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  • #92257
    Shelly
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    Anita,I forgot to say that I did speak to him about me wanting to be his number one and to be cared for.That I am possesive over him because I have had people leave me etc. To be honest,looking back,he couldn’t have done any more to make me feel his total priority,totally secure and loved. Moving into another relationship at some point I just don’t know how I can progress from that.I was told daily that I was attractive,that he was never going to leave,that there was nothing we couldn’t get through..he never left me when we were around people,he put me on a pedastal..I have totally abused his love and pushed him away.He deserved so much better than how I treated him xx

    #92260
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    I understand that he told you all those things but when we have a strong voice in our brain telling us otherwise, we don’t hear what another is saying… or we hear, but then, we check and look and we soon find a “proof” that after all we are not number one. As in: “If I was number one, then he would not be doing this or that…”

    When I mentioned healing, I was referring to those voices that spoke louder than him.

    If you want, you can let that louder voice speak here….

    Problem is, this is not a psychotherapy situation and feelings may come up, so if you try this and feel distressed, overwhelmed, back off from the effort. You can only do what you can handle emotionally at any time…

    If you can, for as much as you can… Till later:

    anita

    #93398
    Shelly
    Participant

    I’m a month in to this break up now but still feel bitter. This man said he would make me fall in love with him,did everything possible to be the best boyfriend. Met me after work,during my lunch hour,helped me with my house,with my daughters etc etc and I feel like he pushed me to rely on him. Even my daughter pointed out over xmas that he didn’t really allow me to have a voice or opinion. Was it my fault that I allowed this? Now he has disappeared from my life I am so lost and am struggling to get back my independance!I felt so smothered at the beginning and I guess I adjusted or just gave in.
    Is it reasonable to give him some blame or is it all my own doing! I was doing so well before he came along,I didn’t rely on anyone for anything!

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by Shelly.
    #93403
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    Good to get an post by you, 11 days after the last but sorry you are in low spirits. I read a post earlier on this page where you wrote: “I was told daily that I was attractive,that he was never going to leave,that there was nothing we couldn’t get through..” I wish he didn’t say that to you because he did leave you and there was something you couldn’t get through. I can see by this quote alone that he was not perfect. So no, it was not all your fault, of course not. And you wrote above that you were doing so well before he came along… so there is more to the story then ….we both thought there was. Only that the story ended and we can only learn about it retroactively, looking back, as you are doing. And that is fine, lessons to be learned for better functioning in the future.

    You had your own issues in that relationship, the jealousy, possessiveness we talked about at length and we were both focused on that but no doubt, there were issues on his end that you, being there, didn’t see at the time because you were focused elsewhere. You are now feeling bitter, a month since the break, probably because there is something to be seen about what happened.

    The fact that he was such a devoted boyfriend, going out of his way to be there for you and telling you that he will never leave you no matter what is a bit too much… and it proved to be “too good to be true” because he did leave you. So him being the most devoted boyfriend and declaring he will always be with you was a bit empty. It was fueled by his motivations, maybe to be “the good guy”- I don’t know- but what is obvious, is that his dedication was not based on his own reality but on some kind of a mixture of reality and wishful thinking or pretense or the way he presents itself that is not adequately authentic.

    What do you think?

    anita

    #93541
    Shelly
    Participant

    Thankyou Anita you make so much sense. I have put an email together for him but I’m not sure if I should send it. I had to get it off my chest how dismissed I feel and cast aside,how I feel he made empty promises and that he wasn’t truthful with me. He talks over me,allows me little opinon and I thought it was a way that he would have to listen and realise he has actually done some damage.Am I being too harsh towards him?should I just try to let my anger and bitterness go?
    Thanks so much again for all your support,you have helped me so much xx

    #93554
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    If I was you, I would write to him that he broke his promises to you and that (as far as I know) he did not even talk to you about going back on his promises. I wonder if he makes promises to his kids and does not keep those. It is wrong to not keep a promise to a child and it is wrong to do the same to an adult.

    Like I wrote before, just because you were not perfect, in no way means he was! Something to remember…

    Writing to him is okay, I think, as long as you have no expectations that anything will come of it. But how can it possibly hurt (if you have no expectations), at least you have a say in what matters to you.

    If you want to write the first draft or so here, you are welcome. Make it short and don’t go on and on about any point. And you are welcome!

    anita

    #93594
    Shelly
    Participant

    How does this sound? X
    I feel I’ve had to write you this email because you never allow me to finish what I say,you talk over me and don’t allow me to have my own opinion.
    I’m hurt and bitter because you gave me empty promises. You weren’t truthful in many ways also.you have dismissed me and cast me aside now,that isn’t the behaviour of someone who had genuine care and feelings for me!
    You say you are still angry with me! You dwell on things far too long! I didn’t physically or mental hurt your daughter,she wasn’t even fussed whether I made it to see her or not,I will not carry that gulit around with me.

