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October 19, 2016 at 12:54 pm #118506CherylParticipant
I have written before but at an earlier stage in the break up .
5 yrs ago I met a guy who I ended up marrying 2-1/2 yrs ago. He was besotted with me to the point I felt smothered sometimes , we had a good relationship and had a strong attraction to each other .
Around 7 months ago, he started spending time on his own, going out if I came in and eventually he said he wanted to leave .
At first I was angry and couldn’t understand why , his reasons were that he wanted his own finNces back, he felt trapped , I was too emotional and he wanted to get to know him etc etc
This was all a bit of a shock and for me and for the last month I’ve been suffering depression and low self esteem , my anxiety has increased and I feel like a zombie just going through the motions
I loved my husband but I feel totally and utter bewildered he’d been so unhappy
He is very immature and I never felt safe with him, his relationships with past partners didnt work out either.
How can someone change so quickly? He says he enjoying his life and being on his own although I wouldn’t put it past him dating again
He says I’m the most attractive woman he’s ever met and he thinks I’m a lovely person
I’m so down , I’m trying to put look to the future , I’ve had to sell the house, buy another one but feel a total failure as a wife . I know deep down he has issues but it doesn’t stop me hurting
I am seeing a counsellor specifically for anxiety but has anyone been through this ,please tell me this gets better
He has been pretty cruel but the anger no longer spurns me on , I’m just left with grief and bewildermentOctober 20, 2016 at 4:49 am #118533SinpaParticipantDear Cheryl,
As I understood, you were good at jour relationship, ans as he said you are a lovely person.
I can imagine how hurting what you re going through might be…still, I like to believe that un this life, when you do your best into something you need to get satisfied with all kinds of results, ’cause, look, we do not control nothing in life except ourselves, and even though something hurts us we need to try to focus on ourselves, what did we learnt? What can make me a better person for myself ans for the world?…
I wish you get better soon
Sincerly.October 20, 2016 at 9:58 am #118549AnonymousGuestDear Cheryl:
I just re-read all your posts in your first thread where you asked how to let go. Obviously you haven’t yet. If you think that further insight into the relationship you had with him may help you to let go, to come to peace about it (and to determine the nature of present and future communication with him, if any)- I may be able to help you with it. If you are willing, will you consider answering the following:
1. You wrote above: “He was besotted with me to the point I felt smothered sometimes”- how was he bestowed and how did he pressure you into marriage (from the previous thread/ posts)?
2. You wrote before that the relationship with him became destructive. How?
3. You wrote that he told you that he wished you were more simple, as if (you wrote) he suggested that you were too complicated. What does too-complicated mean and what would simple mean?
anita
October 20, 2016 at 10:46 am #118558CherylParticipantHi Anita
Course I’ll answer the questions
When I said besotted, he was extremely affectionate, he would contact me all the time telling me he loved me , he used to joke he was obsessed with me . Ring all the time etc , he was quite jealous also
2: I’m not sure why I put distructive but it became different , he became more distant which caused lots of arguments
3: I had a low stage last year and suffered really bad anxiety , relating to my daughter leaving home , he found my mood swings due to this hard to deal with . I did seek help but instead of helping me , he started to like me less
in an argument he preferred someone less emotional and ” simple”October 20, 2016 at 10:51 am #118559AnonymousGuestDear Cheryl:
I need to know more in effort to understand better. When you became very anxious (relating to your daughter leaving home), experiencing mood swings: can you give me examples (with some detail) of how that looked like, how that anxiety and mood swings were communicated to him?
anita
October 20, 2016 at 10:58 am #118560CherylParticipantI would become irritable with him , I used to explain how I was feeling and that this wasn’t me, it was a feeling that had taken over my life , I used to get irritable with my children too , but even my 17 yrs old was more supportive and has never judged me once .
