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May 29, 2016 at 12:45 pm #105917AnonymousInactive
I was quite shocked when she said it, it’s such a fast forward solution. But I guess you have to give your consent before they use this method.
I’m doing really bad. What I hate the most about the situation is that everything is so related to the past, you know? I’m watching a TV pop-quiz show and with almost every question, I’m like you should have learnt this, you should have studied better, blah blah. It’s all about the past. When I’m at my current job, it’s literally hell. I don’t know how to describe it, but I’ve been in such a passive condition my whole life, when it comes to learning and just living my life, that now when my inner wisdom, or the part of Lada that has left me few months ago is gone (the “end of your career thing”, I literally felt something dying in me, it was a warm feeling and then it suddenly went away, it was before I left for England and when I heard the sentence), it’s as if there is not much left in my brain. I can’t name just what part of me is gone, but there is no concept to my life now, no bigger picture, I’m not able to direct my life in any way. So right now I just don’t where to go, what to do, what not to do..
May 29, 2016 at 12:49 pm #105918AnonymousInactiveEverything is just really confusing. I don’t really feel anything. When I try to ignore my thoughts or just observe them, then there’s nothing left besides them.
May 29, 2016 at 12:53 pm #105919AnonymousInactiveAnd in general, my brain just doesn’t want to think. It’s like it’s not able to, as if it wasn’t developed. I used my memory a lot during my life, the bad kind of learning at school, and maybe this is the result. Remember when my mind told me I will be stupid and lazy?
May 29, 2016 at 12:59 pm #105920AnonymousInactiveWhat if my mind just doesn’t want to change its ways and that’s why it doesn’t even want me to watch television, listen to the radio,..? I had this the first time I quit school as well, I stayed away from a lot of things.. But I get the answer “what for” a lot..
May 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm #105922AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
These are my thoughts:
1) Your job at the factory: I think you should take a long leave of absence- a couple of months at the least. If that is not possible, I think you should quit. I think you should not be going there for at least two months (June and July), with the strong possibility of never.
And this is regardless of your mother’s back problems or any illness. And regardless of anything: do not go back to th factory for at least June and July of this year.
2) You wrote a few posts ago that “nothing terrible ever happened to me”- that nothing terrible happened to you to explain your distress and dysfunction. This is what I think happened to you: you suffered many thousands negative criticisms from your mother, from a very early age to the present. The last one you described was something like: Lada, you shouldn’t put vegetables on your plate like that! You should place the vegetables so that they are pleasing the eyes.
These criticisms, each by itself seems small, maybe, but the fact that there have been SO MANY, many thousands, hundreds of thousands of those oever your lifetime INJURED you. It is like getting punch in the face hundreds of thousands times, not so hard each time, but so many punches and bones break. So did your spirit, eventually, it broke.
What I mean by broke, is that your brain raised a white flag, figuratively, giving up. It stopped fighting to do things right because it figured it can’t win. It can’t get your mother’s approval- or your own (same thing since you internalized your mother). So it gave up:” what is the point?” is what your brain says. “I can’t do anything right! I am done trying!”
So that is why you feel that you are getting more and more stupid (your word)- your brain is giving up.
Therefore, I believe the plan should be to move out of your mother’s because she keeps criticizing you or she doesn’t have to: you just see her, hear her voice and you feel criticized.
I know you don’t feel ready and maybe not even willing. But I am hoping you will keep it in mind as a possibility.
What do you think (yes, i am asking your tired brain to think… I hope it is willing…)
anita
May 30, 2016 at 2:50 am #105970AnonymousInactiveGood morning, Anita. I’m afraid YOU’VE BEEN RIGHT THE WHOLE F* TIME 😀 First day at home, I cleaned the bathroom and one other room and the cleaning of the house could as well be a metaphor for decluttering me. Except that it’s not just about my mother, but my father, brother, teachers, people in the village, probably the whole world.. I realized I have been everything but myself. I just wish I did quit in March, but I heard “Yipee I can do whatever I want!”, which terrified my tied, validation-seeking self. I just don’t know what to do next, because I feel like I wasted some time, exactly three months, and the entrance exam for the English studies is in 6 days or so. I still don’t know whether I should apply or not, since I believe this situation is about something more than just studies, but I don’t know what other profession I could do in life than this.
May 30, 2016 at 3:08 am #105972AnonymousInactiveWhen I started cleaning, I heard their voices. I’m aware that it’s not all their fault and it’s okay to tell someone that they’re not doing something right (I mean the techniquie of something), but I guess I had already been from an early age so insecure that I took this personally as not being perfect or good enough. Then I wanted myself to be perfect and 100% in everything, thus not giving myself a slightest change for actual improvement. After some time of the cleaning, I felt that I was about to explode and more things came to my head, such as when I went with the trash and a truck passed me and I recalled how I used think “maybe they (the driver) know my father and if they like me, they will tell him that and he will be proud and love me too”. The same with friends of my brother,.. I’m afraid there’s a lot of fake sh*t deep down in me..
