParticipant@anita – it felt alright depending on the situation. sometimes i’d be angry and other times, id be OK.
@nina – i have quite a few close friends/family who i can share my problems with. i miss the long association aspect and having a large group of close friends who i can share long term memories with and have fun with in times of wedding etc. currently i have friends from various groups.im having trouble translating my thoughts into words.
January 19, 2017 at 9:50 am #125720Nina SakuraParticipantDear Cyrus,
Long associations form with time. Sometimes they start in adult hood only and within 2-3 years, they become deep provided we spend lot of time with that person.
So perhaps best way for you to get that group of sorts is to build stronger relationships with the friends you already have. Imagine someday you will get married or your kid gets married and they show up. Wouldnt you have a great dwal to remember over the years??
It’s okay to miss some aspects of friendships. Perhaps you have experienced some that many haven’t. Many don’t get to leave the comfort zone of their home towns and experience an international life style. This has both pros and cons as staying in the same place all the time does.
Regards
NinaJanuary 19, 2017 at 4:53 pm #125744XenopusTexParticipantYou are 30. The odds of you getting more siblings are pretty tiny. You can’t really change that either.
As far as moving goes, England has to offer advantages that Pakistan simply can’t. would think that staying in England is a better option.
January 21, 2017 at 9:48 am #125865YoyokParticipantHey! Wow. I’m so glad I found this because I grew up just like you. Always moving countries and making friends and easily saying bye. As a result I don’t have “day ones”.
I think it’s understandable and okay to feel like this. It makes sense although it’s pretty sad when you don’t have that one friend that has been with you.
Other people might seem fine but I personally feel that some people who have grown up moving around a lot just shake it off Better than others.I found your post because I was googling for the same thing. It’s not a nice feeling. I easily make friends but keeping them is the problem.
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