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  • #171673
    N
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    know there’s only so much advice you could give but…

    I’m having some birthday anxiety. I’ll be 25 in the next couple weeks and I feel like I’m not where I want to be, especially romantically. I knew I would be panicked over my birthday but it’s made worse by the fact that I’ve just been “old maided” meaning now every friend I can name is officially in a relationship. Thinking about it I usually say I’ve just been single for some years but really looking back I’ve never had an actual sincere relationship. It just occurred to me recently but the short lived relationships I was in they were dating me in theory: they either didn’t take me seriously or they were incredibly disrespecting of the fact I was their ‘girlfriend.’ Everything I try and do since then to start a relationship (online dating, going out, being more present) is just a dead end. I feel like I have leprosy and no one told me.
    Ive always admired my parents and I just so happened to grow up on Disney movies, so marriage and children was something I knew I wanted since I was in college. And it’s not like I have nothing going for me, I’m graduating again next summer and I’ll soon be moving out of my folks house by then. But no matter how much I try not thinking about it, it somehow rears it’s ugly head that I have no one I could love on. And as you can imagine it especially makes things harder when the hormones kick up if you know what I mean. Then there’s the fact that being so single I’m not sure if I could even date. It’s not that I’m so selfish I wouldn’t know how to incorporate someone into my life, it’s just when you’ve done something so long and you’re good at it and you get set in your ways, changing them so late in the game seems terrifying. And in learning not to get my hopes up I worry I won’t ever feel any strong connection to anyone that way.
    I just feel so low. The one friend I could tell anything was the last one. Her relationship just started so I’m trying to back off and wait to hear from her when she needs me. But I’ve got no friends who’ve been solo as long as I have so I feel like I can’t even talk to anyone. I just feel like I’d just bring them down. But its starting to get painful. I have hobbies and distractions, but even they know they have to admit there’s nothing like having a someone

    #171709
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear N:

    You wrote: ” when you’ve done something so long and you’re good at it and you get set in your ways, changing them so late in the game seems terrifying”- so that I understand your situation better, I ask:

    What are those ways you think you will need to change if in a relationship? And what is it that terrifies you about changing them?

    anita

    #171729
    N
    Participant

    I’ve never been in an honest relationship before. So I’m not used to being completely open to anyone or reliant on anyone, which some have told me makes me seem standoffish, insincere and cynical. Plus intimacy is something I’ve never had to deal with, even in terms of just personal space

    #171733
    N
    Participant

    Plus I’ve become a bit disenchanted with people. My standards are too high or something. My friend gushed about her first date to me and I’ve never done that. Last time I did was probably high school. So I don’t know if i could even regain that excitement beyond ‘ah, they’re okay.’

    #171745
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear N:

    You wrote: “I’m not used to being completely open to anyone or reliant on anyone”- not completely open or reliant on past boyfriends? Past and present friends? Parents?

    In my efforts to understand, I also ask: what have you always admired about your parents?

    anita

     

    #171769
    N
    Participant

    I’ll try and explain as well as I can. I have a tendency to stay in my own head when something upsets me or stresses me out. It’s been years but there was a time where my friends sort of blew off how I was feeling, so I’ve been keeping to myself a lot. I’m vastly more sensitive than my friends know. I try to keep open to one of them but that fear of being annoying still stands, and now that she has a boyfriend I’d rather not say anything since that’s one of my laments, so I haven’t spoken to her and probably won’t unless she needs me or wants to talk to me. Either way I just recently try to handle things on my own and just keep to myself about what I’m thinking

    #171771
    N
    Participant

    About my parents, they got married when they were 25, on a whim even. They married after some months of knowing each other and they’re still together. They disagree on things of course but I think they just like each other. My dad used to tell me it wasn’t the fact he loved her that made him marry her so fast, but the fact that he just liked her. They were friends and they knew of all the things in the world that could be against them so to speak, they knew they’d always be for each other. Well they had kids in their 30s, now they’re on the downhill to 60, and on top of that my mom has had cancer for about three years now. So in addition to just wanting someone I could be with, I also want a family of my own and for my parents have enough time to be part of it. Which just adds even more stress

    #171889
    Anonymous
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    Dear N:

    Somewhere along the way you learned that your thoughts and feelings are unacceptable, annoying is your word. So you hide those and so, you are unable to engage in intimate, sincere relationships.

