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    Chelcie
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    Hello, my name is Chelcie, I am 27 years old and I work as a Project Manager for a nonprofit. I love what I do, however, the organization is going through a number changes and my job is currently not certain. Backing up just a little bit I was in a year and a half long relationship with an amazing person and we are still friends. We broke up because the relationship was not healthy. I too heavily dependent on him for my worth and that is way too much for one person to take on. Don’t get me wrong he had his issue as well but I don’t fill comfortable discussing his issues without his permission. We are currently on a break so that we can figure out who are as people separately and so we can come back together as 2 people that compliment each other and not a giant morph of one person. Also a few months ago we I had an awakening of sorts, I was a devote Christian or so I thought for 10 years. You know, Go to church every Sunday etc. After many years of doubting what I believed the lid finally popped off the can. I finally had to admit to myself that I don’t believe in every word that is written in the bible.It took a lot of guts for me to get up and walk away and really finally be honest with myself. I feel that a lot of people that I consider friends left me because I decided to be honest with myself. I had to really fight hard to not want to please those people and go back. Because I knew going back would just be for them and not for me. Which, I also struggle with, I want to make sure that everyone is okay with what I am doing before I go and do it. So truly very few things were my choice. Now all of this happened within a 3 month time period so you can imagine that my emotions are everywhere. I guess I’m writing this post because I am need of friends and support in general.

    #155508
    Anonymous
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    Dear Chelcie:

    Three major developments in your life within the last few months:

    1. The nonprofit organization you are working for is going through some changes and your job which you love is uncertain, you may lose it.

    2. Your relationship of a year and a half is on a mutually agreed-on break. The goal of the break is to “figure out who are as people separately and so we can come back together as 2 people that compliment each other and not a giant morph of one person.”

    3. After ten years of going to church, being a Christian, following a few years of doubting the beliefs, you walk away from church, lost friend there as a result.

    Regarding #1, your job, I hope the organization stabilizes with your job in it. If there is nothing you can do to stabilize the organization, if it is out of your control, I hope you can let go of worrying about it (one moment, one day at a time). I am not at all religious but I like this part of the serenity prayer: “grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change”- and it applies here, doesn’t it?

    Regarding #2, your relationship. There is a goal to the breakup, which you stated very clearly. Congratulations for making the right choice, taking a break from an unhealthy relationship while acknowledging that the two individuals in it, I understand, are basically good people who need to learn to interact differently so to make the relationship healthy.

    Interestingly, achieving this goal has a lot to do with #3. There you wrote: that you had to “fight hard to not want to please those people… going back would just be for them and not for me. ..I want to make sure that everyone is okay with what I am doing before I go and do it. So truly very few things were my choice.”-

    Relationships need to be Win-Win relationships, if they are not, long term, both parties lose. When you neglect yourself in a relationship, focusing on the well being of the other person at your expense, part of you is not okay with that, and that part is going to act against the relationship, maybe in passive-aggressive ways or otherwise. When you act for your own well being while checking with the other, so it is a win-win, then you act for the relationship, not against it.

    If/ when you re-start the relationship, there will need to be ongoing communication between the two of you as issues come up, as choices need to be made, small choices as well as big choices. Every choice to be made, from where to meet, at what time, will be an opportunity for the two of you to practice the Win-Win principle. When you re-start, the tendency will be to continue as before. It will take clear intention to do things differently and then communicate clearly and effectively as you practice the change. It will not be automatic, therefore, not easy. It will be intentional and difficult, at times, at least.

    No matter how much you prepare individually, before re-starting the relationship, the work will need to be done in the context of the relationship.

    Regarding #3: again, congratulations for doing the right thing for you. It is difficult and undesirable to act against one’s beliefs, to doubt and to pretend not to doubt, so you did the right thing for you. But you also did the right thing for others in the church, giving them the opportunity to know who they are friends with and re-evaluating their choice. You also showed other members in church, who may have doubts, that there is a way to resolve those doubts that is authentic to oneself. Here too relationships need to be Win-Win. Or not be.

    “What to hold on to” is in the title of your thread. I would say: hold on to the truth, that you do not believe in Christianity, that you need to continue to be honest with yourself, that relationships everywhere need to be Win-Win.

    At times of great changes, people need social support because we are by nature social beings. And you realize this is what you need: “I am need of friends and support in general”- a friend who is supportive, maybe a support group for people who left their church, here on this thread (I will reply every time you post)… and if and when you are ready to start the work on the Win-Win relationship with your boyfriend, then maybe he can be that support. I believe, again, that there is no way to prepare and then proceed with a healthy relationship based on the preparation before, the work has to be done regardless during the relationship. It is like cooking, you can’t prepare a meal and get better at it unless you are in the kitchen.

    anita

     

    #155514
    Chelcie
    Participant

    Thank you for your response. I do want to mention that within the context of our relationship as stated before we had other issues that needed to be dealt with. I am in counseling now and so is he. We had tried in the past with trying to act as two separate people but because we hadn’t dealt with our past hurts and past issues we could not continue. We did not have the tools to do so. So, I know that we made the best choice for us. I understand what you mean by “that there is no way to prepare and then proceed with a healthy relationship based on the preparation before.” However, I disagree I know that within the context of the relationship we will have to fight, and wrestle and learn and love each other but, without the tools to do so it becomes and unhealthy and hurtful. Though both my ex and I love each other to the moon in back being together right now, love, within itself couldn’t help us. So taking a step back and solely focusing on me and my needs and what i want will allow me to better communicate with him to make this a more healthy relationship. Being frustrated and not understanding why I am frustrated doesn’t help him. All he knows is I’m  frustrated and that’s it. I need to be in better tune with my emotions and why I do things and how I can recognize when the negative thoughts take control and I go 0 to 100. So though we are on a break we still communicate on regular basis and talk about or hopes and our dreams and fears and things that we have learned about each other via our counseling session and etc. Though it may not make sense to all why we are doing this, it makes sense to us why we do it, and to me, that is all that matters.

    #155520
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chelcie:

    Like I wrote to you in my previous post: “Regarding #2, your relationship… Congratulations for making the right choice” that is the break. So I don’t see where we disagree. I think that a break is a good idea AND if and when you restart the girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, there will be work to do and tools to use in that work.

    It is a good thing that you are both in counseling, individually. Post again, anytime.

    anita

    #155522
    Chelcie
    Participant

    I am so sorry, I after re-reading the post, post coffee intake I now understand where you are coming form. Thank you for reaching out.

    #155538
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Chelcie:

    You are welcome. The magical  power of coffee!

    To add to # 3 above, I have experience with Born Again Christians, was a regular attendant at church long ago, involved with people, what a delight it was to feel belonging to a group  of people, to feel accepted, when before I was lonely. I had to leave as well because I didn’t believe in the major core beliefs of Christianity, and I too lost that social support. Later on I was befriended by a Jehovah Witness woman who was delightful. Again, the price for that friendship was to believe her way. A price too heavy to pay, but we pay it if and when we are desperate enough. I am glad to state: I currently pay no such price and glad that I don’t!

    Again, post anytime.

    anita

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