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March 26, 2016 at 12:02 pm #100162AnonymousGuest
Dear Ravi:
Isn’t there a door you can close so you have privacy in your room? After all, it’s not your room if there is no door you can keep closed.
We agree then, that there are separate issues here.
Study then until May. Be a studying Zombie. Better if you were a “bright eyed and bushy tailed” student, eager to learn, awake, happy and motivated, but this is not the case. You have to deal with What Is, not what is not so.
So study, Ravi. And post here anytime so to express your emotions. I will listen and give you feedback without advice about other topics, focusing on your goal of passing and doing well on the May exams.
Let us put all other issues aside, the best you can. One aim at a time. There is hope and promise to your life, only not all at once.
anita
March 26, 2016 at 12:15 pm #100163ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThere’s a door, yes. But they come in to check sometimes if I’m studying or wasting time (the computer and all are in the same room). I don’t like keeping it locked as I go out once in a while to get fresh air. I guess if I really have to pursue my goal to qualify the exams, then it’s not so much of an issue. I’ve already wasted two months due to my possessiveness issue, which was far less critical then what I’m facing now. I dunno how to make up all the pending work in just about a month. On top of it I have no motivation to study, I just keep brooding over the same issue and hating myself. I hope working hard until exams and working on improving myself can at least be some penace for my evil behaviour.
Thanks a lot for the support, Anita. Really means more to me than I can express.
March 26, 2016 at 12:28 pm #100164AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
You are welcome. You deserve my support, Ravi. You are a good young man. You know I wouldn’t state this if I didn’t believe it, don’t you? You are a good man. And I believe Jerry knew it and still knows it. Some of your behavior was wrong. Nothing unforgivable, not as far as I am concerned. I mean it! So let go of this “I am evil” brooding. You are not evil.
You are a good young man and you have good values. Please do not argue with this…!
Tell your mother, father, grandmother, to knock and wait for your permission before entering. Take charge in this way: tell them what you need them to do and not to do so that you do your best studying.
I encourage your studying because this is what you want to do.
So study. Maybe you won’t make it, but do what you can do. Be a … hero in your own life, Ravi. Be someone you look up to. Do so by focusing now on your studies, and doing what you can to make up the time. Be as calm as you can while studying. It is possible to study and pass exams as a Zombie, depressed and not motivated. It takes being a hero in your own life to do what needs to be done, what you choose to do, whether you feel like it or not.
anita
March 26, 2016 at 12:41 pm #100166ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI cannot think that much about myself, but thanks a lot Anita. I do hope I will be able to live up to that, at least. I know Jerry believes so too… otherwise she would not have put up with my deeds for so long. Even now, she did say she’s not ending our relation. I wish that along with our studies, I’ll be able to continue my effort to eliminate my negative qualities and change myself for the better. Only after I am able to earn the right to be with her again, and hopefully do these exams well, can I consider myself a hero in my own life.
Speaking of my grandmother, I was just thinking how my anger stems from being overprotected in childhood and I began feeling angry just seeing her eating something. Thoughts like, “yeah keep eating while here my life is getting ruined due to what I was taught” kept popping up. I really don’t like being like this either.
March 26, 2016 at 12:59 pm #100167AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Taking a break for now. What popped out in your head about your grandmother is unfortunately quite true. Reality is often mind boggling, incredible, wish it wasn’t true. But if your thinking is not aligned with reality, the price to pay is way too high. So however unpleasant reality is, it is better for you to see it as it is.
Till later, take care. Have faith in yourself, I do!
anita
March 26, 2016 at 7:30 pm #100185ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI know. Last night, her health suddenly deteriorated and I was so worried. I’m trying to focus on studies, but both these issues bog down my mind and it’s proving to be so hard. It’s almost like everything bad is happening at once this year and I’m finding it unbearable to handle all together. 🙁
March 26, 2016 at 7:42 pm #100187AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I just remembered what you recently shared, how your mother (was it?) who got very angry at a teacher who punished you by having you stand for 30 minutes. She was angry that you had to stand on your weak legs, remember?
