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  • #138937
    Meg
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    I’m not afraid of him physically but maybe afraid that he will make my life miserable for leaving

    #138941
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    In your post before last you wrote: “I feel confident about divorcing him when I’m not near him,

    but then when he is around, I again start to feel hopeful and doubt my decision to leave”-

    You asked for advice for dealing with this struggle, so I am trying to understand the struggle better: when you feel hope, when he is around what thoughts and feelings are in that HOPE that you feel?  (are there … loving feelings, attachment feelings in that hope…)?

    anita

    #138947
    Meg
    Participant

    I think when I’m around him I see glimmers of positive things and hold onto them, like if he is being attentive or takes time to play with the kids. I care for him and don’t wish anything bad on him, but I’m not sure I love him anymore. I definitely don’t feel the same way about him that I used to. I’m sure some of it is attachment. We have been together since I was 19 (now 30), so I have never really been an adult without him.

    #138957
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    You wrote that you “have never really been an adult without him” –

    A child is naturally attached to her parent, even if it is an abusive parent (often even more so). A child needs the parent for safety, as do other mammals: we are born needing the parent. When a parent is abusive, we hold on to any and every positive behavior on the part of the parent as “proof” that we are in good hands, with a person who can and will take good care of us.

    You wrote that you “see glimmers of positive things and hold onto them”- like a child. Lots of people don’t mature in the following way no matter how old: they do not see the object of attachment (parent, husband) as she/he is. They do sometimes but then dismiss what they saw and see only a little bit of the picture, a corner of it, and ignore the rest. Not holding on to the whole picture for long, a person remains confused.

    You painted a clear picture of your husband on this thread. I can see him. Problem is, when he is around, you dismiss that picture and you hover over a little brush of color here, there, isolated little areas of color, glitter.

    anita

     

    #139307
    Meg
    Participant

    Dear Anita, that makes so much sense when described that way. He is still away for work, but I am trying to think through what I want to say to him when he returns. Of course the unknown scares me, but thinking about a free and joyful future makes me feel excited. Thank you so much.

    #139313
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    You are welcome. You wrote that you are “trying to think through what (you) want to say to him when he returns”- I think what you say to him when he returns doesn’t matter, outside your feelings. In other words, whatever it is that you will say to him will not fix the relationship. The relationship dynamics are set in stone, at this point. No magic wording can dissolve that cement.

    Do you think that there is something you can say to him that he will NOT dismiss? Anything you say to him that he will not point to as “your fault! your problem!” or otherwise dismissed, ignored?

    anita

    #139627
    Meg
    Participant

    Great point. You’re right, nothing I say will fix anything. I’m not sure there is anything I can say that he wouldn’t dismiss. Maybe I could frame what I say around being fair to him, like it not being fair to him to waste his time with me when I am fully invested in the marriage any more.

    #139653
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear meg:

    You want to tell him that it is not fair to him to waste his time with you when you are NOT fully invested in the marriage anymore, correct?

    I don’t think he is an innocent child in this marriage. His behavior indicates that he is beyond caring for what is fair or not in HIS own behavior. And he is beyond caring for the quality of the marriage.

    Again, does it matter what you say? Or is it that you might as well just move your lips without a sound, or mumble incomprehensible sounds, same affect?

    anita

     

    #139687
    Meg
    Participant

    Yes, I meant NOT invested. Sorry for the typo. It probably doesn’t even matter what I say. He’s going to play the victim and act like I didn’t give him enough chances no matter what.

    #139707
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    Reads to me that it doesn’t matter what you say, doesn’t matter for the purpose of honest communication, that is. If you tell him you are leaving him (again), he may beg you to stay (again), but there will not be a change, only the same-old-same-old.

     

    #142589
    Meg
    Participant

    Just wanted to give an update. You were right, Anita. It didn’t matter what I said to him. He played the victim and accused me of giving up too soon, even though I have been trying to fix our marriage for YEARS. We went to see a counselor yesterday, and even in front of her, he was abusive and manipulative. I could see in her eyes that she felt pity for me and completely grasped where I stood. I have asked him to move out of our house, which will happen this weekend. I am taking my power back, and I have never felt better! I am truly excited for the future and to be free to be my true self.

    #142601
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    Thank you for the update. I am excited for you! You are doing the right thing for yourself, as long as you know that at times, you will feel weak. At times you will doubt yourself. At times you will be very tired and very tempted to keep going with the same-old-same-old.

    At those times, feel free to come back to your thread, and when I am at the computer, and I see you posted, I will reply to you first.

    When you do doubt yourself again (and it will happen), you don’t have to reverse all the way back to paralysis. Make a note to your “Doubting Self” to be read at those times, tell yourself to not engage in that doubt- acknowledge it and disengage.

    Do be true to yourself, to your desire to matter in your own life.

    anita

     

     

    #143529
    Meg
    Participant

    Thank you for the encouraging words, once again. Currently, I am in this tornado of back and forth with him. He is accusing me of seeing someone else and giving up too easily. I have said “I’m done” at least 100 times, but he will NOT accept it. I’m losing my mind here. I’m seeing a divorce lawyer tomorrow morning, so hopefully the official paperwork will bring him to reality. This is the most frustrating thing ever. I have been very clear, but he keeps demanding that we can work through this. 🙁

    #143537
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    When you told him “I’m done!”- one time should have been enough for you to have stated it. After all, you didn’t ask him: “Are we done?”, you stated it. It is not up for him to accept or reject.

    “He keeps demanding”-

    Don’t be meek. It is tough, but use this experience to assert yourself, not to ask for his permission, wait for his approval and cooperation. He doesn’t ask for your permission, he is demanding. Don’t submit.

    Post anytime. I am concerned and want to read that you are strong and doing what is right for you!

    anita

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