    Sent from my iPad

    #93603
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    I would add to your note right after “I’m hurt and bitter because you gave me empty promises”- here I would specify the promises, what they were word by word if you can, list them: You promised me this: “…” and this: “…” repeatedly (if you can remember how many times or where and when, state it shortly.

    Second input: I would delete the last two lines, from: “You say you are still angry with me!” to the end. Maybe you can re-write it, but don’t tell him he dwells far too long on anything, that is unfair criticism… something you probably do too! Also, maybe just stick to the two points you made: that he never allowed you to finish what you say (never, or often?) and that he broke his promises. More points made may take away from the power of the first two points, each of which is very significant.

    anita

    #93920
    Shelly
    Participant

    Anita,thankyou so so much for all your help and support,I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it.
    I didn’t send the email in the end,i wanted to sit on it for a couple of days before I did.
    Out of the blue he has been texting loads saying he’s missing me and can we make it work!?! Total shock,I was mot expecting that. He’s asked me to meet him on friday! I would have A LOT of changing to do!! Really don’t know if I can do it! I’ve been looking at mindfullness videos,maybe if I could just relax more that could help with my jealousy and possesiveness!! Not sure if I want something full on again for now either! Just getting over my heartbreak! Do I want to go through it all again! Xx

    #93952
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    As I just read your post about him emailing you, I got excited myself, positively excited and hopeful. That was my automatic reaction, and looking at your post I sense you are excited as well! Elated and hopeful!!!

    Okay, this is an opportunity. I see you are willing but are cautious. If this thread is helpful, could be helpful to you, I would like to be here for you in what is to come. Excitement is good but for best thinking, of course, calmness is necessary. I suppose this is why you looked at Mindfulness videos. Friday, this is the day after tomorrow. Some preparing to do?

    First, I wouldn’t fight my feelings of excitement and hope and I will share those with him. Be real with him, honest and expect him to be the same. So do not add to your distress trying to hide your real feelings. It is okay to be excited and hopeful, and scared all at the same time. And realistically, solving problems of past relationship with him, problems brought into the relationship by both (!) parties: you and him- these problems cannot be solved before you see him and they cannot be solved on Friday! It will take willingness, honest communication, awareness of what is going on with you… and with him, and over time, solutions are possible.

    Post anytime!

    anita

    #95090
    Shelly
    Participant

    He didn’t turn up,contact me or anything! He is now hostile towards me and has no time for me.
    I accept it’s over but I am so shocked how someones feeling can change so dramatically in such a short time.
    I am so annoyed at myself for not putting in more effort and the 110% he put into us.The massive regret I will have in life!
    Anita,you have truelly been my lifeline in all this,thankyou so much for allowing me to vent. You have supported me so much and I can’t tell you how much I have appreciated it xx

    #95091
    Mugdha
    Participant

    Hey shelly, first of all calm down ,you are a lucky person who got such a wonderful guy who understands you, loves you and tries to please you. Don’t ruin your relationship b’coz of negative thoughts and feelings(jealousy, possessiveness).keep trust on him, on your relationship it will work or go ahead whether in good and bad situations.Rather being jealous or feeling socially awkward try to get involve with his daughter,family,friends,attain social functions etc.

    shelly, you can change everything depends upon your thinking and your feelings.

    Mugdha

    #95103
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    You are welcome and thank you for the update! It seems like it is over. I definitely don’t trust the guy anymore, that is his 1/27 emotional outburst (the word that comes to mind) has proven untrustworthy… again. Again, he said that the two of you can work it out and again, he did not follow through. I am thinking he is quite emotional and unclear in his own mind. That is a shame.

    Appearances often do not tell the whole story. When people read your original posts on this thread and the regret you expressed in your very last post, they are likely to think (as I have) that indeed he is a wonderful guy. But over time, this view is or should be adjusted to the new information coming in.

    Maybe you should start a new thread with an original post that will describe him and the relationship with him in a more realistic, balanced way so to reflect ALL the information about who he is, who you are and what was…?

    anita

    #95266
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shelly:

    How are you?

    anita

    #95293
    Shelly
    Participant

    Thankyou Anita for asking.
    I’m doing really well. I am staying busy and positive.This forum helps me daily look forward.
    I’m so sad about my break up,I adored him and loved him with all my heart but I am now excited about my future.
    I have no family here and only a small group of friends,your help has really been a lifesaver.
    Thankyou so much xx

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