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  • #136635
    Meg
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    I felt certain that my marriage was over for a while, and then my husband begged for another chance. I have given a chance, but I feel guarded after years of him shutting me out and being verbally abusive. It seems like every time I open up a little and start to have hope again, he shows me how self-centered and emotionally unavailable he is or makes an abusive remark. He promised to pick our daughter up from school one day last week and bring her to eat lunch with me at work, but then he FORGOT to pick her up and had already gone to lunch with one of his buddies from work. When I got mad and tried to talk to him about it, he just made excuses that he can’t keep track of time and he was busy doing something else. I had to travel 250 miles and back yesterday to take our other daughter to see a specialist and found out she has to have surgery next month. My nerves and stress got the best of me, and I got sick and almost missed our flight home. It was a long and exhausting day, and he got mad when I went straight to bed because my stomach was churning and I was completely exhausted from traveling all day with a 2 year old. I asked him what’s wrong this morning and got nothing. He is obviously mad but won’t talk to me, like usual. He will just wait until something comes up in conversation and make a stab about whatever it was that made him angry. He leaves today for work to be gone for a few weeks, and I just feel relieved. Things are so much more calm and joyful when he is not around. I feel like I should just be done with this emotional roller coaster, but I feel like a failure for not being able to make my marriage work and for not being able to have a happy family.

    #137001
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    When he begged for another chance, you should have conditioned the chance you gave him on going to competent couple counseling. Maybe you can still make this a condition. In couple counseling he will be taught to not be aggressive with you (those abusive remarks, stabs, the silent treatment). Of course, therapy will not cure unwillingness to learn and change.

    What are you going to do next, since he didn’t take advantage of the second chance you gave him?

    anita

    #137077
    Meg
    Participant

    Thanks for your response, Anita. So I actually begged him to go to counseling with me a few years ago, and he told me I needed to go on my own to fix myself since I was the one with all the issues. I believed him and stared going alone, and the better I feel about my own mental state, the worse I feel about my marriage. I definitely should have pressed the issue more before giving another chance. When I told him I couldn’t do this anymore, he said he would go to counseling with me even though he thinks it’s lame. But he told me to set it up, but it had to be after his work day and he couldn’t guarantee he would be there. Maybe I should set up a session for when he gets back from the work trip and make it non-negotiable?

    #137565
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    Reads to me that this marriage is hopeless. It cannot be fixed for as long as he points the finger at you as the guilty one, the one with the issues. For as long as he is not willing to take responsibility for his behavior, for his (great) contribution to the troubles in the marriage- there is no hope. It will not matter if he finds the time to attend a counseling session, he is most very likely to be unwilling there to take any responsibility. He may even pretend to go-along and lie to the therapist, saying “the right” things, meaning none of them, and that will infuriate you, wouldn’t it?

    From your description, he is a cold hearted man, not a loving man, and he is one of the many people whose stubborn MO is to point the finger at another: YOUR fault, your problem and none of my doing.

    anita

    #138303
    Meg
    Participant

    Dear Anita, thank you again for your reply. I am afraid you are right about him pretending to go along and say the right things to a therapist as well because that’s exactly what he does when we have serious talks about things. He promises to change, is a little better for a while until I’m comfortable again, and then it’s right back to the old way. For example, I talked to him about balancing time for family with playing video games, and he just stopped playing completely for a week or so. Then one day, he verbally pointed out that if he was going to stay downstairs with me that I needed to come sit with him since I told him he couldn’t play games anymore. I never said that. I know it is a fun way for him to relieve stress, but I am not okay with my daughters (or me) being ignored because of a video game. I am huge on family time and value it above everything else. As soon as I told him that I never said he couldn’t play at all, he was right back on the computer playing again that night while I bathed the girls and tucked them in for bed. I’m tired of feeling like I have to fight for his attention. I have tried to be the best wife I can be, but it’s just not worth it anymore.

    #138489
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    Re-reading a bit from your original post, you wrote there that he is verbally abusive- how is he verbally abusive, what does he say to you, does he raise his voice, is it in front of your children? Is he verbally abusive to them directly?

    anita

    #138557
    Meg
    Participant

    So maybe emotionally abusive is more accurate. He as been verbally abusive (name calling and such) before but during a terrible argument. He does use a harsh tone much of the time with the kids and me, and just tells me to get over it. That’s just how he talks to everyone. What gets me the most is feeling dismissed and diminished about my feelings, opinions, and dreams. It’s always about him and when I push for something I want, he finds a way to make me feel guilty. I have a masters degree and never planned to stay home full time, but he has insisted on it and made me feel like a terrible mom for choosing to work. I have spent our entire marriage supporting him and building him up to create a great career for himself. I don’t get that in return. When I try to discuss my feelings or needs, I’m told I am too sensitive or too needy. So then I just feel like I should keep everything to myself. I don’t know if it is technically abuse, but it doesn’t feel good. I never want to open up to him anymore because I don’t want to be criticized or have him steal the joy from something good.

