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May 12, 2016 at 9:49 am #104368AnonymousInactive
I just did some yoga poses, I got up, recalled a few things from my life, then felt as if it ended, I asked and what now, I heard “devil, turning back on your family”. I just.. come on, Lada..
May 12, 2016 at 11:04 am #104371AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
I just finished reading all your posts. I didn’t read my posts to you, only yours. I will be giving you my best understanding of what is happening in you, and please read it attentively, as calmly as you can, and let me know if I understand correctly:
Your voice, the one who tells you “a billion times,” “WHAT FOR?” has a point. After all, it is wise. I didn’t understand it before. Now I know, it is, indeed your inner wisdom, as you called it and it is, indeed, your intuition.
From your very beginning, your mother was not an accepting, loving mother. She repeatedly disapproved of you, telling people what specifically she disapproved about you while you were listening. She criticized you negatively (disapproved of you, rejected you for who you were) repeatedly, directly to you and indirectly by talking about you disapprovingly to others.
For a while you looked up to your father as the “good parent”, distinguished from the bad parent, your mother. But then he left and you lost the hope of having one good parent, one loving, accepting, approving parent, that is.
Throughout your childhood, being disapproved, unloved and into your early twenties, you’ve been trying desperately to earn your mother’s love, from eating properly, not noisily, not showing your teeth when laughing to thousands of many other efforts to earn her approval and love. Five months ago you gave up. Finally, your wisdom came up with the truth: “Lada, it doesn’t matter what you do, you are not going to win. You are not going to be approved. It doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. There is no point in trying. And, Lada, your thinking is not good- it didn’t get you the approval you need, the love you need- it is no good. What is the point of thinking? What is the point of trying? There is no point.”
And this is where you are now, according to my best understanding.
In one of your last posts you wrote the voice told you:“come on Lada, you have to finally choose which way you wanna go, desperately holding on or leting go”- this is it. Your voice is indeed wise. It is indeed your intuition:
For as long as your hope for love and acceptance is in your mother giving these to you, there is no point. It doesn’t matter, truly, “which way you wanna go.”
Your voice is correct: it doesn’t matter what you think, if you think, what you do and what you don’t do- nothing matters in the quest for your mother’s approval and love.
You may not realize how desperately you have been holding on to the hope of earning your mother’s love. The thing is, you didn’t develop self acceptance. And so you are still dependent on your mother’s acceptance of you, waiting for it.
Your hope is indeed in “letting go” of that hope. The “spiritual death” you were talking about it the death of that hope. That kind of death needs to happen.
It is like trying to get water (love) out of a rock (your mother). No matter what you think and do and say and act like, you will not be able to get the water. It is not because your thinking and behavior is wrong, but because your mother is incapable of loving. And so, to get water, you have to leave the rock and look elsewhere. Then, looking elsewhere for love, your thinking and behaving will be useful.
Your thoughts? (Please do take your time, I worked hard to get this understanding and I would like you to seriously and honestly consider it).
anita
May 12, 2016 at 11:15 am #104372AnonymousGuestCorrection and elaboration: when your father left, you lost hope for his love. But you were still hoping for your mother’s love until you gave up about five months ago. Through these months you have been in limbo: in between giving up and moving on. If you complete the giving up process (giving up on trying to win your mother’s love) and move on to finding love elsewhere, another process, there is your reasonable hope, hope in what is possible.
Let go of hoping for the impossible and replace with hope for what is possible. Then move on the path of the possible.
anita
May 12, 2016 at 11:48 am #104375AnonymousInactiveYou definitely have some points, but I’m not saying that my mother is incapable of loving. I know she loves me deeply and that she will love me no matter what I do, she stands by me and supports me.
It may be true that I did lose weight because she used to tell me that I would never get rid of that “butt” if I carried on eating like that. It may be true that I tried hard to not be clumsy and stuff because she used to critise me for that. Maybe I did want to get good grades to be a good daughter. But all these things were good for me, weren’t they? It shouldn’t be such a problem that they came from a place of criticism. It’s good for you to get education, be healthy.. I’m not sure whether I should blame my fails on this. Many times she was right that I should do more chores, be more responsible, learn to cook sooner.. The lessons from her weren’t pointless.