Prove her wrong, prove all of them wrong, that you are not weak. Sure you are scared and sad and tired, but you are not weak. Study regardless of how you feel. Be patient and gentle and firm with yourself, all three. Firm means you do what needs to be done, and studying is what needs to be done because it is your goal to get into medical school. So do what you need to do, no matter what is happening around you.
anita
March 26, 2016 at 8:09 pm #100190ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI had said that as a kind of hypothetical example. There were some instances of punishment, some of them involving flogging and others being milder stuff like being made to stand until the bell rang, detention, writing lines etc. In every case, my family rarely emphasized enough on the reason behind my punishment, rather they were concerned about the discomfort I had to endure. Naturally that made me feel vulnerable and delicate.
I’m a weak person, honestly. At least emotionally very much so. Firstly, I really don’t feel an emotionally and mentally strong and confident person would ever hurt their loved ones with such bad words, get offended on imaginary insults or lose their temper on small incidents. Secondly, despite being a 26 year old male I am not able to hold back my tears in these moments. I’m not saying crying is for the weak, but even by that standards I just get emotional too quickly. Right now on hearing any emotional song or piece of music, it is only Jerry I can think about. Her smile comes up in front of my eyes, I can hear her laugh in my head, I see her sweet “Hiii bro” messages in my mind’s eye and I get this terrible crushing sensation in my chest and am not able to hold back my sob. I need to immediately put on some aggressive music on headphones to mask the emotional tune, otherwise I cannot survive. I don’t know how to focus on studies in such a condition.
March 27, 2016 at 8:41 am #100195AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Unfortunately for you, your family gave you the message that discomfort is a terrible, terrible thing that you may not be capable of surviving. This is a powerful message. The discomfort they tried to protect you from is physical discomfort as in standing for a long time and being hungry.
Problem is that there is such a thing as emotional discomfort. And your family has been doing their best, in various ways, to increase it. And they do not comfort you when you experience that kind of discomfort.
There is a concept taught in psychotherapy called “emotional regulation.” It is part of teaching the patient/ client to endure emotional discomfort. When you wrote in the last sentence above: “I cannot survive (the “terrible crushing sensation in my chest…)” It means you feel that emotional discomfort is dangerous and you don’t have the ability to endure and survive it.
One of the skills taught in psychotherapy is to sit there, notice the “crushing sensation in (your) chest”, focus on it and observe it: how it feels, how it changes… and it does change, eventually it becomes weaker and goes away. As you notice this, you learn that you can survive it, that the uncomfortable sensation is not dangerous.
This way you learn strength. You wrote that you are a weak person. No wonder you are, and no wonder because you were taught that discomfort is such a terrible thing that should be avoided no matter what because you can’t endure it.
When you learn that you can endure it and that indeed (physical and emotional) discomfort does not last forever, that it is not dangerous (If it was dangerous you would have died many times over, wouldn’t you?), then you build strength, that is, the faith in you being capable to endure and survive the discomfort and function well enough in your daily life with the discomfort.l
These very days for you, is an opportunity to observe the discomfort, to notice it is not dangerous, only uncomfortable (as intensely uncomfortable as it is), and function well enough in spite of it.
For your own best interest, develop this skill of emotional regulation. You will build strength and nothing will be more exhilarating than when you realize you are indeed strong.
anita
March 27, 2016 at 9:24 am #100196ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYou’re right Anita. Growing up in an incubated environment means that I have no skills to handle discomfort. Truthfully speaking, physical pain I can handle, at least I had some experience in that regard (not that I invite it). But emotional pain overwhelms me. Obviously being brought up as though I’m a delicate flower that will wither upon the slightest touch of a dewdrop doesn’t do much to boost my self-confidence. But more than that, it’s also true that I have never loved someone to the extent that I love Jerry. Not to mention my guilt for being the monster I was/am. I’m someone who still can’t hold back tears during that infamous scene in Lion King. You can imagine how badly this present situation is affecting me.
I did try my best to complete two or three topics today. Just tried to focus on the text while studying and eventually found I was just staring at the same line for an hour without thinking, my mind elsewhere. When the depression and memories struck, closed the door and relieved myself two or three times. Could not do anything about the crushing sensation… just sat passively and tried to tell myself, “It’s a test of your patience and love for her. As long as you work sincerely to change yourself and study, she will come back. It’s not the end.” I dunno what more I can do. It’s really painful.
I know it’s an opportunity to make myself emotionally stronger. But it’s taking a toll on m, physically and mentally. I know I deserve this pain for my misdeeds. I don’t know how to measure my progress, if I’ve become any better than I was when I did all that.
March 27, 2016 at 9:38 am #100198AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I can hardly stand reading that you are a monster and deserve your pain. I can hardly stand it anymore.
