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May 27, 2016 at 7:09 am #105783AnonymousGuest
Dear Ravi:
I didn’t know of your schedule: a morning walk early is a good thing. And I didn’t know you attended classes, I thought you were studying independently the whole time. Relax as much as you can, Ravi. I think your love for Jerry keeps you… human and in so is a positive thing. This is why I mentioned her in the last post. If you can, feel that love but don’t ruminate about past events and what-ifs. This way, your love for her can be fuel for your survival and for you doing the best you can for and during this exam. Relax best you can.
anita
May 27, 2016 at 10:39 am #105804ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYup I like to go out on a morning walk with dad during summers. We have a pretty large public garden around 1-2 km from my place, and it’s relaxing to take an hour’s worth of strolls there. Also provides a good opportunity for me to discuss about my future studies and plans with dad. The classes I’m presently attending are just part time for chemistry, and there are just two more guys there apart from me. Not really a break from the monotony.
Regarding Jerry… apart from the love I also feel a mixture of anger, frustration and despair from time to time. Sometimes I feel angry at her and her sister, her cousin also and thoughts like “losing her is better than living in that cousin’s shadow” arise in my mind. Somehow it feels like these negative feelings don’t belong in my heart, but they arise anyway. At other times I just wish we’re reunited by any means possible. I wish my brain were like a hard disk, I could just format it and erase all these memories permanently. But it’s impossible.
May 27, 2016 at 11:05 am #105805AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I like your morning walks with your father. I wish you could have another walk in the evenings but it is probably way too hot. And I wish there was only love in your heart for Jerry so that it could be nothing but comfort for you. If there is more distress than comfort then thinking about her is not a good idea, if you could control your thinking, even partially. I would like it if thinking about her was a “good place” for your mind to go to, for refuge, a place to take a deep,. fresh breath.
And until your brain can be like a hard disk (I know, impossible), work with it. Make it reality- compatible and work with what is.
And do post anytime. Take good care of you, best you can in your circumstances.
anita
May 27, 2016 at 11:08 am #105806AnonymousGuest* And by the way, your thread is the second thread on tiny buddha that passed the 300 posts mark. Congratulations (I find it meaningful for some reason… over 300 posts!)
anita
May 27, 2016 at 7:02 pm #105822ravi_zimmerfanParticipantNo time for walks in the evening, because I come home late and anyway there’s too much traffic and pollution at that time. I too wish I had only positive emotions in my heart. I just don’t understand where all this bitterness, anger and bile is now coming from. I keep mulling over her and her sister’s words in my head and keep fantasizing about what more violent replies I should’ve given them, and then I’m reminded of our fond memories and abruptly all the negativity vanishes and I pray we’re just reunited somehow. My blood boils at the thought of her cousin, even though his only fault is… loving his sister? I don’t know what’s wrong with me. I almost scream at my brain to just shut up and stop thinking anything for some time, give me a damn break from everything. But it doesn’t work. I’ve been trying to meditate but failing miserably.
Great to know about the thread. 🙂
May 27, 2016 at 7:20 pm #105823AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Walks in the evening- not a good idea, with the pollution. “what’s wrong with me”- you wrote. Well, let me remind you what’s wrong: you have an incredibly annoying grandmother, for one. You have no friends, no social life, no girlfriend. You don’t go anywhere other than a walk per day and the library. Your distress has been up for a long, long time causing you physical symptoms and ailments.
When distressed the brain does get over active, this is but one of the symptoms of distress (OCD is just that). So, that’s what’s wrong.
You are angry at her cousin and then you crticise yourself for being angry at him because he didn’t do anything wrong. The point is though that you are understandably angry, so it has to attach itself so someone. The anger itself is understandable (in the tiger in the cage analogy, the tiger will be angry at anyone entering its vision).
Be kind with yourself, please. Your living circumstances are very difficult- not congruent with well being, so expect distress, anger, and don’t judge yourself for your anger and distress. ANYONE and everyone in your circumstances would be angry and distressed.
anita
May 28, 2016 at 6:10 am #105837humourParticipantHi Ravi,
I am sorry that you are going through so much misery. If you think of someone as your soulmate and if things don’t go your way it can feel horrible. In spite of the emotional anguish you are going through, its commendable that you got shortlisted in the first round of your exams. I am glad that you have your dad by your side to discuss your studies, plans and to love and care for, mutually. Do you think it would be wise to tell him about Jerry, even if not in depth, just casually? In some cases a loved ones words can provide immense solace to the heart. If you are just trying breath meditation, it can be tough especially when the mind is in autopilot mode feeling too many emotions. Guided meditation could help initially and there could be several on youtube or some meditation apps and you can choose a specific one. Since you articulate your thoughts so well, maybe you think of making some quick bucks by writing to a local newspaper or if you can find some online space to do so. This maybe a bad idea if it interferes with your studies, but from your posts I can see that it comes quite naturally to you and you have also mentioned that you are an avid reader. Even if not for money, just to de-stress and to explore the genres you might be interested in writing and to see if it could take you further in any way. Just a thought. Take care.May 28, 2016 at 6:47 am #105841ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThanks for the kind words, Anita. I know that the situation is causing all these negative things to arise within me. Sort of like, an empty mind is the devil’s workshop. I have nothing to think about except studies, studies and more studies now, and I just stress over everything that happened. On the other hand, the subjects of my anger are happily going about their lives as though nothing ever happened. I’m the only one causing myself stress and torture. At least after tomorrow’s exam, I’m writing a small emotional story for her birthday and will ask my friend to give it to her. If that does not touch her now seemingly petrified heart, I don’t know what will.
Regarding friends, I actually have made a good friend in the library last month who talks very nicely and also helps me a lot with studies. At least I’m able to spend time with him and go out a little bit at times, so it’s something good.