    You wrote that your father said he married your mother because he liked her, that is, he found her acceptable, found her thoughts and feelings acceptable, letting her express those freely, making a sincere and intimate relationship possible. Am I correct?

    In the relationship between your mother and you; between your father and you, did either one reject your thoughts and feelings, express such … dislike?

    anita

    #171935
    N
    Participant

    My dad and I are great. He’s always told me I could tell him anything. There’s still some worries I don’t talk about just because I don’t want him to think about it (like worries over him and my moms health) but otherwise I love talking to him. My moms okay to talk to but she’s always taken the ‘just don’t worry about it/just be happy/stop being sad’ approach. So even though I can talk to her about what I’m thinking it’s usually pretty short. My mom and I are a whole other can of worms

    #172093
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear N:

    That “whole other can of worms” in the relationship with your mother can very well explain your current difficulties with intimate relationships. The “stop being sad” message, for one, is rejecting your sadness, your feelings. The “just don’t worry about it/just be happy” message is: don’t bother me. I am busy … with more important things, isn’t it?

    Your father told you that you can talk to him about anything: did you talk to him about your mother’s rejection and inattentiveness to you?

    anita

    #172095
    N
    Participant

    Hmm… it’s possible

    I’ve told my dad about my mom before and that I feel like she doesn’t really listen to me. But neither of us really know why that is or how to fix it. She’s gotten to be a bit more overbearing but in the sense that she doesn’t so much talk to us but rather just tells us what to do. She’s interrupted and changed the subject but part of me thinks she’s not being malicious, she just won’t focus on what she’s thinking about. And I try not to think of it too much because even my dads started to be like that. He’ll definitely listen but instead of recognizing there’s something that upsets me they just wonder ‘why focus on it when there’s so much else you can be thankful for?’ It’s helped a little bit but it’s just not that easy

    #172101
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear N:

    It doesn’t matter really, if your mother is malicious or not. Cruelty by ignorance or cruelty by intent, by malice, is still cruelty. It hurts either way to be rejected, ignored, and so forth.

    What you write is that both your mother and your father express their attitude that you shouldn’t focus on the rejection you experienced, on what troubles you, and instead be thankful. Perhaps both will be a good policy: be thankful for what you have and attend to your distress. Both.

    Maybe a quality psychotherapist can help you, really listen to you, express to you that your feelings matter, that they are important; help you see yourself through the eyes of … someone who does see you…?

    anita

    #172107
    N
    Participant

    That’s fair. I always thought the two were mutually exclusive. Like I could like the fact that I’m where I am but still want for company and be sad and concerned about other goals that aren’t being met. I’ve been told this before that I should talk to an actual therapist, but as my folks don’t believe in them (my dad isn’t necessarily on the side of ‘psychobabble’) and the access to one is a bit difficult because I still live at home trying to pay for school has always made it hard to follow through.

    By the way, I really appreciate you listening and talking with me. It’s really helpful

    #172137
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear N:

    You are welcome.

    You wrote: “my dad isn’t necessarily on the side of ‘psychobabble’” – Neither am I on the side of psychobabble. Psychotherapy with a .. psycho-babbling therapist is not what I am suggesting.

    You wrote in an earlier post: “I’ve never been in an honest relationship before. So I’m not used to being completely open to anyone or reliant on anyone”

    The psychotherapy I am suggesting is about the therapist being honest with you, so that you will be having your first honest relationship, a relationship in which, for the first time, you will be completely open to someone and reliant on, that is, trusting that someone, for the first time, to not hurt you when you are honest and completely open.

    I am sure you feel that you can trust your parents in some regards and that you appreciate greatly every expression of affection they displayed toward you or every single thing they did for you. Unfortunately, they did hurt you when you were honest and completely open, and this is why you keep to yourself, stay in your own head, and you “seem standoffish, insincere and cynical”.

    There is a whole other you waiting to come to the surface- an honest, sincere, open, loving woman. She’s been there all along, waiting. I hope you post again.

    anita

    #172153
    N
    Participant

    I see, and I agree with that. Then I guess it really is looking into. I’ll look into it and see what I can find out. Thank you!

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