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  • #145123
    Kate
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    I am new to this community. I hope to find some help.

    Lately I’ve felt blue, which wouldn’t be so unusual, except that I’m still pretty new to being married and my behavior may hurt my relationship and my spouse. I feel so stuck inside myself and uncertain. I forget who I am a few times a day. I want to give my spouse the best life together, but I have forgotten how to just be.

    I feel guilty all the time, though I haven’t done anything wrong. I apologize constantly even after being asked to stop. My sense of humor is slipping away, I can’t communicate even the most simple ideas effectively, and I feel lonely. Just admitting the lonely part scares me though, because I don’t want my spouse to think I don’t need/want them. My spouse is my life, but I do miss having a friend. I like having that outside perspective. I don’t talk to anyone but my spouse about things deeper than work or the weather. My spouse keeps saying that I talk things to death, that I’m obsessed with blame (as I do say “fine, this is my fault”), and has said that I start fights on purpose. I don’t want to be this person. I think having someone else to talk to would be helpful. I just don’t know what to do.

    #145163
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kate:

    You wrote that you feel guilty all the time, that you apologize constantly, even when asked to stop apologizing and your spouse says you start fights on purpose.

    Here is a possibility, let me know how correct it may be: before you met your spouse, maybe since you remember yourself, you felt guilty. But since you got married and living with your spouse day and night, in ongoing close proximity, you feel that he is thinking your are guilty. Every time there is a problem or a possible problem, you think that he is thinking it is your fault, that you are responsible. You imagine he is blaming you.

    And so, you feel attacked, day in and day out. And sometimes you fight back against the attacker.

    Only the real attacker is the voice in your head that tells you that you are guilty. And that voice is inaccurately projected into your spouse. So most if not all of the time, he is not blaming you. You only think and feel that he does.

    anita

    #145211
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Kate,

    Often when life is perfect/”perfect” we still operate as if we are in survival mode. We overthink, feel guilty, sad, lonely. Because we are not used to feeling Good. Then when we do feel good we freak out.

    Yes, you are in a good place right now. Believe it!

    I do agree that you should find at least one good girlfriend that you can have coffee with once in a while. Deep talks will probably come later. Bring up your courage and ask the most likely person you know if you want to meet at Starbucks or someplace. They will feel flattered, whether it will be a match or not!

    Best,

    Inky

    #145217
    Peter
    Participant

    I very much relate to that inner sense of…  empty… missing… something… that leaves one feeling blue and off ballance.

    Finding someone to talk, a third party that can listen to you objectively could be helpful.  Sometimes we need to hear out loud what were thinking and to have those thoughts reflected back to us by another.  Sometime friends and family are to close to us, or tied up in how they need us to be, to be helpful in this manner.  Follow you intuition.

    You might find the following book helpful: The Untethered Soul – the journey beyound yourself by Michel A. singer

     

     

    #145435
    Kate
    Participant

    Anita,

    Thank you for your response. I have talked with my spouse about blame and guilt, but she reassures me often that I’m not to blame and shouldn’t feel guilty unless I’ve actually done something. Your point about being in close proximity struck a chord with me though. We do spend every moment together, and lately I feel as though we’ve both begun to “nag” more. I know I should have a conversation with my spouse to find out why this is. It’s just difficult when I’ve been so trapped inside myself. I feel biased and perhaps a little entitled.

    I know you are absolutely right about the attacker being the voice in my head. I am trying to quell this voice and practice more self love.

    #145443
    Kate
    Participant

    Inky,

    I am doing my best to believe that I’m in a good place, but I don’t trust myself. I tend to fall inside and get stuck looking inward instead of enjoying anything. I have always felt that my timing was off with emotions. An example being where I feel blue or very sad while in a happy situation (which happened this weekend, honestly). I know that some of this is due to a lack of confidence which I am working on restoring and growing.

    As for finding someone to have coffee with occasionally– I LOVE the idea, but have no idea how to go about it. I work in a small office and see few people, most of them family. (Family is not really an option for those good talks either, as they do not agree “with my lifestyle.”) I will keep looking, but it’s like navigating a rowboat in the ocean.

    Thank you for your positive message!

    #145451
    VJ
    Participant

    Dear Kate,

    If you think you have become this type of personality (explained in below links) then you may consider trying the PINE Bach Flower remedy (also available on Amazon)

    (http://www.bachflower.org/pine.htm)
    (http://mudraguide.com/bach-flower-remedies-pine-and-self-reproach.html)

     

    Best Wishes,

    VJ

     

    #145471
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kate:

    Reads to me like you need time away from your spouse. I think it is true for every couple, needing time away from each other, to be alone or to communicate with new people, to refresh this way. Because you work in a small office with family members who disapprove of your lifestyle, you don’t have the opportunity to refresh at work.

    I don’t understand what you meant by “I feel biased and perhaps a little entitled”?

    * Your guilty feelings, are they related to your family members disapproving of your lifestyle or their disapproval of you otherwise?

    anita

    #145489
    Kate
    Participant

    Anita,

    I always felt that my time at work was supposed to count as time away from my spouse. Maybe I’ve been wrong thinking that. I don’t feel refreshed very often, that’s for sure.

    The comment about feeling biased and entitled is about my inner monologue when I am trapped in myself. I tend to have a strong split in my thinking between focusing on how awful I am and focusing on how much I feel I deserve to be pampered or given affection. Not that my spouse is not affectionate, but for all the times I apologize needlessly she seems to hold back apologies. So I feel that I either am entitled to all those apologies and affection, or I am just a horrible person and I brought everything on myself. I think this split is one of the biggest struggles that I deal with. I feel as though I’m always on one extreme or another of everything. Like being overly dramatic or just being empty, I can’t seem to find a healthy balance.