About you deserving this pain: there is a line from a movie Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood when a character just about to be shot said to Eastwood: “I don’t deserve this.” To which Eastwood replied: “Deserving got nothing to do with this”- and he shot him.
My point here is that you have pain coming to you, Ravi, whether you deserve it or not. If you were such an impossible being: a perfect human being, perfectly good at all times, 24/7, guess what? you will still have to endure misfortune, injustice, rejection… pain, be it being physically uncomfortable or emotionally/ physically uncomfortable.
No matter who you are, what you are, if you are alive, pain is coming to you. And deserving, indeed, has nothing to do with it.
So, even if Jerry contacts you today with just the right love for you, even then, you have pain coming.
There is no way around it, Ravi. You want a better life and a better experience of life, you have no other way but to endure discomfort.
What you are doing now, is in your mind, you are looking for a way out of the pain, mainly thinking: Jerry will one day be with me and then I will not have pain. But this is not true. You will still have pain, no matter what happens. No escape.
So, stay with the pain. There is no escape. Not now, not in the future. Accept it. It will feel better when you accept it. This is the only way out of it, is to let it in and not run away.
anita
March 27, 2016 at 6:46 pm #100204ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI understand where you’re coming from, Anita. It indeed is true and a very basic fact of life. Pain, both physical and emotional, are a very real fact of life and something that even the most wealthy and fortunate person on the planet cannot escape. It happens sooner or later and dealing with it is a skill. I did deal with at least some of it in the past, but I never was so overwhelmed, so depressed and almost suicidal as now. Not only is the sadness of separation and guilt overwhelming for me, but I’m supposed to study hard and clear one of the toughest exams in the country in this condition. I can hardly remember being in any harder situation.
Right now in the morning, my parents give me the fresh news that from next year, the said exam may be introducing some new rules which would make me ineligible to take it anymore. Means I have to clear it this time, or never. I’m feeling like my head might explode soon.
March 27, 2016 at 7:06 pm #100205AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
You want to clear this test. It may not be available next year. Focus on studying (I sound like your mother now, I don’t like it but I am afraid she and I are in agreement about just this thing and … only this)- got to put all aside and focus on this. Be as calm as you can and… put everything else aside. Don’t even post here unless it helps you study.
Imagine you are on a remote island and you have nothing else to do, nothing you can do but study for this exam. Give it all you got.
You may not pass this test. But give it your best!
anita
March 28, 2016 at 2:37 am #100226ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYes, it does help me study by posting here. After all I cannot bottle up my depression inside for long and I need some outlet. Otherwise I just am not in a right state of mind to study, let alone clearing a tough exam. Just today I had a test and I realized I did 20×3=80 at one place. Mistakes like this can cost a terrible price in the actual exam… and I don’t even know how to do the harder ones in this condition. Some friends recommended meditation and deep breathing, but I am not good at it. Every time I try, all the thoughts you know of buzz around in my head and I’m not able to clear them out.
In the morning I lost my temper over mom, let slip a few bad words when she began the “We’re really worried about your studies” lecture again. I feel really guilty because I had hoped after last week’s effort, I must’ve controlled my inner demons somewhat. Evidently it isn’t so. Punishing myself by avoiding snacks today.
March 28, 2016 at 4:52 am #100230AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
It occurred to me early this morning, before getting on the computer, that I automatically believed what your parents told you yesterday, knowing your mother is the dominant parent, I imagine she told you that (or told your father to tell you): “my parents give me the fresh news that from next year, the said exam may be introducing some new rules which would make me ineligible to take it anymore. Means I have to clear it this time, or never.”
You wrote that yesterday and I automatically believed this is so, as you have, right? Because we believe our mothers… no matter who they are. So I thought earlier: she has a bad record in delivering true information to you as far as the scam college, an intellectual unreliability on her part, her own misunderstanding. And then there are her values: as long as you become a doctor, nothing else matters, not even if you beat your (future) wife. She is so focused on you becoming a doctor, all means justify the end, so it fits who she is to flat out lie to you about this exam being a one time thing so to pressure you to study.
Will you CHECK this “fact” she told you for truth or lack of truth?
Since it helps you to post here, please do. I will reply to you every single time you post. I like you and am on your side, wanting and wishing you nothing but the best life that can possibly be for you, now and in the future.
anita
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