    #138569
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    What are the pros and cons regarding divorcing him?

    anita

    #138579
    Meg
    Participant

    Pros: freedom to be myself, no more walking on eggshells, opportunity for more self growth, being able to focus on my dreams/goals

    Cons: feeling of failure, dealing with family reactions will be hard, don’t want to hurt him, not being there to be a buffer when he loses his temper with the girls

    I just want to be happy and fulfilled. I’m not worried about doing everything alone because I already do most everything alone. If I am going to be married, I want my husband to be a true partner, support me emotionally, and to make me feel like I matter.

    #138581
    Meg
    Participant

    Are my expectations unrealistic?

    #138797
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    No, I don’t think your expectations are unrealistic. This is what I think having re-read your original and later posts on this thread: this marriage is unhealthy for you. It works against your well being, and so, it works against your daughters’ well being because they need a healthy mother. Being “a buffer when he loses his temper with the girls” is not a good reason to stay in the marriage because they still suffer from his expressions of anger. Buffering doesn’t protect them. The threat of his anger, the initial expressions of it are damaging enough.

    Without his present, when he left for days/ weeks for work, you “just feel relieved” and “Things are so much more calm and joyful when he is not around.” This is strong evidence as to why it is a good idea to separate from him- at least when the girls are with you, in a separate household, they will be safe from his anger and they will have a calmer mother.

    You wrongly believe that you are responsible for the failure of the marriage even though you are the one who suggested couple counseling as well as multiple suggestions to make the marriage work.

    You also wrongly believe that the failure of the marriage will take place when you divorce while the truth is that the marriage is already a failure and has been a failure for years. Divorce will end a marriage that has failed- in spite of your best efforts- for years.

    A wrong strategy on your part- which has kept you stuck in indecision for so long- is that you doubt your own thinking, feelings and experiences and give way more weight to his thinking than to your own. He begs- you retreat and reconsider. He promises- you retreat and wait, once again (maybe this time…) You keep having faith in him, keep believing him although he doesn’t deserve your faith.

    I think he knows he has the power in the marriage and can easily cause you to change your decisions.

    His position is that if you have a problem, you are the cause, not him. And you often enough believe him. In your effort to not have a failed marriage (which it is already), you sacrificed your trust in your own understanding, you believe him, doubting yourself.

    You wrote: “the better I feel about my own mental state, the worse I feel about my marriage”- this is because the better your mental health, the better you see what is in front of you, the reality of your marriage- it already failed.

    You wrote: “I have tried to be the best wife I can be, but it’s not worth it anymore”- accept that it wasn’t worth it for years, that you wasted time (as so many people do), and wasting more time is not going to undo time already wasted, it is just going to add to the waste.

    You wrote that what gets you the most “is feeling dismissed and diminished about your feelings, opinions and dreams”- as long as you stay with him, you are cooperating with your own dismissal.

    You wrote: “If I am going to be married, I want my husband to be a true partner, support me emotionally, and to make me feel like I matter.”-  I don’t think this is going to happen with THIS husband, no matter how many more years you try (and waste). If this is the kind of husband you need and want- a future husband, maybe, not this one.

    This husband is too busy pointing the finger of responsibility at you, keeping you powerless and confused in the marriage.

    anita

    #138907
    Meg
    Participant

    Anita, I am in tears reading your response because I know it is true. I am amazed that you figured all that out from my random rambling, especially because my thoughts are all over the place. I have taken responsibility for so much that has gone wrong, and I am working really hard not to do that anymore. Not everything is my fault, so all I can do is own my role in the relationship. I wish things were different, but it is what it is. I doubt myself constantly, which frustrates me even more.

    #138909
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    You wrote above that you started going to individual therapy, are you still going?

    Your ongoing self doubt is the problem. I do vote for the pros you listed for divorce: Freedom to be yourself, no longer walking on egg shells, no longer imprisoned by self doubt and an unjustified  sense of guilt. He encourages your imprisonment. I do wish you set yourself free (He won’t!)

    Post again, anytime.

    anita

    #138919
    Meg
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I haven’t been for a couple of months since my work schedule has been hectic, but I’m hoping to get back soon. I miss going. It really helps. I feel confident about divorcing him when I’m not near him, but then when he is around, I again start to feel hopeful and doubt my decision to leave. Is that normal? Any advice for dealing with that struggle?

    #138923
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Meg:

    I don’t know about normal, but common, yes, and part of the human experience.

    When you are not near him you are confident about divorcing him, but when you are near him, you feel hopeful and doubt your decision to divorce him.

    Maybe you are afraid of him, are you? Afraid to leave him?

    anita

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