May 28, 2016 at 9:20 am #105842AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Made me smile, your sense of humor, that is: “if that does not touch her now seemingly petrified heart, I don’t know what will.”
Very glad you made a friend in the library, very glad!
I just had a talk about the nature, our nature as human beings, we are primarily instinctual and emotional. Our logical part is a much later part in our evolutionary process, from the very first living things on this planet. And you are an example of all of us humans, we are not logical robots. We are very much emotional beings. It is not … logical to see ourselves as strictly logical creatures. We simply don’t operate this way, cannot operate this way, and never will, not as humans.
Did you see the post earlier today by another member, right above? You may have missed it.
Take good care of your instinctual, emotional person that you are!
anita
May 28, 2016 at 9:23 pm #105883ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI actually wrote that out of disappointment with her. But good to know I’ve not lost my humour fully still. 😛 Yup that’s very true. Unfortunate thing is, despite knowing the rationale behind it, the torrent of emotions is so overwhelming that they make me succumb to it. When I feel angry or jealous, I’m able to think “I’m feeling this due to the primitive instincts wired into our brain during evolution” for example, but it’s not able to prevent me from losing my temper. Feels quite ironical.
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May 28, 2016 at 9:28 pm #105886ravi_zimmerfanParticipantHumor – Thank you so much for your kind words, once again. 🙂 I’m sorry, I missed your post yesterday somehow. Regarding Jerry… I’m hesitant to tell my parents the full thing, though they know the general idea that I’m suffering from a breakup with someone very dear to me. I’ll see whether I can write anything in the future after exams. Presently I’m just trying to write a story for Jerry on her birthday. At least that way my conscience doesn’t berate me for not doing my best to mend our relationship.
May 29, 2016 at 8:15 am #105894AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I think you have an exam today, Sunday (your time yesterday…?)
Logic vs Emotion- the conflict, but shouldn’t be because it is logical to understand our emotions and integrate them into our choices. There is a logical message behind every emotion and we have to listen to that message. If we try to lead logical lives based on logic alone, it is not going to work because we are after all, not robots, not machines. Most of what happens in families and in the world is motivated by emotion. This is why there is so much crime, corruption, destruction and waste in the world.
I think often it is people trying to ignore their emotions that explode with emotions, doing something destructive. Whenever you feel something, don;t condemn the feeling, announcing it: bad feeling. No, instead listen attentively to what the emotion is trying to tell you, underneath the messsage on the surface and then, do something about it.
anita
June 1, 2016 at 6:23 am #106182ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYes Anita, the exam went alright. Not as good as expected, but could’ve been worse. Sorry I wanted to post here, but was just not in a mood to open the laptop. And yup, agreed about the message behind emotions.
I feel increasingly frustrated because people just consider Jerry an obstacle in my life, an obstacle to the only thing I apparently am living for – study, study and more study. I feel ok when I am around with people, anybody at all. But once I am alone, the depression strikes back like a tornado. I cried alone again yesterday when I thought of her, how she used to send sweet messages like “Hello bro, had lunch? How are you feeling? I was so worried when I heard that you had stomach pain… come on FB when you have time. I love you too… I promise I’ll be there with you always.” But she’s not… and it’s all because of me. I’m a good for nothing piece of dirt who treated her like an animal and did not value her love. No wonder she and her sister now consider me a monster and a danger to mankind. I’m sorry… I tried my best not to delve into the self-bashing but my conscience will never ever forgive me for destroying the most beautiful relationship I was ever blessed with. If only I was not greedy to want her as more than a sister, she would still be with me. My heart screams with pain at that thought.
June 1, 2016 at 6:42 am #106184AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
i am not surprised your incorrect thinking is back as expressed in your last post. It happens when strong emotions steer with no resolution. So here is the correct thinking (a reminder): You are a worthy man, a good and loving man. Anyone in your life circumstances would be angry and distressed. You are human, nothing outside human.
And here is an amazing distortion of thinking, you wrote above: “I…did not value her love”- you valued whatever loving sentiment she expressed to you more than life itself and you still do. You are, if anything, over valuing her love, so much so that you still bring up her messages to you.
She and her sister considered you … inappropriate because of their delusions that a man can limit himself to brotherly love. It is their delusion, their distorted thinking, not yours.
You were not greedy for wanting her as more than a sister. Only human.
Regarding Jerry being an obstacle in your life, it is the misery you are experiencing that is the obstacle, the self bashing.
Your distress is real and understandable. Express it here. Express your pain, your sadness, anger, in words, right there anytime.
anita
June 1, 2016 at 9:53 am #106207ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThanks Anita for the kind words. I know we both are at fault in different ways, but I cannot forget how I hurt her saying those horrible things like “may your tongue rot”. Though I know we would have patched up by now if that were the sole issue… I do not know how to make her understand that what she’s doing is wrong. She’s calmly going about her life with no regrets, so is her sister and my friends and everyone else… I’m the only one being stabbed day and night by guilt and love. If only we could be reunited by some miracle, I swear I’ll wish for nothing else in my life.
I don’t know how to maintain momentum in my studies until the July 24 exam. Life has become so monotonous and depressing that I no longer am enjoying music, films, books or anything else that I used to love. I don’t feel like doing anything except wasting myself away locked in my room. And yet I know I’m just screwing my life if I do that… so as usual I need to put aside my emotions and continue to study. My schoolmates are all settled with great jobs, quite a few are married with children, one guy has risen to become a singing sensation all over India and his posters are all over our city. And here am I, doing nothing but studying for premedical fruitlessly from 2007 and going about various wild goose chases, locked up in my room with a huge paunch and short temper. It’s so depressing.
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