I should think about what are all the things that I’ve been doing to get her approval. I’m just really sorry that I failed as a daughter/ a person. I had a chance to make a career, to have a promising future..
May 12, 2016 at 11:54 am #104376AnonymousInactiveI lost weight because I was unhappy about my body every day and one day I got sick of it. It’s true that I was not satisfied with my body after losing weight and looking fit, I guess the issue of self-love/hatred was deeper.
May 12, 2016 at 12:02 pm #104377AnonymousInactiveI have a similar relationship with my brother, trying to win his love. I take his criticism to heart a lot.
May 12, 2016 at 12:20 pm #104380AnonymousInactiveBut there’s one thing that confuses me.. If I was to let go of needing the approval of my mom and other people now, why was the voice promising me only horrific scenarios for my future?
May 12, 2016 at 12:35 pm #104381AnonymousInactiveOh my god the voice has been right the whole time.. It wanted me to get rid of many things, for example in my room, and now when I look at them from a different perspective, they are things that I owned because I thought I should have them.. like a couch in my bedroom, because it was cool and it gave me some kind of feeling of “power” and “having life together” when I got it here, when in reality no one ever uses it.. 😀
May 12, 2016 at 12:36 pm #104382AnonymousInactiveThen I just don’t get why the voice scares me so much!
May 12, 2016 at 7:00 pm #104406AnonymousGuestDear Lada:
Tell me about the voice, will you? Describe the quality of the voice: how does it sound like? How long have you heard it (months, years?) Does the voice comment on what you do throughout the day, ongoing commentary? Can you remember all the things the voice said in the last hour and list what it said this last hour?
anita
May 13, 2016 at 11:54 pm #104489AnonymousInactiveAh, it was just a false alarm.. I went to work on Friday and was confronted with reality. When I worked, my mind was full of moments where I was lazy in my life and didn’t want to work, it was as if there was no present time, no other choice of behaviour, all I was shown were just moments where I was lazy, complaining or stuff like that. I went to my grandpa’s to get some flowers in the afternoon and I was suddenly incredibly bitter and almost mean, even when he was trying to help me. I remember being like this inside, but I thought it was just me being not really happy when I was young, let’s say 8 or 9. Today I felt like saying “good morning” to my mother as if she was a stranger and not worth my attention. My brain is not getting any sharper either, I need to be told what to do and how. Every time I’m hopeless and think about.. you know what.. I know that I wouldn’t do this to myself, it’s more like killing some light in me.
All in all, life still sucks, what controls is me is laziness, being mean and bitter, indifferent, .. And because I’m aware of it, I once again think “oh my god, what is the point of being here” and it again doesn’t mean doing anything to myself, it’s some weird process in me.. I guess this is the change of habits and values I was “promised”.
May 13, 2016 at 11:57 pm #104490AnonymousInactiveMy mom’s birthday is in 10 days.. I will either give her the gift of getting hospitalized or.. god knows how I’m gonna change next.
May 14, 2016 at 12:55 am #104491AnonymousInactiveIt’s like “I failed at growing up, maturing, being an adult, I won’t play this game and will go back..” I’m desperate, it’s all getting more and more real..
May 14, 2016 at 1:08 am #104492AnonymousInactiveI feel like I’m trying to go on a path that doesn’t exist anymore, therefore doesn’t have a future and I’m scared a lot. I should have quit my job when I was “told to”, whatever that would have brought..
May 14, 2016 at 2:22 am #104494AnonymousInactiveThe problem is that my mum’s back is bad and she goes to work despite it. So telling her “mom, I’m quiting my job so that I can change, probably for the worse, while you’ll be suffering at work earning money so I have something to eat” is ridiculous.. But her back won’t get better anytime soon, while my mind is going crazy already..
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