I always apologisedOctober 20, 2016 at 11:11 am #118562AnonymousGuestDear Cheryl:
The reason I asked for details in my last post is that there is great significance in detail. For example, you wrote above that you became irritable with him and with your children. Here is where details make a big difference:
if “irritable” means your face registered irritation and that is all, it is one thing. If “irritable” means you kept criticizing him all day long, micro-managing him: you shouldn’t have done this! You should have done that! How could you?! You left soap on the dishes; how many times did I ask you to rinse them well? And so on and on, much of the day-
well, that would be different than just an irritable expression on your face.
anita
October 23, 2016 at 8:41 am #118744CherylParticipantHi Anita , I’m not sure where this is leading if I’m honest I moaned at him like most couples , he’d wipe his toothbrush on the face towel that sort of thing , I wasn’t perfect by any means and by the way I saw him a few weeks ago and apologised for any part I played in him Leaving .
He said he didn’t feel loved , and took my behaviour i.e. If I refused sex, as rejection
He went to counselling sessions and told me he’d never got to know himself .
My ex was obsessed my money and told me he wNted his finances back so he could Live his life before he gets too old
He subsequently sent me a spread sheet ( loved his spread sheets) on his last payments before the house is sold, even after I said I love him and let’s just have some space
I feel like he is deleting every memory of me , and is so cold
I just replied ok to the spreadsheet and his follow up was ” your not angry are you ? “I’ve not replied
As you see , with my original question , is this normal for me to feel totally devastated whilst he’s just excited to have adventures ?October 23, 2016 at 9:15 am #118746PeterParticipantI cannot speak to your past relationship and why it didn’t progress as you hoped and dreamed.
I feel that there is a time to work out what happened in past relationships however there is a danger if the focus gets stuck on who did what to who and maybe if only I did this or didn’t do that.
This type of focus tends to keep us stuck in the past of pain, blame, negative self talk and hurt.
I do not mean to downplay the hurt and betrayal you have experienced, however if I’m reading your story correctly the marriage relationship is over and so what matters now is you and who you are and who you hope to become.
When the time is right and perhaps some distance created so that you might better be able to see an honest evaluation of your past experiences and how they impacted you will help you move forward… just be careful of getting suck replaying the past.
When the Past Is Present; Healing the Emotional Wounds That Sabotage Our Relationships – David Richo
A touching fact about us is that we seem hard-wired to replay the past, especially when it includes emotional pain or disappointment. We tend to go through life simply casting new people in the roles of key people, such as our parents or past partners with whom there is still unfinished business. This phenomenon, called transference, is unconscious. What we transfer are feelings, needs, expectations, defenses, fantasies, beliefs, and attitudes. Transference can be our way of telling the untold story inside us. We can learn to notice clues about how our past is still very much alive in our present relationships. In this book, we also find practices to help us clear up our old business and form healthy relationships that no longer have to replicate the past. Then authentic intimacy can bloom.
October 23, 2016 at 10:04 am #118749AnonymousGuestDear Cheryl:
Your question to me is: ” is this normal for me to feel totally devastated whilst he’s just excited to have adventures ?” My answer: yes, it is. I interpret “normal” here as understandable, something I can understand, make sense of. So, yes, it is understandable to me that you feel totally devastated while he is excited.
Going back to your original post on this thread, you wrote: “Around 7 months ago, he started spending time on his own, going out if I came in and eventually he said he wanted to leave…he felt trapped.”
What this means to me is that in the relationship with you he experienced distress. Naturally, people don’t like distress and turn away from it, as he has done by leaving the relationship with you.
You wrote: “At first I was angry and couldn’t understand why…This was all a bit of a shock and for me…. I feel totally and utter bewildered he’d been so unhappy.”
What this means to me is that you were so invested in your own distress while married to him that you didn’t notice his distress. Maybe he didn’t communicate it to you. Maybe he never complained, didn’t show signs of distress. Maybe he did and you didn’t notice.
This is why it is important for a couple to communicate regularly, to give each other feedback about each others’ behavior and what can be done to decrease distress in a relationship.
Back to your question: yes, it is understandable to me that you are devastated (you were distressed while in relationship with him AND presently) and he is “excited to have adventures” (he was distressed while in relationship with you but is not distressed presently).
I came up with the above answer looking at the basics of your situation, not looking into guilt, as in: who is responsible for whose distress. It is not about that, this is why you apologizing to him did not fix any problem. It is about distress/ lack of distress and preferring the latter.
anita
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