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August 3, 2017 at 4:11 pm #161996ACEParticipant
Hi Anita
I’m concerned that no one is seeing my last 2 posts directly above your last one above??
My counsellor is helping me get there, we are a long way off yet though. At least I acknowledge his emotional abuse now, though thats been very difficult to come to terms with. In the beginning I thought I did or said something wrong, or didnt do or say enough. I couldnt understand it because I did everything I could for him.
Can you all see my last 2 posts? Dated 30/7 and then early today 3/8.
Thanks. Ace
August 3, 2017 at 7:51 pm #162016ElianaParticipantHi Ace,
Here is what I think may be going on, this happens in alot of relationships. I hate to do this, but I’m not going to blame him, or the relationship, but our need sometimes for instant contact made possible by social media, online dating sites, chat rooms.
I see men at work or at my volunteer job, who have beautiful girlfriends, that have so much to offer, yet the men (or women) get “bored” and look to see if the “grass is greener on the other side”. Then they start “chatting with women, it goes on for awhile but fizzles out, as relationships rarely develop or work out “online”. Then the woman (or man) think “wow, what have I done, I left this great woman for this??” and then you usually hear back from them saying “they miss you”. This has happened to me, my my friends, my married friends, co-workers and so on. I think it all amounts to boredom. Boredom not with you, but just in general. Rather than reading a book or taking on a hobby or calling a friend, what is the closest thing to them where they can have “social interaction” being anonymous behind a computer screen? Its so easy, because they don’t “have to work so hard”. The closest thing to them is a computer or a smartphone and one click, they are on internet and instant flirting and communication. I think that is what is happening. When they find out the grass is not greener, they usually come back, but often, I will not take them back because I feel texting or e-mailing us cheating, if they do it once, chances are they will do it again. Let me know your thoughts. x
August 4, 2017 at 6:19 am #162094AnonymousGuestDear Ace:
Yes, I saw yesterday your two post from July 30 and August 3, they are still there on page one. You wrote that you acknowledge emotional abuse in the relationship now when in the beginning your first thoughts were that you did or said something wrong or not enough (of the right things)-
Hope to read more from you as you proceed with counseling, your thoughts and feelings anytime.
anita
August 4, 2017 at 9:37 am #162148AmberParticipantACE:
I also came into contact with a narcissist/sociopath. I was married to him for 8 years and together for 12 years. From what I can tell you from my experience, these are very bad people who will never change and the reason for that is because they cannot change. It took me a very long time to finally realize what was happening to me and I was able to get out. I have a 4 year old son and we share custody and it has been nothing but difficult. My best advice to you: Do not contact them. They are extremely manipulative and if you were mentally abused just as I was it makes it harder. You want to believe they are good and that they didn’t mean the things they’ve done but the truth is they do. They know exactly what they are doing and the money you loaned him, I would just call that a loss. Good luck to you! Keep us posted
August 7, 2017 at 1:55 pm #162740ACEParticipantHi all
Thank you so much for continueing to comment, advise and share all your thoughts with me.
Eliana, it is possible what you say is true but knowing him the way I did I do not believe this is what happened. Not directly any way. I do think though that via the internet he was contacted by an ex girlfriend (a married one). I have no evidence to support this but a lot of things are definitely pointing in that direction.
Amber, thank you for sharing that information with me about your ex and that you got out. Well done! It certainly does make it harder to deal with the break up and realisation that it was an abusive relationship. Its by far the hardest break up Ive ever been through. Some people wouldnt understand this because why would you find it harder to be apart from your abuser? But they manipulate you to an extent where their affections become your drug. They bring you down then lift you up so high, you crave the highs. These highs release the same chemicals in your brain as a drug can. Hence you become addicted to him. I am craving those highs and wonder if they will ever stop. We have recently spoken on the phone about the money he owes but as yet I havent received any. I wont be letting it go, its too much to just let go. You were right, he did manipulate the whole call and I came off the phone feeling guilty and sorry for him 🙁 . He’s still promising to pay me…
Anita, thanks for letting me know you could see my previous posts. As I said in the last one, I am soon going to be moving to the same city as him and it petrifies me in some ways, but I know that ultimately it is going to be the right thing for me in the long term. I just have to take the plunge and the risk and go for it.
I am still seeing the counsellor. I spend most sessions in tears, it does feel like it will help me in the long run though.
Thanks all! Will keep you posted!
August 8, 2017 at 7:04 am #162814AnonymousGuestDear Ace:
I like how you phrased the analogy between the dynamic in abusive love and addiction to a drug. I like your reasoning otherwise, as expressed. Looking forward to further posts by you.
anita
August 24, 2017 at 6:24 am #165414ACEParticipantHi All
I thought it was time I came and gave you an update. I am finally getting to the anger stage and am feeling like I am finally beginning to move on from my narcissistic, abusive ex. I would be moving on much quicker if he didn’t owe me any money still. Still not had any back. We have discussed it on the phone and more recently by email and text. He is still manipulating this situation and knows exactly what to say to me to make me feel bad for him :/ How do they do that?
We are not friends on facebook any more, he deleted me before I got there first, I wanted to wait till the due date for some money; I think this is the exact reason he has deleted me though. I am glad we are no longer friends though. I have joined a gym and am meeting lots of new people, and feeling much more positive about the future. I am still seeing my counsellor because I still need to figure out why I keep choosing the wrong guys.
Thank you all for your support! It has helped immensely! I may update again soon. Thanks again!
August 24, 2017 at 7:32 am #165430AnonymousGuestDear Ace:
You are welcome. I am glad you posted an update!
You asked: “How do they do that?”, “that” being able to know “exactly what to say to me to make (you) feel bad for him”-
You are already that tendency, that … mental habit, the inclination to feel badly for a person who you otherwise think does not deserve your empathy, I am thinking. It is like a button that you have, it is right there, he pressed it before, it worked for him, so he does it again. Identify that button yourself, maybe with the help of your counsellor, and you will be able to be more aware when it is pushed and choose your response from that increased awareness.
Any ideas as to that button? Perhaps an old (untrue) belief that you are guilty/ responsible for another’s misfortune or discontent, as if you caused it, when you didn’t?
anita
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