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February 14, 2018 at 11:04 am #192507AshParticipant
Mark,
Thank you for your advice. I am definitely in no position to be entering into any relationship with a man until I am ‘healed’, which will take as long as it needs to.
Anita,
Truth be told, I know very little about him. I have given up trying to understand him, because it was evidently my skewed perception of ‘love’ that kept me involved with such a man. My father has some serious anger and depression issues plus a ‘narcissistic’ personality. Growing up, I was often beat and then almost instantly he would apologise and the cycle would repeat all over again. My parents relationship has always been fractured. Yes, they are still married but my mother is very much subservient. His mood often fluctuates between very loving to completely cold and distant (sounds like the guy I was dating, right?). Due to a very early traumatic sexual experience, I feel like I associated love/affection with sex. Clearly a lot of work needs to be done!
Thanks for reading.
Eliana,
Thank you very much for your kind words. I actually have that prayer written on my mirror! I will definitely look into the 12 step program x
February 14, 2018 at 11:18 am #192511AnonymousGuestDear Ash:
You wrote: “I am definitely in no position to be entering into a relationship with a man until I am ‘healed'”- Why did you place quotation marks around “healed”? Is it that you doubt it is possible?
I am in the process of healing myself, on the healing path as I call it. I don’t know if I have enough time in front of me to heal completely. I doubt it as it may take a hundred years, I don’t know. But healing is taking place.
I do know that it is not possible to heal all the way individually and then enter a relationship all .. healed. There are challenges within a relationship that can be worked on only in the context of a relationship.
Are still exposed to your father’s “fluctuations between very loving and completely cold and distant”, is that still going on, in your life? If so, how are you dealing with that?
anita
February 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm #192559AshParticipantAnita,
I am a Doctor by profession, and have always associated the word ‘healing’ with an illness/disease or wound. Therefore using the word makes me feel as though I am ‘sick’. Difficult concept to explain, but makes sense in my head! RE my father, that is very much still going on. I choose to think of his mood fluctuations as not being within his control, and rather attribute them to a personality disorder. Perhaps not the best way to deal, but it works for me.
February 15, 2018 at 5:04 am #192627AnonymousGuestDear Ash:
There are all kinds of illnesses/ diseases, all kinds of wounds, some visible, others not so visible. And from each one we need to heal.
You wrote earlier: “Growing up, I was often beat and then almost instantly he would apologise and the cycle would repeat all over again”- the little girl that you were, innocent, loving, reaching out for the love of your mother, your father, looking up to him, hoping, that little girl was severely injured (how could she not) when her father, instead of tending to her lovingly, betrayed her trust and beat her up. When he apologized she surely hoped for that love, reached out again, only to be beaten again.
That is injury happening again and again.
You wrote earlier that you “associated love/ affection with sex”- a child will interpret anything resembling love to be love. As I wrote before, a child beaten by a parent ten times a day, if fed once, will consider the feeding to be love. In a similar way, an adult will consider sex to be love.
I hope you post again with your thoughts and feelings.
anita
February 15, 2018 at 5:45 am #192629AshParticipantAnita,
For many years, I actively neglected this aspect of my life and chose not to address it. I always felt as though accepting that I was damaged would make me a victim. In every aspect of my life, I strive to be the best that I can be, almost as though I am constantly trying to prove that I am worthy enough. The way I look in addition to my academic and professional achievements portray me as having the ‘perfect’ life, and prior to this recent experience with this man, that is how I felt. Truth is, I am injured and it will take a lot of work to un-learn my skewed patterns of love and affection.
Your analogy of being beaten and fed resonates deeply with me. I have often found in my relationships with men, I allow them to treat me badly and yet end up being the one who apologises. Each time I go back to them, I go with the hope that things will be different this time, but they never are. In fact, I could list every one of my previous relationships and in each situation, I am that little girl seeking affection, being beaten, and letting the cycle repeat again.
Perhaps I am also drawn to wounded men because from a very early age, I was the ‘protector’ for my mother during my father’s angry episodes. I take it upon myself to look after people, but neglect my own care. I’d like your thoughts about this?
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
February 15, 2018 at 6:22 am #192635AnonymousGuestDear Ash:
You are welcome. About being “drawn to wounded men”- at this point in my learning, I don’t know if there is any other kind of men, or women, the un-wounded kind. Probably are, I just don’t know any, personally.
You wrote that you took it upon yourself, as a child, to protect your mother from your father’s angry episodes. I wonder how you attempted that at the time, if you succeeded somehow, if your mother noticed, if she ever thanked you for trying…?
I think that when your father had his angry episodes, attacking your mother, attacking you, you were scared and naturally tried to fix it, to make your experience safe, or as safe as possible, so that you will survive. A child can not consider surviving without her mother, so you tried to protect her, so that she will make your survival possible.
I wonder (wondering, again) if you tried to… fix your father, and how?
anita
February 15, 2018 at 6:58 am #192637AshParticipantAnita,
I tried several different tactics. When I was much younger, I would argue back with him and stand in the way if he tried to hit her, which in turn would result in me receiving the beating. My mother resented me for doing this, she often told me that my involvement made things infinitely worse between them. At other times, she would confide in me about the state of their relationship and I was expected to offer a solution (this started around the age of 7 and still continues more than 20 years on). I tried many times to ‘fix’ my father, and up until recently still believed that he could be fixed. I now realise that only he could make the active decision to change, nothing I can say or do will make a difference. I’ve tried to come to terms with the fact that people’s actions are about them, and not me. It’s difficult to keep perspective when you’re intimately involved with someone.
I realise a lot of my discomfort about the situation RE the man I was dating, is coming from a place of humiliation and shame. I feel horrified that I allowed myself to be so used and disrespected. However, I know where I need to go from here.
Thank you.
February 15, 2018 at 7:13 am #192639AnonymousGuestDear Ash:
You are welcome. I have no doubt that you tried the best you could, did all that was in your ability to do, to protect your mother, to help her. Any failure to produce the help she needed, the changes you needed, does not indicate inadequacy on your part. It indicates the impossibility of a child fixing her parents.
I hope you will leave shame behind as soon as is possible for you. And I am glad you know where to g0 from here.
anita
February 15, 2018 at 8:27 am #192655AshParticipantThank you for your support Anita. It is deeply appreciated.
February 15, 2018 at 8:40 am #192665AnonymousGuestYou are welcome, Ash. Anytime.
anita
February 15, 2018 at 8:50 am #192671MarkParticipantAsh,
I agree with anita about not needing to heal completely in order to be in relationship again. I believe it is through relationships we learn the most of ourselves and get a chance to heal through our interactions. We get challenged. We have opportunity for more self awareness. We get to practice healthier behaviors and do something different this time around.
But first and foremost we need to develop our inner resources so that we can go back out into the world without inflicting upon ourselves harm that we are not quite strong enough to withstand. This is self love, developing a support safety net of people, and ways of nurturing ourselves, strengthening our emotional resiliency, bringing awareness to what is healthy and what is not like having boundaries.
Best,
MarkFebruary 15, 2018 at 11:57 am #192723Chris GutierrezParticipantI hope your not broken any more. Got help. I hope you meditated a little. That’s get’s happy again.
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