May 30, 2016 at 7:05 am #105984AnonymousInactiveFALSE ALARM once again..
first half of the day went well, then I even went to a dog shelter.. when I left the place, I suddenly heard “that’s it, you can go back, that was your 5 seconds of freedom”. At home, I felt for a while like my mum, then I noticed I spoke in a tone of my grandpa, whom I have been around quite a lot.. Now I realized that I heard the “quit both, job and school” in March only, when I kept going to work, I heard that this is “deadly” and sometime in April, after telling myself I want to die several times, I felt something strange, just like in December.. so now I’m literally nobody and fucked up..
May 30, 2016 at 7:07 am #105985AnonymousInactiveI know it sounds weird, but there hasn’t been the voice telling me to quit my job lately, I just followed what I heard in March..
May 30, 2016 at 7:08 am #105986AnonymousInactiveIt’s just that I couldn’t stand it in my job, I all the time felt as if I was supposed different by then.. I was literally going crazy, thinking about the hospitalization..
May 30, 2016 at 7:16 am #105987AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
Negative criticism is harmful, not helpful. Two examples:
1) Your mother criticizing you for not placing vegetables attractively on the plate before eating: that sends you (again) the message: Lada can’t do anything right. Is that a good message for your well being? Let’s say you re-arranged the vegetables on the plate to please your mother, what good does it do for you? Nothing. She will criticize you again for something else.
Your mental well being is what she hurts while promoting a temporary vegetable arrangement.
If it is sooo important for your mother how vegetables are arranged on a plate- she is welcome to arrange them on her plate as she wishes. Live and let live; be herself and let you be yourself and do things your way.
2) Let’s say you clean and it takes you an hour. Your mother says: Lada, you are doing it the wrong way. If you do it my way it will take you only half an hour. Now she may corect and her technique will save you half an hour. But what she is doing is again, promoting the message: Lada, you can’t do anything right.
So.. how do you spend the half an hour you saved with her technique? Deeper in distress. Time well saved?
—— It started with your mother critizing you, then you criticize yourself and there are other people too willing to join the criticism.
You are hungry for approval, for acceptance, for someone to give you a different message: “Lada, I like you. I like how you do things. You are okay. It is okay for you to be you. It is okay to do things your way. I love you.”
Your brain is tired trying to get that approval from your mother, father, strangers.
I am more than willing to give you that approval, if it could be possible in the context of this forum, whatever little bit is possible.
anita
May 30, 2016 at 7:46 am #105989AnonymousInactiveActually my mother came home today and said that I cleaned the bathroom well. I replied: “I still can’t clean the floor, there are footsteps”. Anita, it literally feels like there’s no me. Today in the city, I could feel it for a few seconds and it was lovely, but like I wrote, it all disappeared after I left the dog shelter. I think I actually am in the state when I want to critisize myself, tell everyone in advance that I’m no good and thus be anyone else but me.. I’m siting here, begging my real self to come back, but all I get is “go to work” or there’ll be even worse stage if you pretend things are okay like you did today. I’m even afraid to “think” anything because the brain is just so damn catchy to everything.
May 30, 2016 at 7:49 am #105990AnonymousInactive*”can’t” meaning “I still don’t know how to clean it so that there are no footsteps”
May 30, 2016 at 8:00 am #105993AnonymousInactiveIt sucks that my life seems to be working in metaphors.. “job” means something different, “psychiatry” as well, I don’t blame myself for not understanding the message in March.. :/
May 30, 2016 at 8:23 am #105995AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
As unsettling as your stat of mind is, it is similar to how my brain worked… or more accurately: how my brain did not work in the past. There is a way back from this confusion, distress, separation-from-oneself or this split. There is a way back. I made it back. So can you.
Only not just yet, not now. Be patient, Lada. Where you are going, it is not a one way street. Relax best you can, don’t be alarmed. It will be okay, you will see.
Like I wrote, your brain figures: what is the point? What is the point of trying, of studying (English), of trying anything? It says to you: go to the factory, you can be (almost) nothing there. Don’t think. Don’t ..
Somehow, sometime in the future, you will figure out that there is worth and value in Lada without the approval of your mother, your father and strangers. Somehow, sometime in the future, you will give up- not on your own brain, your own person- you will give up on trying to get others to approve of you. And then, you will find value in you, you will get to approve of yourself.
anita
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