    I don’t feel that my guilty feelings are from the family being disapproving. I know that I was taught guilt as a child. My childhood was a breeding ground for low self-esteem. But their disapproval of my life doesn’t make me feel guilty so much as I feel rebellious and just a little bit sad. I never feel guilty for loving my spouse, just sad for people who choose to judge us for it.

    #145493
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kate:

    How was your childhood a “breeding ground for low self esteem”?

    anita

    #145511
    Kate
    Participant

    Anita,

    Well, I would start with being from a broken family. My parents divorced when I was about 5-6 and it was ugly. My mother then took me to the other side of the country for a trip, and I was sexually assaulted during the trip. No one talked to me about it or even acknowledged that it happened. After that, my mother cut off contact with me until I was 18. In between that time I was assaulted again by 3 people in my “family” at the time. (They were all step-family but my father is no longer married to the same woman.) The biggest incident I remember was when I was 8-9, and again– no one talked to me about what happened. No legal action was taken, so I started to think I was doing something to bring this on myself.

    During high school I had insomnia and couldn’t sleep on a regular schedule. My parents (meaning my father and his current wife) would just get mad at me for being late. I never got help. I also never had a serious conversation about depression or sexuality. I nearly killed myself in our kitchen after an altercation with my step-mother while my father was out of state. I watched my step-brother deal drugs and overdose on meth nearly dying, but again no one explained it to me. My step-sister was promiscuous and nearly “threw me to the wolves” one night when one of her boyfriends friends started to ask if I was “experienced.” I feel I never really had a lot of support, even though I was practically screaming for it. I passed all my classes and even played sports, but I was still ignored while my step-siblings where held on a pedestal. I would be teased, reprimanded for reading “too much,” and even for getting sick. Though I know my father loves me, he was never very good at showing it. Or standing up for me or my dreams.

    I feel like I may have rambled, but that is most of what I can remember.

    #145519
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kate:

    What a sad childhood, what a distressing childhood. I feel sad reading your account.

    In your original post you wrote: “I feel guilty all the time, though I haven’t done anything wrong”- even though in your relationship with your spouse you haven’t done anything wrong, just like you haven’t done anything wrong as a child. But it is in the nature of a child to feel guilty, that is, responsible for negative events. When step family members sexually assaulted you and no  one talked to you about it (to explain to you that you were not responsible for those and to comfort you, to protect you from further assaults and to punish the offenders), you automatically took the blame.

    When your mother cut contact with you- you took the blame for that too. When you suffered the consequences of your abuse and neglect, one of which was insomnia- and were disapproved for it- you felt guilty for that too, as well as the teasing and so many other things.

    There started the pattern of blaming yourself for all that you were blameless.

    If it is okay with you to answer more of my questions, please do:

    You wrote that you work with family- what family members are those (what is their part in your history as a child)?

    Why did your mother cut contact with you for so long and what is your current relationship with her… and with your father? Previous step family?

    anita

     

    #145539
    Kate
    Participant

    I have no problem answer questions.

    I work with my father. I would say that our relationship is fairly distant, but we do love each other. He keeps excessively busy, so seeing him out of work is not that likely (unless I want to drive 7 hours for a camping trip.) He doesn’t talk too much as is, but I think we get along most of the time. He has a bad habit of speaking condescendingly, so as long as that doesn’t happen we can talk okay.

    As for my mother, I sent her a single reply when she contacted me at 18. I told her she’d have to work at a relationship with me after being gone for so long. She never said anything back. It was more dejecting than I thought it would be, honestly. I grew up knowing that she made the decision to leave me, so I had resented her a bit. Yet I felt so sad that she would just turn away from me again.

    Previous step family I have almost zero contact, except with one person who I also work with. It’s incredibly hard when he mentions his cousin who assaulted me. I want to be physically sick when it happens. My father has never stopped him from mentioning my attacker. I’ve never spoken up either though.

    #145547
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kate:

    Does your step family member who mentions the cousin sometimes know that the cousin sexually assaulted you? Does your father who hears the cousin mentioned, does he know that the cousin attacked you?

    If the answer to either or both is Yes, then your abuse is STILL being ignored, and so, it goes on in a way. When people who were present in your life at the time the assault/s happened ignored it then, and continue to ignore it, to treat it as if it is a matter of no importance, they send you the message that your experience is not valid, that nothing of importance happened.

    When the attacker is mentioned and you feel sick, do you say anything to them, or did you ever?

    anita

     

    #145555
    Kate
    Participant

    Anita,

    I do not say anything when it’s mentioned. I keep my head down and try to look busy. I think this cousin must know, as the whole family seemed to hear of it. So much that our “NEW” family that my father is married to now even knew of what happened to me.

    My father definitely knows what happened with the cousin (who was my step-brother at the time) I have had one talk with my father about the whole situation. We had  along road trip so I finally asked: “why didn’t you say anything or do anything when it happened?” I was about 18 by this time. His answer was fairly heartbreaking, I think. He explained that he didn’t know what to do because not only had he failed at protecting me, he failed at trying to help my attacker make better decisions. He was my step-brother at the time, so my father had been trying to be a positive role model.

    I don’t know if all of this is a part of (or the whole reason) that I feel so imbalanced and lost. I felt like I had dealt with it all and made peace about a year ago.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 8 months ago by Kate.
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